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$2500 5090 I’m out

///AMG said:
I didnt pay attention. I just looked at the charts, haven't had to deal with coil whine in a while. Multi Frame Gen is pretty good if the base frame rate is high enough, I like it and will probably play my single-player cinematic games (which is what I play most of the time) with it on. I was not sold on it but it's pretty good. Guess its time to get a 4k 240 monitor.
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How is the coil whine for you? I’m seeing more and more threads and videos complaining about it. Maybe it’s a first run issue?

Depending on what you are coming from yes it may be a time for a new monitor. Personally I’d look at a 1440p 360-480 hz OLED depending on what games you play.
 
Dreamerbydesign said:
How is the coil whine for you? I’m seeing more and more threads and videos complaining about it. Maybe it’s a first run issue?

Depending on what you are coming from yes it may be a time for a new monitor. Personally I’d look at a 1440p 360-480 hz OLED depending on what games you play.
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Its noticeable especially because I had a MSI 4090 Liquid Suprim. I'll monitor it and check back in with you guys. I've been running a LG CX 48 Oled for a bit over 4 years, looking to get a new 4k 240hz OLED now.
 
///AMG said:
Its noticeable especially because I had a MSI 4090 Liquid Suprim. I'll monitor it and check back in with you guys. I've been running a LG CX 48 Oled for a bit over 4 years, looking to get a new 4k 240hz OLED now.
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Awesome thanks for the feedback. That 4090 suprim is a top notch card.

I just got my first oled, you really can’t go wrong with one.
 
kalston said:
I saw, and I am absolutely stocked!
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are they holding any features back for the 5000 series?
 
I had 5 friends/family tying to get one on my behalf while I was on a plane and unable to connect to wifi on launch time. None were able to get one, sad times. I have this new PC built just sitting here without a decent card to use it with.
 
pendragon1 said:
everything keeps going up yet they keep plastering "new/every day low price" all over... its infuriating.
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But but but inflation is down around 2% again..and the canadian economy is up 1.4%!!!. if you dont look at the other 20% inflation since like 2018 it went up :D and the fact no stores are adjusting their prices back down ...

Don't you love our country :D
 
Thank you ///AMG for your valuable input here on the 5090 FE. In regards to coil whine and my 4090 FE, I do not have an issue running 4k @ 144FPS. However, when I tried out a 240Hz OLED monitor and that framerate jumped, my card did whine and it was noticeable. My bright QD-OLED TV is simply the superior display for gaming, so I returned the monitor.

Do you notice the whine at a framerate less than or equal to 144?

edit: I see you are running a LG CX. This is a bit concerning. Thank you again for your report as I will now try for something other than the Founders. Keeping the 4090 is also looking more and more attractive especially with the recently improved DLSS performance.
 
There is only one thing to do. Check if a 1200-1600 watts PSU removes the whine. Not sure what PSU are you running right now AMG.
 
I managed to snag a 5090FE. But to be honest, I'm regretting this card. I have a CPU tower and the blowthrough design absolutely wrecks my CPU temps. There's also noticeably more coil whine. I'm starting to regret selling my 4090FE at this point. Dunno how nvidia went from the brilliance of the 4090FE to this...
 
hhkb said:
I managed to snag a 5090FE. But to be honest, I'm regretting this card. I have a CPU tower and the blowthrough design absolutely wrecks my CPU temps. There's also noticeably more coil whine. I'm starting to regret selling my 4090FE at this point. Dunno how nvidia went from the brilliance of the 4090FE to this...
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And there it is, the unfortunate but predictable reality of Nvidia's two-slot card. My FOMO had me in line for one of these on BB's site and now I'm happy to have missed out. Looks like it's AIB or bust for this round.

This is why this forum is invaluable. We will never get the truth from YouTubers and "influencers" who receive free products.
 
I'm kind of shocked this wasn't covered much by any reviewer. The rear FE fan is literally flush against the NVME heatsink of my mobo and 2cm away from the CPU tower. So how am I supposed to keep this cool? Lol.

I agree AIB is the way to go this generation, but will cost a lot more.

I'm thinking about how I can solve it right now. I'm going to try adding a rear intake directly on my CPU tower and see if I can at least get the temps down a bit. Alternatively I may just give up on the tower and go with an AIO. Or try to snag an AIB over the next couple months and fund it by selling the FE.
 
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hhkb said:
I managed to snag a 5090FE. But to be honest, I'm regretting this card. I have a CPU tower and the blowthrough design absolutely wrecks my CPU temps. There's also noticeably more coil whine. I'm starting to regret selling my 4090FE at this point. Dunno how nvidia went from the brilliance of the 4090FE to this...
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I'd suggest moving to an aio cooler with a front mounted radiator, so the CPU is cooled first. With Nvidia's new design, you can't rely on cooling happening at the socket area anymore.
 
Yes, I think aio cooler is the only option for the FE this generation unfortunately. I don't get why nvidia went with this design. I guess to make it 2 slot? But couldn't they have at least modified the fins to blow outwards?
 
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And there it is, the unfortunate but predictable reality of Nvidia's two-slot card. My FOMO had me in line for one of these on BB's site and now I'm happy to have missed out. Looks like it's AIB or bust for this round.

This is why this forum is invaluable. We will never get the truth from YouTubers and "influencers" who receive free products.
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Most are likely using an open test bench with the best AIO around to remove any possibilities of throttling during testing. I don’t think anyone intentionally hid this phenomenon. In fact, most every reviewer has stated how disappointed they are with the 50 series launch.
 
hhkb said:
Yes, I think aio cooler is the only option for the FE this generation unfortunately. I don't get why nvidia went with this design. I guess to make it 2 slot? But couldn't they have at least modified the fins to blow outwards?
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If you watch GNs video with the dude from Nvidia who designed the cooler, they go into all those details. Basically the flow through design was a must for adequate cooling using a 2 fan/2 slot card. Changing direction of the air outwards causes pressure and reduces efficiency
 
WilyKit said:
Most are likely using an open test bench with the best AIO around to remove any possibilities of throttling during testing. I don’t think anyone intentionally hid this phenomenon. In fact, most every reviewer has stated how disappointed they are with the 50 series launch.
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All solid points. Some did note the coil whine and the heat is going to be a problem in a closed case with any air cooler. You're right about general 50-series sentiment. I still think they're inclined to hold back on being particularly critical of this generation's FE; they understandably want to secure more review units in the future. Linus was gushing over the thing at CES. Admittedly while standing in the same room with a team of Nvidia employees who granted him exclusive access. I don't have beef with YouTubers, I get this is their livelihood, but that's also the point. I don't judge the cards until I read what [H] bros have to say after spending their own hard-earned cash.
 
I ordered a liquid freezer 3 AIO which arrives tomorrow, and I'll swap my tower for that. I'm expecting a large improvement. Ah well - back to the AIO world :D. I'd say 5090FE is a no-go for CPU towers.
 
hhkb said:
I ordered a liquid freezer 3 AIO which arrives tomorrow, and I'll swap my tower for that. I'm expecting a large improvement. Ah well - back to the AIO world :D. I'd say 5090FE is a no-go for CPU towers.
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Then you can expect something like this, techpowerup has the same AIO for their setup, FE GPU temperatures are still not great, CPU temp is probably ok.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-founders-edition/7.html
They use this case.
https://www.darkflash.com/product/dy470

And another of their conclusions:
"While I'd like to applaud NVIDIA for being brave enough to make their flagship a dual-slot card, I think the vast majority of the market would have been better served with a larger volume design similar to the RTX 4090. We have several custom design reviews of the RTX 5090 coming up, some with massive coolers, which should end up achieving lower noise levels than the FE.

In case you're worried about maintenance—after taking all the PCB photos I reassembled the card, using classic thermal paste, and temperatures went only up by 2°C, which is nothing."

It turns out that it would have been better if they had gone with a massive cooler, this way they forced the few users who are on air coolers to switch to AIO. Or sell the FE 5090 GPU.
 
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Then you can expect something like this, techpowerup has the same AIO for their setup, FE GPU temperatures are still not great, CPU temp is probably ok.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-founders-edition/7.html
They use this case.
https://www.darkflash.com/product/dy470

And another of their conclusions:
"While I'd like to applaud NVIDIA for being brave enough to make their flagship a dual-slot card, I think the vast majority of the market would have been better served with a larger volume design similar to the RTX 4090. We have several custom design reviews of the RTX 5090 coming up, some with massive coolers, which should end up achieving lower noise levels than the FE.

In case you're worried about maintenance—after taking all the PCB photos I reassembled the card, using classic thermal paste, and temperatures went only up by 2°C, which is nothing."

It turns out that it would have been better if they had gone with a massive cooler, this way they forced the few users who are on air coolers to switch to AIO. Or sell the FE 5090 GPU.
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I'm pretty happy with the GPU temps when applying a power limit. At 75% power limit (420W power draw), GPU temp never goes above 70C and fan at 40%. Losing ~5-10% performance to shave 150W is okay with me for now. I ran my 4090FE at 80% power limit similarly and got a similar 70C @ 40%.

For me it's mostly the fact it dumps all the heat into the case that's the flaw in the design.
 
hhkb said:
I'm pretty happy with the GPU temps when applying a power limit. At 75% power limit (420W power draw), GPU temp never goes above 70C and fan at 40%. Losing ~5-10% performance to shave 150W is okay with me for now. I ran my 4090FE at 80% power limit similarly and got a similar 70C @ 40%.

For me it's mostly the fact it dumps all the heat into the case that's the flaw in the design.
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Yes, it's very difficult to match everything, for that FE gpu, a case that has fans on the bottom and additional ones on the top is probably the best fit. I probably wouldn't be happy with that FE, they obviously wanted to save as much as possible on the cooler. When you look at that RTX 4090FE, it's huge, but it still takes up space that you might need on your mbo for something else. It all depends on what you want or need.

Does anyone know how many RTX 5090 FE cards they plan to make? Or are they just cards for reviewers and the few who manage to buy them when they release?
 
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hhkb said:
I'm pretty happy with the GPU temps when applying a power limit. At 75% power limit (420W power draw), GPU temp never goes above 70C and fan at 40%. Losing ~5-10% performance to shave 150W is okay with me for now. I ran my 4090FE at 80% power limit similarly and got a similar 70C @ 40%.

For me it's mostly the fact it dumps all the heat into the case that's the flaw in the design.
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The only time GPUs don't dump a full load of heat in a case is AIO or blower design. Almost all GPUs dump their heat in the case. This is nothing new.
 
DooKey said:
The only time GPUs don't dump a full load of heat in a case is AIO or blower design. Almost all GPUs dump their heat in the case. This is nothing new.
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I'm a fan of the blower, the one with one fan, maybe it will come back again with a new generation.
I had this XFX rx 480, it's a shame I sold it, I had that card among the first in the world, I know I bought it practically as soon as they arrived(and as soon as they are officially announced by AMD) and came to me in the mail the next day I guess.
There were no reviews on the internet either.Great gpu.
 

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Yes, it's very difficult to match everything, for that FE gpu, a case that has fans on the bottom and additional ones on the top is probably the best fit. I probably wouldn't be happy with that FE, they obviously wanted to save as much as possible on the cooler. When you look at that RTX 4090FE, it's huge, but it still takes up space that you might need on your mbo for something else. It all depends on what you want or need.

Does anyone know how many RTX 5090 FE cards they plan to make? Or are they just cards for reviewers and the few who manage to buy them when they release?
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A 2 slot 2 fan design that cools as well as a 3x3 and nearly as well as a 4x3 is hardly a cost saving measure.
 
hhkb said:
I managed to snag a 5090FE. But to be honest, I'm regretting this card. I have a CPU tower and the blowthrough design absolutely wrecks my CPU temps. There's also noticeably more coil whine. I'm starting to regret selling my 4090FE at this point. Dunno how nvidia went from the brilliance of the 4090FE to this...
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Also my concern. What kind of CPU cooling and case?
 
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I'd suggest moving to an aio cooler with a front mounted radiator, so the CPU is cooled first. With Nvidia's new design, you can't rely on cooling happening at the socket area anymore.
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Wouldn’t that starve the GPU of fresh air?
 
I've been playing with it a bunch and got it in a "good for now" state. I have a rear intake now on the CPU tower and removed the +200Mhz PBO boost I had (just leaving PBO -35). My temps are down to 75-80C after that (they were hitting 95C before). I also bumped the 5090 up to 80% PL without it affecting the temps much. So it seems air cooling is doable if you tweak things and don't mind undervolting/power limiting. You have to do something to counteract the increased CPU temp.

I still have the AIO coming though. I'm gonna test this out for a while and see if I still think it's worth the swap.
 
Blackstone said:
Also my concern. What kind of CPU cooling and case?
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I'm running this all in an Ncase M2. Yes so small case. YMMV on larger cases, although my case temps don't get high, just CPU temp.

DooKey said:
The only time GPUs don't dump a full load of heat in a case is AIO or blower design. Almost all GPUs dump their heat in the case. This is nothing new.
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I was thinking of the 4090FE which has the rear blower design. Although in my case since the sides are fully vented, an AIB would also just blow outside the sides of the case. Only blow through design forces all air into the case.
 
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