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    Microsoft to Remove Full ReFS Support from Windows 10 Pro

    Coming 2018 - Microsoft removes NTFS from Windows 10 Pro, drives will automatically be converted to FAT32.
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    The Top 5 Worst CPUs of All Time @ [H]

    On a technical level, Netburst as an architecture was one giant misstep. However Intel were able to use their lead over AMD in manufacturing technology to compensate for the architectural shortcomings and remain fairly competitive in terms of the actual end products. It was really only when...
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    Some Ryzen Linux Users Are Facing Issues With Heavy Compilation Loads

    Yep data corruption is more likely to result in totally random changes, probably including illegal characters causing even more problems. Also data within the files would change, probably making them unreadable. I agree keeping silent has potentially caused more problems for AMD than if they...
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    Some Ryzen Linux Users Are Facing Issues With Heavy Compilation Loads

    Yeah I don't want to go through the trouble and then end up with another dud. I'll wait a little bit for things to clarify (will be away for 1 week anyway...). They say "early" Ryzen CPUs might have this problem, and I got mine one day after release so it seems very likely it has this fault. My...
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    Some Ryzen Linux Users Are Facing Issues With Heavy Compilation Loads

    Looks like AMD are telling people who have this problem to RMA the CPU. So it's essentially a silent recall. Wondering whether I should send back my CPU - I want a fully working one, but being without a CPU for weeks kind of sucks and the problem doesn't really affect me at all.
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    AMD Threadripper Socket TR4 Up Close and Personal

    How come Skylake X only has 2066 pins? It also has quad-channel memory support and up to 18 cores. It has slightly fewer PCI-E lanes but could that account for a difference of nearly 2000 pins?
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    Ryzen with DDR4 4266?

    I think someone managed to get ~4000 MHz RAM working by disabling all except 1 core and running the CPU at ~800 MHz.
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    AMD Ryzen Threadripper Unboxing and Install

    It seems if you're ever going to remove a Threadripper CPU, you're better off not even trying to replace the protective cover. However I do wonder if it's possible to damage the pins by just taking off the cover too? It seems to be the least thought out part of the design, and it's the part...
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    Intel Says AMD EPYC Processors "Glued-together" in Official Slide Deck

    So how do you suggest they increase the core count in a post Moore's Law world? We'll probably get 7nm, maybe even 5nm, but after that, it's a dead end. Making the chip bigger and bigger will lead to lower yields and unmanageable thermals. Already, processors spend a huge amount of their power...
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    Ryzen Owners Thread

    Congrats on the new build! Might want to put in a better video card there eventually if you do any gaming but for non-graphics workstation tasks it doesn't really matter. The 805 BIOS seems very stable and works well for a lot of people even with Hynix memory. Dunno whether Asus will bring...
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    Supposedly AGESA 1.0.0.7 is already in beta, but I'm guessing it will be a while before motherboard manufacturers begin to push it. They're probably busy with X299 and X399 at the moment.
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    I don't think we'll see higher speeds than what can be achieved currently. That would require a new revision of Ryzen, with the Infinity Fabric clock de-coupled from the RAM clock, or support for higher Infinity Fabric clock speeds. When running DDR4 at 4000 MT/s, your're overclocking the IF by...
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    Some Ryzen Linux Users Are Facing Issues With Heavy Compilation Loads

    I don't see what the big deal is. IF there's a problem, it will get fixed. Bugs and problems are found all the time, both in hardware and software. A new driver, UEFI/AGESA update or similar and the problem is gone. I doubt it's so serious that AMD will have to recall every Ryzen sold so far.
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    Well I already went to 1.15V which is 0.05V over the max recommended for 24/7 use. I could try 2T command rate I guess, but that would just increase the latency even more compared to 3200 C14 1T. Anyway I'm guessing 3200 C14 is more or less just as fast as 3333 C16 because of the lower latency...
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    Ryzen price cuts already.

    That survey also shows the NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 gaining the most market share this month, while cards that are still being sold, like the 1070, lost some. Anyway I think it's pretty obvious Ryzen won't make a huge difference to AMD's total market share just yet. All current CPUs are more or...
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    Ryzen price cuts already.

    I know this is HardOCP, but there are many reasons for not wanting to overclock. Also, the 1800X reaches higher OC frequencies on average than the 1700 and even 1700X so for people looking for the maximum amount of performance it's still the best. I overclocked the crap out of my old 4770K...
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    Well I'm back to 3200 C14. It's really odd how it behaves at anything above this speed. For example, at 3333 C14, it can run Memtest86+ for at least a couple of hours (until I got bored and canceled it), but it would fail AIDA64 "Stress system memory" after anything from 8 minutes to 1 hour. So...
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    Well the dividers are there for 4000 MHz. Doesn't mean it will actually work :p Even on Broadwell-E, with quad-channel , getting 4000 MHz out of the memory is a challenge Good, low latency 3200 MHz memory is still the sweet spot for price/performance as higher speeds require more expensive...
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    Ryzen price cuts already.

    I agree the 1800X and 1700X were priced too high in the beginning (but I like my e-peen and not having to faff around with p-states to get an efficient overclock), which is being adjusted now, as they received the highest price cuts. Either sales aren't meeting their sales projections, or...
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    Ryzen price cuts already.

    Lower prices obviously mean they want to sell more CPUs, but it doesn't mean sales were poor in the first place. Companies are always looking to increase sales, and the good yields have allowed AMD to do this while maintaining good profit margins. The lower prices are a clear sign that yields...
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    Ryzen price cuts already.

    Actually it's because the yields are so good (over 80% for 8-core) that AMD want to get more people to buy the 8-core parts instead of having to sell them fully functional 8-core die with 2 cores disabled at lower profit margins.
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    There's an unofficial beta BIOS 801 with AGESA 1.0.0.6 for the Prime X370: https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f219/asus-prime-x370-pro-am4-1156996.html#7.0 Works fine for me and I haven't heard of any brickings or other serious problems, but you obviously use this at your own risk.
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    Tried the new AGESA 1.0.0.6 for the Prime X370. Unfortunately it seems 3333 C14 1T is the best I can do with my 3600 RAM and that required pumping 1.4V into the RAM and 1.1V into the SOC. I haven't had time to run a proper multi-hour memtest yet so I don't even know if that's going to be 100%...
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    Strange Ryzen behavior with Nvidia vs Amd

    Keep in mind that you need to enable Core Parking for boost to work properly. If you used the standard Balanced plan initially and then switched to the AMD Ryzen Balanced plan, that would explain why boost is lower, since the Ryzen plan disables core parking. You can re-enable core parking with...
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    First full work day on Ryzen, have some questions

    I agree it seems like a weird issue and it seems far more likely to be a driver/USB/chipset/mouse issue than some voltage or timing or temperature or whatever. It seems crazy to suspect temperatures for an issue like this. Of course Ryzen is powerful enough to move a mouse cursor smoothly...
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    It could be that AMD have gone out with common recommendations for all mobo manufacturers, which is why the behavior is similar across different boards, maybe? It's definitely still the same 1.0.0.4 AGESA code from what I can tell. Anyway I'm happy with the changes too. Having the RAM randomly...
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    With the new 0612 BIOS for the Prime X370 I can now run my LPX 3600 at 3200 MHz @ C14 (previously C16) without cold boot problems. It's still AGESA 1.0.0.4. When the new AGESA comes out for this board, I'll try to run the RAM at its rated 3600 MHz.
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    Is this proof NVIDIA drivers are holding back GPU on Ryzen?

    Well they still want to sell GeForce cards to Ryzen owners...
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    Asus Prime X370 new BIOS 0612 is out, still AGESA 1.0.0.4. -I can now cold boot at 3200 C14 (previously only 3200 C16). If I do a complete cold boot (cutting power to the system for a minute), it still power cycles itself 3 times on the first boot, but it no longer reverts to 2133 MHz RAM or...
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    Is this proof NVIDIA drivers are holding back GPU on Ryzen?

    It's proof Nvidia is holding back Ryzen in Rocket League.
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    Is Ryzen stable?

    The only problem with Ryzen is RAM compatibility. As long as you get RAM that's proven to work at higher speeds, it's rock solid. I haven't experienced any BSODs, freezes etc. since after I dialed in the appropriate RAM settings for my board+RAM combo. If you go with some generic, cheap RAM...
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    Well it does seem like more modules are getting listed at 3200. G.SKILL F4-4000C19D-16GTZSW GALAXY HOF4CALCS3600K17LD162C CORSAIR CMK16GX4M2B3600C18 16GB G.SKILL F4-3300C16Q-16GRKD 16GB G.SKILL F4-4133C19D-16GTZKW Before the last two updates, there were only 2, the Corsair 3600's and GALAXY...
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    Many are likely increasing SOC voltage more than what is necessary. I know some boards even boost it to 1.1V automatically when you run factory overclocked memory. I only had to increase it by 0.02V to get my RAM stable at 3200.
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    The Prime X370 QVL was also updated on the 15th. Can't really tell what has changed. There are still a lot of 3000 - 3200 MHz kits that are only listed at 2133 MHz :( http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X370-PRO/PRIME_X370-PRO_Memory_QVL_2017051511.pdf
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    DRAM Boot Voltage is still buggy on Ryzen. Hopefully the next AGESA update will improve it. For example, on "Auto" it's meant to track the DRAM voltage, but it always defaults to 1.2V. Wouldn't surprise me if it isn't reliable when set manually, either. At least you C6H master race overlords...
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    Ryzen CPU Temps

    That's actually CPU package power in Watts, so that should be around 100 - 110W when running these stress tests. Here's what it looks like on my system: Running Aida64 with all options checked doesn't produce the highest temps, but it does stress every component, making it hard to pinpoint...
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    My Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600 (B-die) works at 3200, but only at C16. At C14 I get the cold boot issues, but if I manage to get it to boot (by repeatedly saving and applying the settings), it's rock solid in Windows at C14. I'm pretty sure having the option of booting the RAM at 1.35V instead of...
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    Post your Ryzen memory speeds!

    I found this pretty interesting: http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/9700#post_26020881 For users of the C6H, make sure you also increase the DRAM Boot Voltage when you increase the DRAM voltage. DRAM Boot Voltage is supposed to track the DRAM voltage (why...
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    BIOS updates for AM4 motherboards

    I've never been able to run my RAM at 3200 C14 due to cold boot issues. Quite happy with 3200 C16 to be honest. The new AGESA code significantly reduced latency anyway so performance @ C16 is probably better now than it would have been at C14 with the old BIOS/AGESA.
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    Bit of a Rant about Ryzen & AMD

    Users of several different boards, from different manufacturers, reported not being able to attain as high RAM speeds after flashing the BIOS containing AGESA 1.0.0.4a, so that seems like a trend. A few also reported achieving higher speeds than before. Clearly, RAM support is a complicated...
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