Apologies, should've also added my results. I'm using an i7-12700K with an Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 280mm AIO with Arctic's MX-5 paste:
Test: Cinebench R23 multi-core 10-minute stress test
Ambient: 25C
PL1 = PL2 = 4096W (actual: ~175W to ~180W)
Multi-core Enhancement On
72C core average...
The inventor / discoverer, Buildzoid, claims it's only needed with flat cold plates. Asetek (and others) usually make convex cold plates to alleviate this issue.
1T does work on DDR5. Like DDR4, though, it depends heavily on the kit + mobo + IMC.
It’s the Gear 2 that’s less negotiable, but with such a high frequency, the total latency (via AIDA64) penalty isn’t as damaging vs DDR4 in Gear 2.
That was my suspicion, too. The Z690-I doesn't seem to have a beta yet.
I'm a tad wary to tweak too much as seems like things are still settling in. Maybe they'll diverge the D4 vs D5 branches?
IIRC, all Intel CPUs go a bit concave after installing them (due to the mount only pressing on 2 of the 4 IHS sides), except the HEDT ones, no? Which then pushed some cooler companies to make their cold plates convex, to better match an "installed-Intel-CPU" profile.
Buildzoid, who originally...
This update (1003) also came for my Z690-I with the same changelog: luckily, worked without issue and didn't need to re-tweak anything, though this is a DDR5 board. Using "XMP I" timings with G.SKILL 2x16GB DDR5-6000 / 36-36-36-75 1.3V, at 2T. I heard some people had DDR5 issues that 1003 seemed...
Gigabyte (finally) confirmed this WHEA bug in mid-January, but only in a tiny thread: it should be acknowledged publicly. I've not seen any new updates since. :(
Gigabyte claimed it was related to the mini-ITX size (??) even though other ATX motherboards like the ASUS Z690-A and ASUS Z690...
Nice fix and thank you for documenting the process. That'll be really helpful for future readers.
To add another data point, as we have similar setups (i7-12700K / ROG STRIX Z690-I / Meshlicious dual-mesh / Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 280mm). With 25C ambient and PL1 = PL2 = 4096W but...
As someone who recently switched to a DDR5 build (on a tiny DDR5 sale), you are not missing anything, IMHO. DDR5 still has its teething pains. I got lucky (DDR5 is best w/ two-slot motherboards, e.g., mini-ITX) that everything worked out of the box like a charm for me (XMP, reboot, done), but...
Update: I'm using the ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-I (what a mouthful) with the Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 280 in a Meshlicious build, with Arctic's official LGA1700 bracket. The only AIO pump block orientation that fit with the NVMe / PCH heatsink installed seems to be with the pump block fan on...
Yep: I thought, "A high caliber outfit like EKWB must've tested it already. Surely they noticed how close the tubes were to the RAM." Sigh, if this AIO then doesn't jive with the G.SKILL DIMMs, that'll be a speedy return: the holidays have ended, so Amazon's return policies are back to normal...
I've appreciated all your updates here: this looks like the best DDR4 mini-ITX motherboard for Alder Lake. Still waiting a re-stock here in the US.
Interestingly, EK just this week told me their AIO pump block did fit on the Gigabyte Z690I Aorus Ultra board. Maybe it's RAM-dependent? I have...
They don't say, unfortunately. But, it's pretty clear pattern.
Look at the average FPS on that review to gauge it a bit better what the overall performance is. But, unequivocally, Windows 8.1 has significant benefits.
Well, I got bored and compiled the data from Hardware Pal's similar review, seen here. I appreciate Hard|OCP's testing, but they missed a big point by leaving out the CPU. If you play on any settings that really stress out your CPU, Windows 8.1 has ENORMOUS benefits for Battlefield 4...
Regarding Kepler and DX11.1, NVIDIA had this to say:
So, it has DX11.1 for basically any purpose Hard|OCP is concerned about--I think.
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So, I'm curious why you guys chose a pure GPU test....A Frostbite 3 developer stated this on Reddit:
So, it also has CPU benefits. Another site...
For those who want to whet their appetite on the Win 7 vs Win 8.1 discussion:
http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/
Windows 8.1 seems to have big benefits.
Oh, right! I remember those cards. You plugged them into a PCI-E slot and they had a couple DDR slots for RAM. With DDR3 prices this low, you'd think that would be moving somewhere.
I think it was RAM density that slowed them down, though. You only get 4 DDR slots on a card; filling that with...
@PNTL and Magnus
"This question isn't to buy parts or anything (haha); this is just a general question on the state of technology..."
@Forceman
Well, I thought the same thing. I looked up some RAM disks, however, and they were on-par or only slightly faster than SSDs. But, your point is...
It used to be the hard drive, but with the advent of SSDs, what is now the slowest part of the computer?
I mean, for regular computing (what 95% of the world does with its computers: cue in Office, Firefox, watching a movie), what's holding them back? Why are instant-on computers still far...
lol, sorry, Kyle. I usually sign all my posts on my forums, except here I've learned of the new rules. Sorry, a bit rusty: need some more practice.
~Ibrahim~
I add another. :) I mean, three out of the five games you tested were playable at 2560x1600; Crysis and Far Cry 2 the only exceptions. And even then FC2 was at 1920x1200 with 4XAA and the highest in-game settings.
I can see an overvolt being likely; even with its new cooler, the temperatures were within a few degrees from the stock cooler. It's good that it's quiet, though.
Typo Fixt - Kyle
Not a bad card. I wish you guys might throw in a GTX 285 in there. I've had conflicting information whether the...
Yeah....ever since I upgraded from 2GB->4GB, I've found that I can minimize BF2 and actually do something with my computer! :eek:
It's nice. Sometimes I regret not getting 8GB, but then I remember that I don't have that much money, lol, seeing as my mobo doesn't like 4 sticks.
~Ibrahim~
Nah, if it's a rule, I'll abide by it. Now, I'm not trying to cause an issue, but my rules list stops at 23. This is what I'm looking at.
Wait, wait, never mind. It has its own section; in the actual forums. This list above needs to be updated!
I'll change it now; I don't care that much. :)
I'm sorry...didn't think it was that big of an issue. Since there isn't a system specifications section, I put them in the signature area and sign with my name on each post. If you really do mind, I can insert my name in my signature, as well. I mean, it is the same information, but just above...
Yeah...it kind of blows. I have to use the 32-bit Sidebar to get Pandora and a few other Flash stuff working.
Yeah. Sorry, didn't mean it to sound so bluntly: "Not true". That actually sounds a bit like a d-bag sort of thing when I read it now. Unusually, I get system updates a bit earlier...