pendragon1
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why is the "world's leading tech association" opposing the right to repair?! i feel like tossing my cert. also surprised there isnt a thread going about this...
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I know absolutely nothing about who COMPTIA are or what they do, but if they are opposing the right to repair they can go burn in hell.
I know absolutely nothing about who COMPTIA are or what they do, but if they are opposing the right to repair they can go burn in hell.
only an inch of growth?you get certified and your penis grows an inch. certification is one of those meaningless things that people put in their resumes instead of work experience. and yeah, I was certified. lol
They also changed their certification process where you have to give them money every two years to keep your certs up.
you get certified and your penis grows an inch. certification is one of those meaningless things that people put in their resumes instead of work experience. and yeah, I was certified. lol
They're the people behind the A+ hardware, software, and networking certifications. Among other IT related certs.
No, it is slowly becoming a thing that more places require, and eventually I suspect IT will be a licensed profession that will need it. I mean you wouldn't go to a doctor that wasn't certified and accredited, you wouldn't fly on a plane with a pilot that wasn't certified, heck you wouldn't hire a plumber that wasn't licensed, which requires certification. Kind of strange that we'd then let someone work on your computers who isn't. Right now, there's no industry wide requirement, of course, but it is slowly starting. If you want to work in any DoD position that deals with cybersecurity, which includes things like sys-admins, managers, etc, you must have and appropriate DoD 8570 Baseline Certification. You either have to have it to get the job, or have to get it within 6 months of getting hired and you have to keep it current. They are also pushing that out to contractors as well, so if you work for a company that contracts for many kinds of federal jobs, you'll have the same requirement. Likewise things like NIST 800-171 can push that all the way down to subcontractors.
You can scoff if you like, but it is the reality of the situation. Likewise there is some utility in certs. They don't tell the whole story, I mean what they ultimately mean is someone was able to pass a test. But work experience doesn't either. All that says is that you were able to not be fired for a given amount of time and that doesn't necessarily mean you were any good, it may just mean you were in tight with management, as we've seen in cases like the Equifax CISO. So certs are a way of evaluating that not only has someone had a job, but they at least know enough to be able to pass a test on knowledge in a given area. That's still no guarantee they don't suck, nothing is, but it helps.
The fact we need laws like this is sad and shows how stupid people are. If a company starts making it hard to fix things ideally people would just go buy another company products... sadly no one cares if that new iPhone cant be fix and they keep buying them and now you can't find a phone that has an easy to swap battery ect.
Required certs are just a way to build a moat around an industry to entrench certain interests (professional associations and large industry providers, mostly). If you don't want to hire someone with a certification...don't. No need for it to be required by law.
Required certs are just a way to build a moat around an industry to entrench certain interests (professional associations and large industry providers, mostly). If you don't want to hire someone with a certification...don't. No need for it to be required by law.
Understand I'm saying what is happening, regardless of if you like it or not. The DoD standards are a thing and they apply to a lot of jobs, government and private sector. That is how these things start.
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That is part of the reason for having requirements for professions is they don't just require a minimum level of training, but they also require things like minimum levels of insurance so that when harm happens, it can be paid for. This isn't just a consumer protection thing, it isn't just the guy who hired someone that can be harmed, it can be others. The pilot example is extreme on purpose but it given an example of why licensing and certification are a thing.
All of that is a reason for licensing to exist, but not a reason to require it.
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1" length, 4" girthonly an inch of growth?
it was still on the new test i took last year. there was more obsolete shit than current.Louis makes a good point about CompTia A+ tests about 1min30 in. He mentions Firewire being on the A+ test a few years ago which I noticed then and even before with even older stuff like ISA slots. I remember seeing some of the same old outdated questions on tech in 2005 that were still in the 2015 manuals. It was more a history course on PC tech in some ways.
iPhones honestly aren't that hard to repair, as long as you take your time. Parts are also pretty readily available. It's a lot more of an issue with Apple's computers and their security chip. Not to mention the shit companies like John Deere do to prevent repairs.
you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. older models maybe, EOL models no. schematics are not available at all, common parts have small changes to make similar versions incompatible and so forth. this also applies if you join the apple repair program. only some things you can gain access to.
the "source" for parts is... you can't buy anything new you have to buy junked boards and hope you can get working parts off of them. the list goes on and on and on. watch some of the rossman videos, he covers all this.
apple has complained that they lose money from making repairs. why? they have the most expensive rates compared to anyone else. reason... because they make more selling replacements instead.
How about a radical idea of a free market? Let the market decide not to do business with uninsured companies and better competition to take over? Or just require an insurance certificate that you get for free once you have one, not some BS piece of paper from parasitic companies that certify this and that with their useless courses and unneeded fees?But if it isn't required... then we are back to my "what happens when a shady company does something" scenario? Do we just say "Well that sucks, but too bad for you, shady companies get to do what they want and if they cause you harm doing it, too bad"? See when licensing is required, then if a company uses unlicensed people and doesn't meet the licensing requirements for things like insurance, they can be shut down, and even criminally charged. However if it is all optional, then you can't. Then if they do shady shit, well too bad, that's life. Maybe you are ok with that, but think it through.
Required certs are just a way to build a moat around an industry to entrench certain interests (professional associations and large industry providers, mostly). If you don't want to hire someone with a certification...don't. No need for it to be required by law.
umm no. You don't have to in most cases.BUT... you HAVE to have comptia A+, Net+, and Security+. to even step on to even an entry level government job. so as far as our government is concerned it is law. (unfortunate b.s.)
But if it isn't required... then we are back to my "what happens when a shady company does something" scenario? Do we just say "Well that sucks, but too bad for you, shady companies get to do what they want and if they cause you harm doing it, too bad"? See when licensing is required, then if a company uses unlicensed people and doesn't meet the licensing requirements for things like insurance, they can be shut down, and even criminally charged. However if it is all optional, then you can't. Then if they do shady shit, well too bad, that's life. Maybe you are ok with that, but think it through.
Considering that the A+ is or at least was when I took the test, largely about troubleshooting and repairing a malfunctioning system, this 'no repair' stance seems counter intuitive.
For those complaining about 'obsolete' material on the tests, in the real world, machines are often kept in service far beyond the manufacturer's EOL date. Last place I worked at had to keep ISA slot PCs to control lab equipment. A PCI card was about $2000 per card and hard to justify since the old ISA card worked fine. It took several years of end of year budgeting to finally replace and retire all the ISA cards.
What reason? From your post it would seem your interview did what it needed to do and select for the competent ones, certificate or not.Im a supervisor of a very large helpdesk for the DoD. I interview and hire 90% of the staff we have. I couldn't tell you how many people I interviewed with a college degree or higher and didn't know the first thing about troubleshooting or have any technical skills or experience. We require you to be CompTIA certified to meet the 8570 requirements. I can say with confidence those that already have their A+ typically fare much better technically than someone who doesn't.
The CompTIA certifications have largely been the standard and foundation in the IT industry for years. Government and private entities alike both place heavy weight on them and for good reason.