thebufenator
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Just friggin use a router that blocks Microsoft, and manually run your updates weekly.
Staying on Windows 7 is insane and autistic
Staying on Windows 7 is insane and autistic
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You're taking about Threadripper. However TR never receuved any support for Windows 7. It's a hack even at the driver level. On the contrary to Ryzen AM4 plateform.Motherboards can support new cpu's, but to support them we new to flash new bios, which could be incompatible with Windows 7.
For eg on Asrock Taichi x399m you can't go above bios 1.10, if you do so Windows 7 installation will bootloop.
Bioses after 1.10 add TR2 support. So 1950x is an edge for Windows 7.
And about all new software except a few games and that of Microsoft are still compatible with Windows 7, when Windows 10 is incompatible with a lot of not so old professional software and even worse, may need to update professional software between Windows 10 at lunch and now and will be worse in the future.Insane? Do you know that almost all production environments are faster under Win7. Eg, Blender is 10% faster.
No limitations is visible.
It's just marketing crap.
You buy it. But not me.
I decided not to dive into such complex stuff, besides nvme raid is pretty questionable in terms of gained performance.
Thanks to AXm77, i've managed to reach such configuration:
Threadripper 1950x/Noctua u14s/Asrock x399m/64gb Corsair 2666Mhz/512gb Samsung 970 pro nvme/2 tb seagate firecuda with ssd cache/16gb vega vii/nec pa301w
Suppose that such power will be pretty much sufficient for 3-4 years of graphics production under Windows 7
All the motherboards supporting Zen 2, have received a new Bios upgrade with AGESA 070/072 for now. These upgrades need newest drivers, one can't even find today at AMD (only at the motherboard manufacturers). Those drivers may not be compatible with Windows 7. That makes Zen 2, for now, incompatible with Windows 7.
That would be a big shame on AMD. For now, do not update the BIOS to that latter one, especially if you're on Windows 7/8. Even on Windows 10 you may need to update the Chipset drivers to those recommended BEFORE you update the BIOS.
This:What options do I have now, any suggestions please. Thanks.
time to move on...
I'm being fully honest here, if I can't get Ryzen 3 on Windows 7 this summer, I'm going Intel, it's that simple.
At some point you won't be able to run Windows 7 on Intel.
Problem is that they don't even say if this is compatible with the latest BIOS to run on Windows 7, but may run older BIOS with Ryzen 1/2000 series. It may also not be compatible with Ryzen 3000 series yet. They don't say it's compatible !Amd has fairly recent chipset drivers on their website for win 7. The version number is above what Asus lists as recommended for their beta bioses that support the new ryzen 3000 stuff supposedly. Not sure if it will actually work.
Coming back on this.Just friggin use a router that blocks Microsoft, and manually run your updates weekly.
Staying on Windows 7 is insane and autistic
So this security thing is all fabricated crap ! You can run Vista and XP safe today. I do. Never had a virus.
No. This belief is fabricated by M$ for the idiots.You are the reason Windows Updates are being forced.
No. This belief is fabricated by M$ for the idiots.
I say update to 10 and use the 3rd party software to make it more like 7. I did not want to change, but stuff was being made 10 only. Sucks, but I never have to see any of the bloat or malware stuff.
Mouse got caught in the fucking corner one last fucking time and that was it! The final fucking straw.
This seems unrelated to Windows 10 alone. I use a myriad of multi-monitor setups. My desktop, for example:
31.5" 4k | 31.5" 1440p | 2x vertically stacked 24" 1080p
I don't get mice stuck in corners where there isn't a 'natural' corner where these displays don't line up vertically. I've learned to steer around those.
I'm wondering if there isn't something else in the mix, as I've been running various multi-monitor setups since Vista really and haven't seen the issue you describe.
This seems unrelated to Windows 10 alone. I use a myriad of multi-monitor setups. My desktop, for example:
31.5" 4k | 31.5" 1440p | 2x vertically stacked 24" 1080p
I don't get mice stuck in corners where there isn't a 'natural' corner where these displays don't line up vertically. I've learned to steer around those.
I'm wondering if there isn't something else in the mix, as I've been running various multi-monitor setups since Vista really and haven't seen the issue you describe.
Sounds like your monitors aren't aligned in the display settings, I run 3 systems, two of which use 3 monitors and one that uses 2, and the bulk of the office is using a minimum of 2 displays. The only times anybody gets a cursor stuck (myself included) is when they are either moving between monitors with different resolutions usually higher to lower in which case they have to lower the mouse cursor an inch or 2 to get it to move to the lower resolution screen. They were all perplexed by this until I showed them the wonderful little picture in "Display Settings" That showed them how the computer thought their monitors were displayed and pointed out that while they were perfectly lined up on the bottom and could freely move the mouse between the screens at the bottom of the page towards the top they were not aligned, and you could not move between them up in those sections as the computer is convinced there is nothing there. I don't recall if windows 7 or 8 was so caught up on the specifics of the screen alignment or if it just left that decision making up to the video drivers themselves but in Win 10 it is definitely a thing.The 3rd party stuff only gets you so far. Last week I rolled back my work PC back to 7. Mouse got caught in the fucking corner one last fucking time and that was it! The final fucking straw.
We see it all the time moving between monitors on our side. If the cursor is on pixels 1081-1440 and you try dragging it over to one of the 1080’s it just gets to the screen edge and stops, drop it back down into the range of the adjoining monitor and it pops right over. Not sure if it is a windows issue or an nVidia issue never had the time or inclination to actually find out an answer and really the work around is pretty simple so nobody really complains any more. But yeah as annoying as it may be that odd time it happens it really isn’t worth putting up with Windows 7 for a fix though.I run a 3440x1440 main with a 27” 1440p VS Code/terminal/cloud9 ide vertical at home.
Same at at work, next years gear allowance I may expense an open loop cooled blinged out rgb o11 res block showbox to annoy the millennials.
We use macs, Ubuntu on thinkpads, win10.
Never had mouse stick issues.
If I’m working a project in Azure/GKE/VMware and AWS at the same time, sometimes i want 2x ultrawides and a pair of 27” code monitors.
If the cursor is on pixels 1081-1440 and you try dragging it over to one of the 1080’s it just gets to the screen edge and stops, drop it back down into the range of the adjoining monitor and it pops right over. Not sure if it is a windows issue or an nVidia issue never had the time or inclination to actually find out an answer and really the work around is pretty simple so nobody really complains any more. But yeah as annoying as it may be that odd time it happens it really isn’t worth putting up with Windows 7 for a fix though.
Yes and no, in Windows 7 when you drag it over it will simply decide its out of range and move the coordinates accordingly in win 10 it just says “FU NO” and it stays there.Is this a detailed explanation for 'mouse cursor not moving to pixels that don't exist'?
Yes and no, in Windows 7 when you drag it over it will simply decide its out of range and move the coordinates accordingly in win 10 it just says “FU NO” and it stays there.
I can’t recall it getting stuck in 7, but when I was still using 7 actively I was using an AMD card and now on 10 I am using an nVidia and I can say for sure it does get stuck. Not sure if the sticking is a Win10, or nVidia thing.... or if it did it with AMD/ATI as well and I just plum forgot.I honestly can say that I haven't used Windows 7 with mismatched monitor bounds to remember. What I do remember is that the mouse would get stuck, but I can't remember if that was Windows 7 or others. I moved immediately to Windows 8 (and then 8.1 and then 10).
Yes and no, in Windows 7 when you drag it over it will simply decide its out of range and move the coordinates accordingly in win 10 it just says “FU NO” and it stays there.
I understand the interface is better for Windows 7, I get that. I couldn't agree more with that opinion as I share it. However, consider this: Windows 10 has recently been updated (Build 1903) with an improved scheduler for AMD Ryzen CPU's. Previously, the scheduler would just use whatever cores it wanted to regardless of whether or not it was crossing CCX complexes. This introduces massive latency. The new scheduler is aware of Ryzen's topology and uses a single CCX complex before placing workloads on additional complexes. Windows 7 is in the final stages of support according to Microsoft and is nearly EOL. It's a pain in the ass to install on modern machines. Newer hardware features will not be supported by Windows 7. At what point do you give up and move on?
You guys remind me of the DOS4Lyfe crowd back in the mid-1990's.
Exactly. They changed it for the worse, I would say, 'for no reason' but the reason is that it's aimed squarely at tablets and not Desktop PCs. That's the fundamental fucking problem.
Linux when Win7 goes EOL, it's actually mature enough now, and in recent trials I find I've spent more time fighting with Win10 than I have learning a new OS. It's certainly a more pleasant experience to discover new amazing things, than to keep finding what was once good is now gone and keep asking myself, "is there a 3rd party app to bring it back?"
#calculator #paint #taskmanager #fuckingstartmenu
Emotional? No. They like it because it works awesome and doesn't have lot of bloatware and malware. When you need a bunch of 3rd party software to make yourI wish people wouldn't get so emotionally attached to an old operating system
108% correctEmotional? No. They like it because it works awesome and doesn't have lot of bloatware and malware. When you need a bunch of 3rd party software to make your
OS less malware free and more usable, there is a problem.