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Holy shit, I can't believe this thread is still going strong in 2019
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I can't believe it's 2019. and the FW900 is still the best we have when it comes to monitors.Holy shit, I can't believe this thread is still going strong in 2019
They probably mean 90 hz is not supported by them, not that the hardware can't do it.thanks but damn, its getting very confusing, now the guys from Plugable replied they dont have a 90hz compatible adapter :s maybe they decided to discontinue it due to lack of demand.....
maybe getting the sunix only then, thinking about it....
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thanks but damn, its getting very confusing, now the guys from Plugable replied they dont have a 90hz compatible adapter :s maybe they decided to discontinue it due to lack of demand.....
thanks but damn, its getting very confusing, now the guys from Plugable replied they dont have a 90hz compatible adapter :s maybe they decided to discontinue it due to lack of demand.....
maybe getting the sunix only then, thinking about it....
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DPU3000: max input 720 MHz
jka, are you still having those issues you reported with the sunix some time ago? i was reading some of your past post regarding the sunix for example, you reported that using it at 120hz gave you issues.
Create "AutoExec.cfg" file in /base/ directory. For RoE expansion do it in /d3xp/ directory.
Add the following commands:
# allows console and enables some extra tweaks from below
com_allowConsole "1"
# disables ingame 60FPS limit, makes the game too fast
com_precisetic 0
com_fixedtic 1
# -1 means activating custom resolution mode
r_mode -1
r_customHeight 1200
r_customWidth 1600
# 0 = 4:3, 1 = 16:9, 2 = 16:10
r_aspectratio 0
# 1 = vsync ON
r_swapInterval 0
# must force 63Hz refresh rate this way too
r_displayRefresh 63
r_fullscreen 1
my goal would be to use some custom resolutions and refreshes depending on games, such 2048 x 1536 @55hz and 60hz to 1920 x 1200 90hz, can i ask you how your sunix behave at those resolutions with your 1080 ti?
Hm, could you expand on that please? I wasnt able to go over 500MHz (1080ti here).
That is the max possible digital input bandwidth because the displayport receiver is a four lanes HBR2,so 720 MHz 24 bit or 576 MHz 30 bit.
The max analog output is another story,i said tested up to 500 MHz thanks to your report,if i remember correctly someone else in the past has tested resolutions over 500 MHz but i don't know if it was stable.
The causes of the fact that you can't go over 500 MHz can be:
the displayport receiver is not good enough (possible)
the displayport cable can't handle that (i dubt because with 500 MHz you are in HBR2 mode and with at least three lanes should go at 540 MHz)
the internal DAC can't handle such fequency (most probably)
firmware or PCB design problem (possible)
The input lag of Sunix DPU3000 has been tested by Strat_84 with SMTT 2.0 and it's null.
Anyway i think that none of these all-in-one chipset have any input lag.
the idea is to order from your link, but according to sunix page, they dont include power cable and the DPU3000-D2 only includes miniDP to MiniDP, not miniDP to DP, also someone from the US will bring those to colombia soon where i am and dont have much time to wait to see if the cables come and order after if those dont, i maybe be able to get those cables here, bur here those type of cables use to be generic garbaje, or very overpriced, so better not to take risk since those are cheap in amazon.
To anyone who cares. I ended up selling my Samsung. Ultimately, the inability to adjust brightness while in ULMB mode was the deal-breaker for me. So I'm back to using my Artisan. Not as sharp as my old F520 but whatever. It's still more than adequate for the task at hand.
Welcome back! :hugs:
I would have thought the brightness would be lower on CRT anyway? Or that wasnt the issue for you?
To anyone who cares. I ended up selling my Samsung. Ultimately, the inability to adjust brightness while in ULMB mode was the deal-breaker for me. So I'm back to using my Artisan. Not as sharp as my old F520 but whatever. It's still more than adequate for the task at hand.
pretty much appreciated, thanks for that info, after all we still, (well, me at least) keep using CRT monitors since there still don't seem to be a really good substitute ......yet,.......in 2019!! just mimics with drawbacks like the one you mentioned
talking about ULMB mode, i have read that it also introduces input lag, have you experienced that with that samsung?
Double image effect is present on all strobed displays when framerate is half of refresh rate. On CRT alsoi have personally witnessed some monitors losing so much brightness even lower than CRT levels or creating double imag effect making that ULMB mode pointlees, but i wasnt able to test latency, i have read that ULMB also introduces input lag, have you experienced that with that samsung?
I'm pretty sure ULMB is single strobe only. Some other ones like BenQ blur reduction or Lightboost have double strobing at 60 hz, I think, but can be turned off in the service menu. Only the Eizo FG2421 was double strobe at all refresh rates. The problem with strobing is that if the backlight is not bright enough the image will be very dim with lower duty cycles (lower persistence and better motion clarity). Nowadays LED backlights have no problems being overbright even so a strobe of 2 ms will still be more than bright enough for 120 nits or more. The FG2421 also had a slow VA panel so the double strobing was needed to smooth out the artifacts.right, i know that. however from my own experience, sometime ago i saw a modern monitor with blur reduction option from the OSD, when i activated it i first notice a big reduction in brightness and when i ran the testufo site street map motion test i notice the text was clearly readable but doubled, i dont remeber what the framerate exaclty was, but i do remeber that the refresh rate and the framerate were the same reported at the bottom of the page.
also from what i have read, in most modern monitors backlight strobing to mimic CRT motion clarity have a more notable flicker effect than CRT so that you need higher refresh rates on those than CRT to achieve same motion clarity without bad notable flicker, so you would need something like 90hz + on most modern monitor to achieve the same clarity and flicker perception than a CRT can at 60hz, so the backlight strobes twice the refresh rate when using refreshes lower than arround 90hz to reduce bad flicker with the drawback of creating double images due to strobe rate = twice the refresh rate even if the framerate is the same as refresh rate. so one would be stuck to higher refresh rates on modern strobed monitors to achieve the smoother flicker non double image non blurry motion that can be achievable at lower refreshes on the CRTs. (i even play some games at 55 HZ on my FW900 and personally i dont notice any annoying flicker)
quote from a moderator from the blurbusters forum: "60Hz strobing on LCD looks like 30Hz CRT or something. It's really bad."
also it seems there is only one modern family monitor model being able to do single strobe at lower refreshes with not so bad flicker and no double images at refreshes such 60hz with the backward of being a TN monitor with crap colors black levels, etc...
interesting, however, as usual and expected, strobing only oficialy works on that monitor at 100 or higher HZ
"(Motion Blur Reduction) setting causes the backlight to flicker at a frequency matching the refresh rate – with 100Hz, 120Hz and 144Hz selectable"
and surelly, as with other modern monitors, it may be enabled with CRU or something like that below 100hz but with double strobing or any other drawbacks
Acer Predator XB270HU did 85Hz and 100Hz in 2005: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xb270hu.htm#pursuit
and that without counting those games that run at 60fps
2015 is correct, it was a typo =P2005? you sure you did not write wrong? in that review says 2015, thats a monitor from 2015
about the lightboost hack, thats correct, i've been following the modern monitor CRT clarity progress since that lightboost hack discovery back in arround 2014