You forgot the Athlon X2 - they really tore the Pentium-D a new one
Good looking out. Didn't have an x2, had an Opteron 144 running 315x9, then straight to a phenom ii. Fucking crazy overclocks back then.
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You forgot the Athlon X2 - they really tore the Pentium-D a new one
For decades Intel enjoyed a monopoly, they started ignoring this part. I am glad to see the competition soon beginsThat poor 8700k died for this review and for our entertainment. I am a little surprised seeing the 1800x beating the 2700x at the same clockrate in some benchmarks.
That is not named correctly is what that is according to AMD. I think ASUS is aware of needing to clean this up and rename what I mentioned above so that it is more clear for all of us and not as confusing.
I will have full followup coming with 3400 and 16 cas timings at stock and PB2.Kyle,
Would a review of different ram with the 2700x be possible?
I myself have the same Asus ROG Hero and have debated on faster ram or tighter latency.
Im thinking better latency would increase performance than higher clocked ram.
just my $0.02
I have another 5 hours of testing on the 2700X for Precision Boost 2 and that will hopefully put it all into perspective.At least the price difference between X and non-X is near-negligible now.
I put together my new 2700X build last night. Used 14CAS 3200 on the Strix X470 board, everything is working great so far. Just running stock for now on the stock cooler, haven't decided what to cool it with yet, will be looking out for that next.
I am getting that this is likely "Precision Boost 2" being named incorrectly. Still trying to get confirmation.
Having used way too many FX cpu's I can say, they often ran better when you let them control their own clocks, especially if you didnt have a mobo that had the ability to reliably supply 200w of power to the cpu. AMD has had dynamic clocking and power under control for some time. Bulldozer cpus were really a tech marvel, unfortunately they caught fire and burned on launch. I expect overclocking will die in the next 2-3 years as AI takes over and just pushes the chips as far as they can go all the time. Its been happening for 5+ years now.
How well does dynamic clocking take advantage of the type of temps that would only be seen in high end custom loop or sub ambient loops?
On the fx it didn't at all. Cooling was only helpful for all core overclocks. I however never bought a motherboard with good enough power delivery to be able to overclock much without the motherboard throttling. In one case overclocking at all caused throttling, and the vrms and Northbridge would get extremely hot. Best performance letting the cpu boost itself.How well does dynamic clocking take advantage of the type of temps that would only be seen in high end custom loop or sub ambient loops?
Will have Wraith Prism and Water numbers this week.Well for one, I'm pretty sure Kyle is seeing higher stock clocks on his cooling setup than I'm seeing (I am on a Noctua U12). His scores are marginally higher than mine across the board at stock, but were looking about the same OC'd to 4.2. This suggests Precision Boost & XFR2 are giving him a bit more headroom.
Concert tonight with my daughter for her 16th birthday. I played Hunt last night.DAMN man....Make sure to take a break too! Go play some Hunt Showdown tonight and crack a cold one to relax. Can't wait to see the results
Looks like anandtech updated all its gaming charts again. 8700K back on top. Maybe next year, Zen2
That said, still great value for money.
Looks like anandtech updated all its gaming charts again. 8700K back on top. Maybe next year, Zen2
That said, still great value for money.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12678/a-timely-discovery-examining-amd-2nd-gen-ryzen-results/5
Well that's funny. The HPET problem was largely on the Intel side. AMD results within margin of error compared to initial pass, but Intel results wildly improved. That's about what I suspected, a problem on the Intel side of their testing.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12678/a-timely-discovery-examining-amd-2nd-gen-ryzen-results/5
Well that's funny. The HPET problem was largely on the Intel side. AMD results within margin of error compared to initial pass, but Intel results wildly improved. That's about what I suspected, a problem on the Intel side of their testing.
I don't fully understand, is Intel actually faster or is inaccuracy in the timer when HPET isn't used causing them to appear to be faster with it disabled?
Are there many gaming reviews at 3400-3600? The gaming performance seems to jump from limited data I've seen.In games, the 8700k is generally faster. The HPET issue was causing the 8700k to appear slower than it was in Anandtech's review. Anandtech has updated the charts, which are now in line with the other reviewers, showing the 2700X at somewhere around 90-94% of the 8700k's gaming performance.
The 2700X remains generally faster in multi-threaded applications, as expected.
Are there many gaming reviews at 3400-3600? The gaming performance seems to jump from limited data I've seen.
Most are running at least 3200. I've seen some running faster. The 8700k is still a better gaming-only CPU. For mixed use, the 2700X is at least as good - if not better, depending on use case.
I regard this release as a fundamental tie. Both chips are good, your choice should boil down to what you're doing with it.
Seems the additional cores would prove more useful for streaming and doing other crap while gaming.
This is generally the case; streaming is system intensive, 'other stuff' is obviously open to interpretation.
But bear in mind that if you keep CPUs as long as you've kept the 3570k, games will evolve and single-core performance will likely increase in demand.
This is generally the case; streaming is system intensive, 'other stuff' is obviously open to interpretation.
But bear in mind that if you keep CPUs as long as you've kept the 3570k, games will evolve and single-core performance will likely increase in demand.
the new Ryzen is close enough that most people won't notice any difference tbh.
Yeah maybe, but it seems like most are getting to a point they're going to start using up to 12 threads if available. The 8700k could temp me with the right price drop, but it'd need to get in the 250-275 range. I'm half tempted by the 2600x as well as an alternative.
The 8700k is still a better gaming-only CPU.
What did you have the 5960x OC to?I have a 1080ti and with my 5960x I'd sometimes get hitching. Haven't seen it with the 2700x and I did absolutely nothing software wise... I just plopped in Ryzen/mobo/ram and hooked it up. So I can't complain.