Ryzen Owners Thread

Well MSI just put up a 1.1 BIOS release for the B350 Tomahawk. Funny how it says it was posted on 3/10. It wasn't showing up until today. Says stability improvements but not much else noted there on the page. If it doesn't improve memory compatibility or add additional BIOS functionality then I'm not sure it is worth risking the flash.
 
I changed my memory over from 3000MHz Vengeance LPX that wouldn't boot anything past 2133MHz to G.Skill Trident 3200 (Cl 16-16-16) and I'm now able to boot into Windows running 2666MHz at 14-14-14. But can't boot above that even using the Ryzen Master Utility.
Still better than 2133MHz. Just have to wait for BIOS maturity on these boards. :)
 
HWMonitor on my system shows a value of 28c for SYSTIN and 38c for CPUTIN.
Ryzen Master shows a temperature value that is corresponding to SYSTIN in HWMonitor.
Based on what I have read about those two values via a google search. CPUTIN is the one you want to trust as it is the motherboard CPU temp sensor.

This definitely makes me want to rethink whether it is a good idea to go by Ryzen Master as far as reported temps go.

EDIT: On the other hand HWMonitor shows a value corresponding to Ryzen Master under the CPU->Temperatures->Package section. Bit confusing but maybe Ryzen Master is right after all?
 
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DuronBurgerMan said:
Possibly a dumb question... but does Ryzen Master show the CORRECT temps? I know some applications were supposed to show +20C over the actual temps for the 1700X and 1800X because reasons. But does AMD's own app report correctly?
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the 1700x and 1800x according to AMD had a 20 degree offset which the standard 1700 did not have. Not sure if their own software reports the correctly or not. I can tell you my motherboard and corsair link so a loooot cooler temps than ryzen master on my 1700x
 
luke51087 said:
the 1700x and 1800x according to AMD had a 20 degree offset which the standard 1700 did not have. Not sure if their own software reports the correctly or not. I can tell you my motherboard and corsair link so a loooot cooler temps than ryzen master on my 1700x
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Based on what I saw when I was using it, Ryzen Master was over reporting to the same degree that other monitoring software was for core temps.
 
My Titanium arrived today, which was a pleasant surprise for me as I had figured it'd be tomorrow, as per USPS tracking estimate :D

Got it all setup, just need to hit the power button! Only reason I've yet to is because I need to burn a Win 10 ISO DVD heh

Two things worth mentioning though.
First: The power phase heatsink screws were all very loose! I didn't really pay attention, but I figure they were at least a full 1-1/2 turn from being tight. (Chipset was tight though)
Second: i don't know for certain, I've not researched how MOSFETs and their Power Drivers work. I believe years back each 'phase' had 2 MOSFETs (a high and a low?) and each had their own Driver chip. Then I believe those two FETs were merged into a single package, only needing a single Driver. Where my info starts to get flaky is on Drivers capability to singlehandedly drive two Phases, in a quality manner. I'm hoping so, and I'm even more hoping that's what MSI has done here. I've yet to look at my photos I took, but what I can say is that on the back of the motherboard is a single International Rectifier chip for every two Phases. This board is 6+2+2 and thus has 5 of these lil IR chips. On the CPU side, there are 3 Input caps feeding these. So I'm hoping these are just chips capable of providing two true Phases each, and it's not a lower-end Phase Doubler. Keep in mind I did not remove the VRM heatsinks, and didn't plan to either, so for that sort of in-depth research we'll have to leave it to Dan :p

I'll post my pics a bit later, as I wanna press that damn power button now :D
 
I am seeing 25c idle temps with Ryzen Master and a H110i AIO. Previously with the Wraith I was getting 35c idle temps. This is a 1700 non X series CPU @ stock clocks.

I flashed my BIOS to 1.10 release today. This is a MSI Tomahawk. There is a new feature in the BIOS on the 1.10 release A-XMP. I set it to that and the system rebooted with my modules running at PC3200 14-14-14 timings 1.35v. This is a gskill trident Z 2x8GB pc3200 cl14 set.
 
Riptide_NVN said:
I flashed my BIOS to 1.10 release today. This is a MSI Tomahawk. There is a new feature in the BIOS on the 1.10 release A-XMP. I set it to that and the system rebooted with my modules running at PC3200 14-14-14 timings 1.35v. This is a gskill trident Z 2x8GB pc3200 cl14 set.
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Ooh. I like the sound of that! Not having to have specific AMD Profiled memory to use that will be nice. Though lets be honest... not having to deal with profiles at all would be even better :\ Hopefully AMD sorts out whatever it is that has them holding back subtimings so that we can have the ability to adjust them.
 
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You guys use memtest?

A-XMP is on in the BIOS and cpuz shows 1600mhz 14-14-14-34 in windows.

Memtest shows slower clocks and timings. Not sure if its showing actual or some other jedec value. I assume this is normal.
 
iirc, memtest shows the actual memory clock (so, if you multiply it by two you should get the effective clock, which is usually the advertised memory speed).
I'm not sure about timings--could be that it is detecting them wrong, or it's reading the jedec profile, or it could just be how the memory describes itself (a "product name" field, or some such). I'd have to look it up.
 
Looks like jdec speed, type (DDRx), enabled profile / profile timings / product make and model. For example I have the XMP profile enabled, but set custom timings and clock:
Actual: 2400MHz CAS11-12-11-28
MT86+: PC3-21300 DDR3 XMP 2666MHz / 11-13-13-32 / Kingston KHX2666C11D3
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Riptide_NVN said:
HWMonitor on my system shows a value of 28c for SYSTIN and 38c for CPUTIN.
Ryzen Master shows a temperature value that is corresponding to SYSTIN in HWMonitor.
Based on what I have read about those two values via a google search. CPUTIN is the one you want to trust as it is the motherboard CPU temp sensor.

This definitely makes me want to rethink whether it is a good idea to go by Ryzen Master as far as reported temps go.

EDIT: On the other hand HWMonitor shows a value corresponding to Ryzen Master under the CPU->Temperatures->Package section. Bit confusing but maybe Ryzen Master is right after all?
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New Ryzen support for HWMonitor. ;)

http://www.cpuid.com/news/49-hwmonitor-1-31-and-hwmonitor-pro-1-28-with-amd-ryzen-support.html
 
Riptide_NVN said:
Well MSI just put up a 1.1 BIOS release for the B350 Tomahawk. Funny how it says it was posted on 3/10. It wasn't showing up until today. Says stability improvements but not much else noted there on the page. If it doesn't improve memory compatibility or add additional BIOS functionality then I'm not sure it is worth risking the flash.
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msi has bios 1.32 available for the tomahawk here http://msi-ftp.de:8080/login.html

they've added a new feature. memory try it! weird name but now i can boot my 16gb hyperx dual rank dimms at 2667.

not sure how my memory is gonna like the additional voltage. i guess we'll see.

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y0bailey said:
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/4Tx0eBTlv.jpg

I JUST NEED MY STINKING MOBO! Gets here SAT.
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You could at least warn me that there is porn here before I click on the link. :D Enjoy.

Edit: Oh, and I thought I had broken both my computers because everything was suddenly running a lot slower, although Cinebench showed the correct score. Turns out, the newest Malwarebytes Anti malware is an extreme resource hog and you even have to disable the service itself or you machine will run like crap.

Now, everything is extremely fast once again. :)
 
Riptide_NVN said:
I am seeing 25c idle temps with Ryzen Master and a H110i AIO. Previously with the Wraith I was getting 35c idle temps. This is a 1700 non X series CPU @ stock clocks.

I flashed my BIOS to 1.10 release today. This is a MSI Tomahawk. There is a new feature in the BIOS on the 1.10 release A-XMP. I set it to that and the system rebooted with my modules running at PC3200 14-14-14 timings 1.35v. This is a gskill trident Z 2x8GB pc3200 cl14 set.
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exactly the same for me. i cant get it above 52 when loaded @ 1.35 3800 this 110 while huge really cools well.
 
At stock clocks on my 7700 the Ryzen Master won't go over 38c for me. I'm eventually going to try for 3.8ghz so it looks like temps shouldn't be a problem there going off your results. Nice.

Nobu said:
Looks like jdec speed
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Thanks that is good to know.

Been thinking of trying the 1.32 Beta BIOS but may just go ahead and hold off for now. I had a bugcheck reboot yesterday but the system passed over an hour of memtest so my initial suspicion memory being the culprit seems in doubt now. If I get another bugcheck I'll get serious about running more tests.
 
I dont think HWmonitor has the 20 degree offset in for my 1700x, even idle on my h110 its shows anything from 43 to 51 and thats with balanced mode and the power saving stuff on.

Actually the CPU one shows like 43 full load, and under the CPU it self the package is showing 75 while I do a quick cpu z multicore stress test. not sure which one to believe
 
What voltages is everyone seeing?

BIOS on my 1700x/Gigabyte AB350 G3 shows 1.2ish volts but in Windows its showing 1.4v+ in HWinfo and Easytune (though it does fluctuate down to 1.2 if I'm not doing anything)

Is this typical or is it perhaps a BIOS issue?
 
On my asrock board i am seeing the 1.35 since i have my 1700x sitting at 3.9 it auto regulated the voltage to 1.35 and i havent seen it go above even with full load.
 
RAutrey said:
OK guys and gals. What do you think about your new rig/upgrade? I'm looking at retiring my 8350 setup and would like to have some feedback from peeps who actually use Ryzen.

I'm considering a 1700 that will hopefully hit at least 3.8 with an ASUS ROG Crosshairs VI Hero.

Thanks!
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yes mine is over 5 years since last upgrade cpu .got me ryzen 1800x(yes i know over kill RIGHT?), but IT called to BUY ME LASTGUYTOM BUY ME!!
I AM HANDICAP AND WAITING ON MY BUDDY TO HELP ME ,take out the old parts and slap in the new (only use of one hand , limited to 20 minute standing)

if completed this will be the specs

AMD RYZEN 1800X
ASUS CROSSHAIR VI HERO X370
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LED 3200 MHZ 4 X8 GB DDR4 32GB TOTAL
XFX RADEON R9 295X2( 2 GPU ON ONE CARD)
CREATIVE LABS SOUND BLASTER ( MAY NOT RE-INSTALL IT)
SAMSUNG 960 EVO 500GB M.2 (MY NEW BOOT)
a 500 SSD (THIS WILL BECOME MY NEW GAME DRIVE FOR MOST PLAYED GAMES)
HAVE ALOT OF DRIVES TOTAL OF 5 MORE(TOTALING 10 1/3 TB)
BLU-RAY PLAYER BURNER CD
AND MY HIGH SPIN DVD./CD
(YES STOP LAUGHING, I STILL USE THEM, AS CUP HOLDERS )
COOLER MASTER HAF X CASE
ROSEWILL 1200 WATT PSU (modular)
CYBER POWER 1300 WATT BATTERY BACKUP/LINE REGULATOR/VOLTAGE PROTECTOR
ASUS 4K MONITOR 75MHZ FREE SYNC 28 INCH--PRIMARY
NEC PA301AW 2550X1600 30 IN 60 MHZ--SECONDARY
LOGITECH CAMERA
ADD INTEL WIFI ADAPTER WITH BLUETOOTH FOR THE OTHER M.2 PORT
RYOS KEYBOARD FROM ROCCAT
NYTH MOUSE FROM ROCCAT
ASTRO A40 HEADSET (wired)
TRACK IR --USED IN Arma and star citizen and most racing games!!
 
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lastguytom said:
yes mine is over 5 years since last upgrade cpu .got me ryzen 1800x(yes i know over kill RIGHT?), but IT called to BUY ME LASTGUYTOM BUY ME!!
I AM HANDICAP AND WAITING ON MY BUDDY TO HELP ME ,take out the old parts and slap in the new (only use of one hand , limited to 20 minute standing)

if completed this will be the specs

AMD RYZEN 1800X
ASUS CROSSHAIR VI HERO X370
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LED 3200 MHZ 4 X8 GB DDR4 32GB TOTAL
XFX RADEON R9 295X2( 2 GPU ON ONE CARD)
CREATIVE LABS SOUND BLASTER ( MAY NOT RE-INSTALL IT)
SAMSUNG 960 EVO 500GB M.2 (MY NEW BOOT)
a 500 SSD (THIS WILL BECOME MY NEW GAME DRIVE FOR MOST PLAYED GAMES)
HAVE ALOT OF DRIVES TOTAL OF 5 MORE(TOTALING 10 1/3 TB)
BLU-RAY PLAYER BURNER CD
AND MY HIGH SPIN DVD./CD
(YES STOP LAUGHING, I STILL USE THEM, AS CUP HOLDERS )
COOLER MASTER HAF X CASE
ROSEWILL 1200 WATT PSU (modular)
CYBER POWER 1300 WATT BATTERY BACKUP/LINE REGULATOR/VOLTAGE PROTECTOR
ASUS 4K MONITOR 75MHZ FREE SYNC 28 INCH--PRIMARY
NEC PA301AW 2550X1600 30 IN 60 MHZ--SECONDARY
LOGITECH CAMERA
ADD INTEL WIFI ADAPTER WITH BLUETOOTH FOR THE OTHER M.2 PORT
RYOS KEYBOARD FROM ROCCAT
NYTH MOUSE FROM ROCCAT
ASTRO A40 HEADSET (wired)
TRACK IR --USED IN Arma and star citizen and most racing games!!
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Grats. I hope you enjoy your new system. Best wishes to you.
 
This is the bugcheck my system gets with the 1.10 release Tomahawk BIOS and A-XMP enabled. I just turned off A-XMP and set RAM to 2667mhz in the BIOS and will see if I keep getting these issues. If so I will clock down to 2400mhz.

Does anyone know how to re-enable virtualization in the B350 Tomahawk BIOS? Hyper-v isn't working for me on my system now.

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so on my asrock killer x370 I just noticed my system was only seeing one stick of memory, found out my brand new gskill RGB trident z one of the sticks already went bad.
 
luke51087 said:
so on my asrock killer x370 I just noticed my system was only seeing one stick of memory, found out my brand new gskill RGB trident z one of the sticks already went bad.
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That sucks dude. Were you running it at auto voltage/DOCP? Supposedly that overvoltages it too much.
 
Well im doing one replacement at least from newegg. They were working well 2x8gb at 2933 but i had to use 16-18-18-36 timings on my 14-14-14-34
 
DooKey said:
Gotcha. I have mine running at 1.37 and it seems to be ok so far.
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yeah the one stick i have is still running, still using it right now. It was weird my bios was showing the second stick but was reporting single channel and windows showed 8gb hardware reserved and did not show up in cpu z. Right now i have the good one in slot 2, and i tried the one that was in slot 4 back in 2 by it self and i did not boot even at stock settings.
 
y0bailey Report back once you build the rig. I'm interested to hear how that SSD is. I hadn't heard of BPX previously, but the pricing is nice.
 
Anyone else getting extremely high dpc latency with storport.sys?
 
Damn. I am still getting bugcheck reboots with my modules clocked down to 2667. To be fair I am not sure the modules are really the issue here. It could be the BIOS I am using (B350 Tomahawk 1.10 release) is just not fully stable. I am back on 2400 now which worked fine with the 1.00 release BIOS. If I still get bugcheck reboots then I may have to either go back to a release 1.00 or try a beta BIOS.

It's an odd situation the system can pass over an hour of walltime in memtest without error and I can play BF4 for an hour or two without a crash. Leave it sitting overnight and the next morning it has rebooted.
 
Riptide_NVN said:
Damn. I am still getting bugcheck reboots with my modules clocked down to 2667. To be fair I am not sure the modules are really the issue here. It could be the BIOS I am using (B350 Tomahawk 1.10 release) is just not fully stable. I am back on 2400 now which worked fine with the 1.00 release BIOS. If I still get bugcheck reboots then I may have to either go back to a release 1.00 or try a beta BIOS.

It's an odd situation the system can pass over an hour of walltime in memtest without error and I can play BF4 for an hour or two without a crash. Leave it sitting overnight and the next morning it has rebooted.
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is it doing any kind of hibernate/sleep/hard drive power off?
 
Nope. I did just now disable USB selective suspend and disabled hybrid sleep in the advanced settings. I am using high performance. Keep in mind nothing in the operating system changed. Only the BIOS and it's settings changed. Points to the problem being introduced from that source.

I have been reading a lot of negativity about the 1.32 beta BIOS. If I do end up trying a beta before giving up I may try 1.31 instead. Worst case I'll be trying to get back to 1.00 release BIOS because that one produced no stability problems for me.

Only other thing that changed recently was the use of Corsair Link software. I may remove it from memory and test that way before I give up and flash another BIOS.
 
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