Just ordered the Dell UltraSharp 2209WA

My first impressions review is below. Please note that all my impression are based on the out of the box default settings.

Price Paid: 200 dollars + sales tax

History

I was shopping around for a nice 22-inch to 24-inch monitor in the 300 dollar price range. What disappointed me, was that most of the monitors in that price range had TN panels, and of course had I not been on this forum I probably would have ordered a 24 inch TN panel monitor and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. This forum of course convinced me to look for a nicer IPS or PVA/MVA display. Then one lovely day as I was browsing the interwebs I spotted this monitor, my savior.

I pulled the trigger on it as soon as it was available for sale, for $299. However soon enough I found out that some people on this forum where getting up to $100 dollars off, and surely enough a couple of phone-calls later I managed to make a second order for the monitor for $200, I immediately followed that phone call with another phone call to customer care to cancel the $299 order. I was honestly skeptical this was going to work out, the price sounded too good to be true. However a couple of days later I had a shipping confirmation number and my monitor was happily leaving out of a Tennessee warehouse.

The box came in slightly beat up with a hole in one side and the safety tape ripped on one end, but hey its FedEx, they treat packages like, well packages... No reason to worry because the monitor is safe inside its styrofoam cocoon. Once I opened the box I found a VGA, DVI and USB cable, along with the usual manual and driver CD.

The Stand.

I think it's worth writing about it because most monitors in this price range have a stand that only has basic tilt functions, the Dell stand not only looks solid but feels solid as well. The stand has swivel, height adjustment, and monitor rotation functionality. Not to mention there is a hole in the stand to guide all your cables through. It feels very smooth when you perform any adjustments with the stand, no creaks or anything, feels like it’s gliding on butter.

The Monitor

In terms of ports this monitor is nothing special, a DVI, VGA, and 4 USB ports. There is a handy little information card that slides out that has all the monitor serial number information (in case you need to contact support, you don’t have to climb behind your desk) that is located next to the side USB ports. If you need extra expansion you could always get a switch to add more DVI/HDMI ports. DisplayPort isnt that prevalent yet anyways, so no need to worry about not having it. The DVI port does have HDCP so you could hook up your Blu-Ray player. I have not detected any buzz or operating noise from the inverter, as the monitor seems perfectly silent. Honestly all I want is a good monitor, and for that I only need a DVI port, so this monitor definitely fit my criteria.

The Image

To be honest I haven't calibrated it nor touched any of the adjustment settings. It definitely needs adjustments, but I will wait until I get a calibration tool before making any judgements on the color reproduction and such. I just got this monitor literally an hour ago so all I did was watch a couple of HD trailers.I am pretty confident that this monitor will be completely awesome after some tweaking. But my impressions so far is that the backlight bleed is minimal and that the screen is very homogeneous. The blacks are very black and the whites are well white. The colors have a nice amount of saturation, the viewing angles are awesome, and the antiglare coating is very nice in my opinion.

In Conclusion

The monitor is definitely worth its $299 price, in fact some people in Europe are paying upwards of $500 for this monitor, but I would say it’s still worth it (as long as you don’t need more built in inputs). I love this monitor and I think it appeals to a wide range of audiences, from photographers to gamers.

Videos
Viewing Angles Demo
On Screen Display (OSD)
 
Price in Poland - 125 usd with shipping. ;) Probably it's been a mistake, but I've bought it and my order hasn't been cancelled. ;) The package came yesterday.
It's my first lcd and I'm really satisfied. Black is black, no backlight bleeding, colours and viewing angles are great. I have an old crt so I've measured input lag:
11 x 0ms
32 x 15/16ms
1 x 31ms
so it's about 16ms.
 
I really don't get it... what exactly is wrong with this monitor to justify its measly $300 pricetag? Everything I've seen so far makes it seem like a minor miracle.


Nothing's wrong with it, it's a new type IPS panel that is supposed to be as cheap as TN to manufacture.
 
Just got mine in today and my second one is coming tomorrow :D the height adjustment is a huge plus for me. So far with only turning down the brightness a little this monitor is beautiful. Best of all no dead pixels (Thank goodness) First two brand new LG's out of the box for me each had issues none so far with this one.
 
Anyone know what kind of price Marcus is handing out if you were to call him today? Or do we need to wait until the quarter is about to end to get deals on these?
 
Anyone know what kind of price Marcus is handing out if you were to call him today? Or do we need to wait until the quarter is about to end to get deals on these?

Wouldn't be a bad idea just to call and find out if you're interested. That's probably what I would do.
 
Some of us aren't able to get to a phone right now...:(

Ah, I want two these so bad...but I don't have $600!
 
Price in Poland - 125 usd with shipping. ;) Probably it's been a mistake, but I've bought it and my order hasn't been cancelled. ;) The package came yesterday.
It's my first lcd and I'm really satisfied. Black is black, no backlight bleeding, colours and viewing angles are great. I have an old crt so I've measured input lag:
11 x 0ms
32 x 15/16ms
1 x 31ms
so it's about 16ms.

I am extremely jealous! But everyone gets lucky sometime :) Should've ordered 2!
Mine came today, gotta find room to set it up and check it out :)
 
$200 incl. shipment? If I wanted a 22" I would be really jealous right now, because the 2209WA looks very promissing. In euro countries like The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and France Dell charges €418($542) excl. shipping. All models are overpriced actually. Dell is really robbing us in the Euro countries.
 
Thanks for the pictures. Amazingly enough, I don't even see much of the usual IPS white/purple off-angle glow in a few of those (if at all?).



How is the anti-glare coating, by the way? Is it the usual sparkly mess that Dell puts on their monitors? I had a 2007WFP for a bit, and the dusty/grainy appearance the coating gave on light colors drove me nuts.

It does look sparkly... I feel like I need to wipe it off.

Also, as I write this... I've spotted one stuck pixel. :-/
 
$200 incl. shipment? If I wanted a 22" I would be really jealous right now, because the 2209WA looks very promissing. In euro countries like The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and France Dell charges €418($542) excl. shipping. All models are overpriced actually. Dell is really robbing us in the Euro countries.

I think it's your countries and the EU ripping you off with taxes.
 
I think it's your countries and the EU ripping you off with taxes.

Not entirely true. There is one company from Holland called Qsix.eu, which sells some Dells for prices way below the Dell prices. It even sells these models with extended 5 year premium panel warranty. For example, they sell the 2408wfp A01for €490 which compared to the €796,11 Dell charges is a bargain and a fairer price if you ask me. Unfortunately, they do not sell all models. They do not sell the 2209WA(yet) I believe they sell to abroad as well and via ebay under the name of supradictus. I post this for other Europeans who might be interested.
 
It does look sparkly... I feel like I need to wipe it off.

Also, as I write this... I've spotted one stuck pixel. :-/

To me the sparkle is only barely noticeable on white, and not noticeable on anything even a little bit darker than white.
 
Can anyone (who has one) make a comparison between the 2209wa and the 20wmgx2 (besides matte/glossy, screen size, and stand)? :)
 
My 2209wa came in.

I used spyder2pro and 2.05 gamma (2.2 is way too dark)
12brightness 100red 96green 100blue = 149cdm2 6500k
Sharpness set to 40 (it's a little too high at default)

The Bad
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Whoever is thinking "OOOH It's an IPS, I'm gonna buy it and it will have great colors without calibrating it", is gonna be disappointed. This monitor looks pretty crappy straight out of the box. Mine was 6100 kelvin when I tested it. After setting white point to 6500k, pre-calibration, the skin tones had some green/yellow in them and the gamma for the monitor is set too bright. After calibration they're better but still off. The colors on this thing post calibration are worse than the NEC 20wmgx2 with no calibration done to it.

For some reason I suspect these might be 6bit IPS panels. They don't really band much, if at all, but compared to an NEC or Apple IPS, things just don't seem like a normal IPS. Also there is no polarizer which is slightly annoying.

The black level is "ok" for an IPS but nothing to write home about. For games, the reactivity seems a little faster than a 5ms TN panel. The input lag is low (16ish).

Overall, E-IPS is definitely worse than H-IPS. It's a decent monitor but not a great one. Dunno if I'll keep or not. Here's post calibration picture, for some reason the picture makes the monitor looks like it has much higher contrast ratio than it realy does. Overall, the black level really doesn't look that good due to lack of polarizer. With a polarizer the panel would probably have a lot less glow to it and look way better:

96cj1k.jpg
 
My 2209wa came in.
I used spyder2pro and 2.05 gamma (2.2 is way too dark)
12brightness 100red 96green 100blue = 149cdm2 6500k
Sharpness set to 40 (it's a little too high at default)

Since you have a calibration device. What are you reading for contrast and black level?

I think expecting the A-TW polarizer at this price level is a bit much. It is priced similar to a TN screen and I think it is certainly better than that.

If there had been a 24" inch 19x12 version of this it probably would have saved me a ton of money.
 
"My 2209wa came in.

I used spyder2pro and 2.05 gamma (2.2 is way too dark)
12brightness 100red 96green 100blue = 149cdm2 6500k
Sharpness set to 40 (it's a little too high at default)"

I was just going to post if anyone had any decent settings to set the monitor too so I'm glad you posted this. At these setting you have it set too are you finding them decent settings? Did you set the contrast down at all? I must say, i'm a little surprised by the brightness level going down to 12!

To all the other owners of this monitor, what are you guys setting your monitors to?

The only thing I've done so far is lower the brightness down to 50 from 75.

One last thing, I don't think people should expect this monitor to be the end all be all because I don't think the perfect monitor exists out there. If you can get it at a $200 price point though it was hard for me to pass up.
 
I was just going to post if anyone had any decent settings to set the monitor too so I'm glad you posted this.

Still experimenting with mine so dunno yet. I think 2.05 gamma was too bright, gonna go back to 2.10 or so. At 2.2, it definitely brings the black crush on.
 
I'm coming from an acer AL2223W.. so this monitor seems to be a step up, even with the 1 dead pixel. I agree with the above post about the picture not looking so great out of the box.
 
I've tried reaching Marcus for the last couple of days but only get voicemail. I've spoken with another couple of reps who said that the monitor didn't come up in their system (?) and had to get it added in. One rep quoted me the MSRP and said it could not be adjusted because it is a new product.

Does it sound like the deal is dead? I hope not, since this monitor was my only chance to get a non-TN panel on my budget...

If anyone else has had any success with this recently, ie, this week, please post (especially if you have the extension for the person who helped you).

Thanks!
 
One thing's for sure is that there's no pink hue at angles.
Pic

2209WA on Left and 2005FPW on Right.

So far, changed color temp to custom (left colors at 100) and brightness to 50ish.
 
So whats the final consensus? Better than TN, better then PVA, but definitely not S-IPS quality?
Its definitely 8-bit? Good deal or should I go for a 22" pva monitor? Color is important to me. Right now i'm on a 17" pva panel.
 
Shoot, just got off the chat lines with Dell. They won't offer more than 5% off now. Earlier today they offered me 10% off, but they won't do it now even though I have a chat transcript showing it.

Online sales chat isn't going to do anything. I'll have to call in and give it a shot.
 
My 2209wa came in.

I used spyder2pro and 2.05 gamma (2.2 is way too dark)
12brightness 100red 96green 100blue = 149cdm2 6500k
Sharpness set to 40 (it's a little too high at default)

The Bad
-------------

Whoever is thinking "OOOH It's an IPS, I'm gonna buy it and it will have great colors without calibrating it", is gonna be disappointed. This monitor looks pretty crappy straight out of the box. Mine was 6100 kelvin when I tested it. After setting white point to 6500k, pre-calibration, the skin tones had some green/yellow in them and the gamma for the monitor is set too bright. After calibration they're better but still off. The colors on this thing post calibration are worse than the NEC 20wmgx2 with no calibration done to it.

For some reason I suspect these might be 6bit IPS panels. They don't really band much, if at all, but compared to an NEC or Apple IPS, things just don't seem like a normal IPS. Also there is no polarizer which is slightly annoying.

The black level is "ok" for an IPS but nothing to write home about. For games, the reactivity seems a little faster than a 5ms TN panel. The input lag is low (16ish).

Overall, E-IPS is definitely worse than H-IPS. It's a decent monitor but not a great one. Dunno if I'll keep or not. Here's post calibration picture, for some reason the picture makes the monitor looks like it has much higher contrast ratio than it realy does. Overall, the black level really doesn't look that good due to lack of polarizer. With a polarizer the panel would probably have a lot less glow to it and look way better:

96cj1k.jpg

Yeah there's pretty much no way it's 6-bit, there is no banding/dithering in scenes where there obviously was on my 6-bit TN.

You seem anxious to trash this display so why don't you post one that's better, and comparable in price and size... if one even exists?

edit: remind me again what the MSRP of the smaller, 20" NEC was, by the way?
 
One thing's for sure is that there's no pink hue at angles.
Pic

2209WA on Left and 2005FPW on Right.

So far, changed color temp to custom (left colors at 100) and brightness to 50ish.

Is the grey glow due to the angle?

(Improvement looks massive compared to monitor with pink tinge...)
 
Yeah there's pretty much no way it's 6-bit, there is no banding/dithering in scenes where there obviously was on my 6-bit TN.

You seem anxious to trash this display so why don't you post one that's better, and comparable in price and size... if one even exists?

edit: remind me again what the MSRP of the smaller, 20" NEC was, by the way?

totally agree, nobody is expecting a 2490 here with a TN price. and many of us got it for $200 +tax
you know if one can't realize the price/performance ratio, it's best to ignore and move on....
 
How do you set the gamma on this thing? Id' like to reiterate if anyone would like to share their settings that would be great! I too much of a newb when setting up proper settings on a monitor.
 
Is the grey glow due to the angle?

(Improvement looks massive compared to monitor with pink tinge...)

Yes, the gray haze on the 2209WA is from the angle, as is the purple haze on the 2005FPW. At normal angles both are better, but I'd say the 2209WA is probably the better between the two.

totally agree, nobody is expecting a 2490 here with a TN price. and many of us got it for $200 +tax
you know if one can't realize the price/performance ratio, it's best to ignore and move on....

I'm no TN hater by any means, but the comparison between this and a TN should be like night and day methinks, especially when it comes to vertical viewing angles while sitting straight on, as well as when the viewer moves their head slightly.
 
How do you set the gamma on this thing? Id' like to reiterate if anyone would like to share their settings that would be great! I too much of a newb when setting up proper settings on a monitor.

I changed the gamma via the nVidia Control Panel
 
For some reason I suspect these might be 6bit IPS panels.
If you crank up the brightness really high and look at very dark pictures/patterns, do you see dithering? Sounds like I'll be hanging onto my 20wmgx2's for now. I wonder if LG's e-IPS model will be any better. Still, the 2209wa is what I'd get if I was buying new right now.
 
If you crank up the brightness really high and look at very dark pictures/patterns, do you see dithering? Sounds like I'll be hanging onto my 20wmgx2's for now. I wonder if LG's e-IPS model will be any better. Still, the 2209wa is what I'd get if I was buying new right now.

From 23" link:

Brightness is a tad low at 250 cd/m2 but definitely bright enough for LCD monitor work.

Interesting product, even if that author at displayblog maybe has fallen for the marketing hype that somehow has made 250 cd/m2 sound low...(assuming it's not being purchased for outdoor signage...)
 
You seem anxious to trash this display so why don't you post one that's better, and comparable in price and size... if one even exists?

Annoying fanboy post. The monitor is $300MSRP for a 22inch. That is a premium price for a 22, not some kind of fantastic deal. Assuming I had paid $299, then I would be expecting a superior image quality and performance to the top 22 inch panels and that is just not the case. This panel is probably pushing 750 contrast on a good day.

There's a 24inch LG wide gamut TN panel that measured 1389 contrast calibrated on prad ( http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2008/review-lg-w2452v-part12.html ). If a TN panel can get contrast ratio that high, you have to ask yourself, is this IPS panel and better viewing angles worth it for 1/2 the contrast ratio? The lack of polarizer kind of nulls the viewing point advantage significantly as well (probably also a big reason the subjective image quality is lower than normal IPS).

With my brightness at 149cdm2, due to lack of polarizer and average black levels, this panel kind of has that "glow in your face feel", like you're looking to a flashlight. With TN panels having good black levels, I don't get that.
 
Annoying fanboy post. The monitor is $300MSRP for a 22inch. That is a premium price for a 22, not some kind of fantastic deal. Assuming I had paid $299, then I would be expecting a superior image quality and performance to the top 22 inch panels and that is just not the case. This panel is probably pushing 750 contrast on a good day.

There's a 24inch LG wide gamut TN panel that measured 1389 contrast calibrated on prad ( http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2008/review-lg-w2452v-part12.html ). If a TN panel can get contrast ratio that high, you have to ask yourself, is this IPS panel and better viewing angles worth it for 1/2 the contrast ratio? The lack of polarizer kind of nulls the viewing point advantage significantly as well (probably also a big reason the subjective image quality is lower than normal IPS).

With my brightness at 149cdm2, due to lack of polarizer and average black levels, this panel kind of has that "glow in your face feel", like you're looking to a flashlight. With TN panels having good black levels, I don't get that.


Will the brightness (and black level) go lower?
 
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