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MMitch

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Thanks last posters for derailing the thread to personal bickering. You may now go back to your cave.
 

BrainEater

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If you're running Kali to practice your Mr Robot skillz..Fair enough.

But don't run Kali thinking it'll be a great desktop experience as I can assure you it will be horrible!
Yea , Kali is just what I have right now.I believe it's a KDE frontend.?
I'm looking at mint , but I'm a newb entering a vast forest.

Reward them for their shady behavior. Good job!
I'm not sure how refusing to pay is a reward for their appleware.
I 'll get the codec free.
And...... Microsoft pissed me off enough to actually start loading up Linux, and learning about it.

That's not a win for them.
 

AltTabbins

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Yea , Kali is just what I have right now.I believe it's a KDE frontend.?
I'm looking at mint , but I'm a newb entering a vast forest.
I like to think of Kali as a tool, not an operating system. Mint, Ubuntu, Manjaro, Fedora, Solus, etc are all much better choices as desktop operating systems. I would start with Mint. It was the first Linux Os that I liked when I was getting into Linux some 15 years ago. Ubuntu was too brown and earthy for me and I didn’t know how to theme at the time. Fedora was nice but lacked a lot that a new user would want. Mint was designed to be a good place to start for people getting into Linux. It offers everything you need and is offers enough where a lot of people just stick with it.
 

ChadD

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Linux only really has a handful of major base distros... but 100s of smaller distros based on those bases.
Debian, Red Hat, Suse, Arch those are the 4 biggest Linux base distros.

Debian can be used but most people would know Ubuntu which is a debian based distro... but many others like Mint are spun off Ubuntu. In many ways Ubuntu is seen as a core distro. Red hat makes Fedora which is their main user distro they test stuff there and use it in RHEL (Red hat enterprise linux) Centos is the free version of RHEL if you hear that around many companies use CentOS its basically RHEL with out the Red Hat support contract. Suse competes with RH and Ubuntu in the corp space and is very popular in the EU. For home users the produce OpenSuse Leap which is a very good distro as well. Arch is the one outlier as its base is not really used by any commercial distro packagers... its more of a Linux enthusiasts distro... having said that its built to be simple and reliable and its not as rare as people would believe to see arch being used as a base for custom server type uses. In any event Arch is not aimed at new users... however Manjaro is based on arch and is very much aimed at new users, its one of the more popular new user options right now.

My suggestion is.... look at
Manjaro
Mint
Ubuntu
OpenSuse Leap
Fedora

Pretty much in that order. My personal favorite distro is Manjaro I use it myself, I install it for new users... as long as they have decent internet connections. Manjaro is a rolling distro so it gets 600 MB - 1.5GB of updates every week depending on the week and how much software you have installed. (just remember its Linux not windows my weekly updates take like 3-4 min counting download like 30s-1min once the packages are on your system) Its not rolling in the way people complain about and no it doesn't break all the time. Manjaro takes the Rolling arch updates... and sits on them for most of the time 3-4 weeks. Testing them and skipping first versions. (In Linux and in general in FOSS software releases are things like 2.2-3 with 2.2 being the verison and the -3 being the bug/security patch number. Manjaro rarely installs any major packages that are 2.2-0 or 2.2-1 instead waiting a week or two for a couple bug fix patches to hit before upgrading) That caution means that in years I haven't had any show stopping bugs... I can only remember one that was a problem and the manjaro team rolled the package back the same day.

In any event grab a few.... don't worry about crazy amounts of research. Chances are you will install more then one distro... know that going in. Everyone does. Try a few. You might end up back on the first one you installed or you may find the 3 or 4 one clicks with you.

On the DE... same thing don't get stuck on researching them. All the DEs have their advantages. I am a Gnome lover... but every DE has its boosters.
One thing I might suggest is try Manjaro as one of your first installs... if for no other reason then its very easy to switch DEs as Manjaro/Arch are both very DE agnostic and all the packages for any of them are easily installed.

https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Install_Desktop_Environments

So you can install with XFCE or Gnome ect... and easily hit the terminal and install other DEs to check out. Running more then one DE can cause some issues depending which ones... but in general you can run a few and switch at login. Do it early so if you find one you love and want to do a 100% fresh install you won't mind starting over. :) Have fun.
 
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Tawnos

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It doesn't list anything about CPU requirements... it just says XBOX One or Windows 10.
True. I should have said "if you have a device where you already paid for the codec licensing fee. The OP had already paid for it by getting Windows 10 while Microsoft still paid for it, and that link is meant to be for those who have devices where the royalty has already been paid (whether by device manufacturer or software distributor). I don't know if there's any check for it, but the $1.30 or whatever that was causing the apoplectic start of this thread is because someone is supposed to be paying the royalty for the HEVC codec, which was eliminated for some things but not for others.
 

YeuEmMaiMai

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lol installed Windows 10 on new build and it failed to recognize 4TB hdd that was already formatted for NTFS and GPT. No worries partition assistant fixed it at the cost of my steam library
 

purezerg

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i do agree on macOS is ideal for video because of their ProRes codecs. and HEVC. I have seen a few macOS with 40 cores and 1tb of ram last year. they were mostly HP z8 with macOS. thats what most people are running in china. they do offline edit with macOS then they throw the rest to PC or black Apples as they call it in china. to do the color grading and stuff. that said. 265 or avid prores. FCP/MacOS has been too slow to catch up with hardware that most studios are now using PC. alexa rents per day for 75USD in china. red 8k rents for 250USD per day in china if i recall correctly. would you think people are still working on the trashbin? no. quick edits on FCP with offline edits downsize to 480p for MBP to work with in FCP.
the first hybrid MacOS i saw was 2 years ago. a dual 24core xeon with 1tb of ram.

I know things are different in the US. but ProRes not being supported on PC and HEVC not supported on PC. that codec is going to die. 60% of the video jobs now are requesting avid dnx. just 3 years ago, 80% of the jobs requested apple ProRes.

the masses that are using FCP for videos are usually those event videographers and wedding videographers that shoot on lumix GH5 and such.

then again, i am just reporting from china. =p.
 
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