sharknice
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Well it probably will technically be able to render games in 8k. It'll have enough RAM for the framebuffer and so on. So you probably will see a couple... that are low detail/complexity. I mean we are seeing more games these days that are 2d or use simple 3d graphics, particularly in the indy scene (which is on consoles now). So those would be perfectly possible to do in 8k at 60Hz. You saw the same shit in the PS3 days where there were a few games that actually rendered at 1080 because they were simplistic and it did support that. However that is going to be the rare exception. We'll see some more than will do 8k at 30 with tiling, because when properly done tiling cuts the needed render power in half. Then I'm sure the majority will render at 4k, or lower, and just get scaled up.
Particularly since 8k is damn near useless on a TV. You have to have a pretty big TV and be sitting reasonably close before 4k is really noticeable over 1080. You can certainly do it, and many people do, but many don't. If you are 12' away from a 50" TV the chances you notice any difference between 4k and 1080 are pretty minimal. It might look ever so slightly sharper with real crisp scenes. For an 8k TV that problem is just magnified. If you sit 6' away from your TV, it needs to be about 95" before 8k is really going to start to be noticeable. That's not going to be many people out there. Hence spending the rendering budget on getting 8k is not going to be very worth it, just do 4k and call it good.
8k is really a solution looking for a problem, or more accurately marketing BS to try and convince people they need new toys. It is just not needed in the vast, vast majority of living rooms. Better HDR, wider gamuts, better viewing angles, these things will all improve image in a way people can see, 8k will not. However companies want to sell new toys so expect to see 8k marketed.
But hey, if you want to drop $15,000 on Samsung's 65" Q900 (the only 8k TV I know of) and then sit like 4' away from it you'd be able to appreciate an 8k game... if one existed .
The whole X feet away at X inches is 100% wrong and based on bad science. It's been proven wrong by actual experiments. People with just average 20-20 vision can easily tell the difference between 1080p and 4k at much, much further distances. Even "retina" pixel density distances were proven wrong with participants picking the higher resolution display 100% of the time.
But yes there are definitely diminishing returns on resolution at this point and HDR, contrast, viewing angles, frame rate, etc can have much more noticeable improvements.