Windows Blue Update Leaks Out

snowcrash said:
I think I got it. Those who likes W8 must like iOS but for whatever reasons don't have a Mac. W8 basically gives them best of both worlds.
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Not so much that I like or even dislike iOS but, I do like having the best of both worlds in one package. :):cool:
 
This argument about operating systems is 100% necessary because so many opinions are swayed by the "no it isn't" and "yes it is" fighting over, of all things, a piece of software.
 
snowcrash said:
I think I got it. Those who likes W8 must like iOS but for whatever reasons don't have a Mac. W8 basically gives them best of both worlds.
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I could see were people with Bipolar Disorder would love it. You have Metro when you are too depressed to do actual work. Then you have desktop mode when you come up from your lows and need to actually get something done.
 
Put the Win7 interface in and call it done.

The internals are great. The face is something only Microsoft could love.
 
TechLarry said:
Put the Win7 interface in and call it done.

The internals are great. The face is something only Microsoft could love.
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Exactly but the win 8 fan boys won't even conceive that as a possibility...choice is good for those that want to keep Metro they can. That's all most of us ask. Freaking fan boys...
 
imho

doesnt take a retard to see that win8 is shit imho.

but

really takes a retard to say win8 is good.
 
i think microsoft is going to have to eventually give the people what they want as most companies are just now upgrading to windows 7 from xp. so win8 is a test to see if they can make this over sweeping change to the os and get the business world interested. as of now i have not seen businesses jumping on the windows 8 band wagon and i do not see many in the future.
 
kac77 said:
I could see were people with Bipolar Disorder would love it. You have Metro when you are too depressed to do actual work. Then you have desktop mode when you come up from your lows and need to actually get something done.
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So, you are clearly insecure and could use some help. :D Good luck. :)
 
ktk_ace said:
imho

doesnt take a retard to see that win8 is shit imho.

but

really takes a retard to say win8 is good.
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Cut with the using of that term already, it is demeaning to people who actually have physical/ mental disabilities. Of course, what do you care, right? :(
 
FWIW I currently use: winxp, win7, win8, win2k, osx, linux and unix... and have been using/building/programming computers since the early 80s (professionally since '01)

They all seem to work fine for their intended purpose. Of course they each have some issues here and there that needs a work-around.

I don't mind people getting passionate about an OS though, but I honestly don't get it. Does it keep you guys up at night or something? If so, have you tried going to the official forums and voicing your concerns or bug reports? Is there something you need help with maybe? Maybe some issues outside the OS are keeping you from fully enjoying your experiences in life and you feel the need to name call others with a different opinion?

Ok, take care folks. Again, hope it all works out for you...
 
Can anybody confirm ManofGod and Heatlesssun are actually paid to troll forums sticking up for Windows 8? Just check the Win 8 threads because I can't believe somebody not getting paid would sit here all day and night firing back at anybody who doesn't like Windows 8. Plus they tend to ignore the common sense arguments made against Win8 and pretty much troll the troller's. If your not getting paid wtf?
 
pcjunkie said:
Can anybody confirm ManofGod and Heatlesssun are actually paid to troll forums sticking up for Windows 8? Just check the Win 8 threads because I can't believe somebody not getting paid would sit here all day and night firing back at anybody who doesn't like Windows 8. Plus they tend to ignore the common sense arguments made against Win8 and pretty much troll the troller's. If your not getting paid wtf?
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*Lol* Nice attempt but try again. :D
 
pcjunkie said:
Can anybody confirm ManofGod and Heatlesssun are actually paid to troll forums sticking up for Windows 8? Just check the Win 8 threads because I can't believe somebody not getting paid would sit here all day and night firing back at anybody who doesn't like Windows 8. Plus they tend to ignore the common sense arguments made against Win8 and pretty much troll the troller's. If your not getting paid wtf?
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Oh, and common sense arguments can make sense, which yours apparently often are not. :p No, people just need to get over themselves and enjoy computers for what they are.

On the other hand, I still find that the Amiga was the best computer for it's time and was my all time favorite.
 
ManofGod said:
Cut with the using of that term already, it is demeaning to people who actually have physical/ mental disabilities.
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Have you ever asked a physically or mentally retarded person if the incorrect usage of the term is demeaning to them?
 
ManofGod said:
Oh, and common sense arguments can make sense, which yours apparently often are not. :p No, people just need to get over themselves and enjoy computers for what they are.

On the other hand, I still find that the Amiga was the best computer for it's time and was my all time favorite.
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Nice redirect...keep spamming this thread as Ive stated my reasons many times but you fan boys can't seem to grasp the obvious. Why can't you just enjoy your computer and stop worrying about what others think that disagree with you? The hypocrisy is overwhelming. :D
 
I love me some Windows 8. People have the right no to like it, but I don't hink anyone can deny that fact that it is a beter OS than 7. I love metro on my multimonitor setup, thogh I wouldn't as much on a single monitor. Still it's very similar to 7 in looks and feel, with some nice tweaks here and there. My upgrade went seamlessly, without needing to reinstall anyting and it logged me right back on my desstop with everything still working. It was just victim to inane badnwagonning. My programs have never been so easy to find, accessible and well organized as they are in metro. People are just resistant to change, I know I am. But since I got it for less than 40 bucks I'm glad I gave it a try. Still, if you have 7, there is no serious need to upgrade. And if you are on XP on a recent PC for perceived better functionality or corporate evil, well youre just being an idiot, and nothing you can say or do will make me see you otherwise.
 
ManofGod said:
Cut with the using of that term already, it is demeaning to people who actually have physical/ mental disabilities. Of course, what do you care, right? :(
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I fix it. Unfortunately it doesn't change the meaning.

ktk_ace said:
imho

doesnt take a mentally challenged person to see that Vista is shit imho.

but

really takes a mentally challenged person to say Vista is good.
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Also, I'm frigging awful at typing too fast when the boss is not looking XD
 
wgm3446 said:
Install Classic Shell and quit your QQ.
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I'd agree with that but what happens when a security update or service pack breaks the software or gosh forbid MS themselves decides to not allow those 3rd party programs anymore? We shouldn't have to count on 3rd party hacks or fight off narrow minded views like yours.
 
Classic shell is a decent application that is patched very quickly and a good enough forum support base. If it comes down to it, I can live a day or two without having the icon until a new patch is released. I've suggested it to co-workers and have been very happy since it was installed months ago. I haven't heard from them about any issues.

Again, it's all subjective as it's different for other people. I believe it's a pretty good architecture that it's built on with performance improvements. It's the UI I'm not a fan of, but if that can be circumvented with a small fix, then use it.
 
brucedeluxe169 said:
I actually run Win8 on my desktop, and it does indeed work quite well with a start menu replacement. I use start is back, which essentially hacks the windows 7 start menu into the UI, and allows the hot corners and charms bar to be disabled
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According to the MSFN, Blue completely rips out all remaining Start Menu code so that Start is Back and Start8 no longer work.
 
polonyc2 said:
I don't even understand what Windows Blue is supposed to mean...is it Windows 8 SP1?...very strange tactic from MS
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Yes. Its a cute name for SP1, done by the same group that's traditionally done the service packs - Windows 7 SP1, etc: Windows Sustained Engineering. Astroturfers will tell you otherwise but the primary objective here is a break from the traditional support cycle where a service pack extended the "supported until" date of the base O/S.

What brought this on? Essentially, they're tired of companies being able to run XP, Windows 7, etc for a decade or more.

And lets face it 'Windows Blue' is a lot more marketable than "Service Pack 1" since it generates press again.
 
bigdogchris said:
According to the MSFN, Blue completely rips out all remaining Start Menu code so that Start is Back and Start8 no longer work.
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Who didn't see this coming from a mile away. This has been my main problem when apologists claim "You have a million start menus to choose from now" -- they only exist as long as MS chooses to tolerate them. Because of the way replacements like StartIsBack hook to deprecated start menu code in explorer, all they needed to do was remove the remnants and it breaks them.

The noose will keep tightening and apologists will continue insisting "its good. you like this"
 
heatlesssun said:
How much do you want to bet that the average consumer when given a choice between Windows 8 and any other non-Windows OS on the desktop would pick Windows 8 by a wide margin?
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The true measure of Microsoft's success should be answered by a better question: "How much do you want to bet that the average consumer when given a choice between Windows 8 and any other Windows OS on the desktop would pick Win7, XP, even Vista (!!!) by a wide margin?".... ;)
 
ManofGod said:
So, you are clearly insecure and could use some help. :D Good luck. :)
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Actually I don't think it's clear at all. I don't cling to things that are clearly broken. I don't make excuses for any product I buy either. There's really nothing for me to feel insecure about.
 
Brent_Justice said:
Best video I've seen on Windows 8

http://youtu.be/WTYet-qf1jo
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This guy gets it.

I was defending Win8 when I started using it, but after some time I just got tired of the discontinuity of the UIs. It's like they took a Desktop OS and tried to merge it with an unfinished touch OS, and to join them together they crippled the Desktop OS more than they improved the Touch part. So you have a patchwork of a OS, which just sucks.

My cousin installed Win8 too and came to the same conclusion.
 
Also, why no AERO for god's sake? I have like... 16 colors to choose from (or something close to that), and that's it. WTF is this, Win95 on a Trident 9660? No, even that craptastic setup had 256 colors to choose from. Hell, IIRC, it supported even 16M colors!
 
So yeah, they are taking out any option even by 3rd parties for the start menu.

That will sooooooooooooo net them more customers and won't totally piss off those that had sucked it up and installed them...


PS: Fun lapsus mentis, i had wrote consumers instead of customers, and you know what? it is because they obviously wants us to be that, consumers, of content of whatever, but just that...
 
Meeho said:
For the love of god, can't there be ONE Win8 topic without your constant rehashing of the same and the same and the same...?! We get it! You love Win8, it's the best thing since sliced bread. The only thing more certain than Win8 bashing is your coming to the rescue. How much are they paying you, because I find it hard to believe anyone sane would be willing to spend so much time posting in every damn Win8 topic.
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Why do people keep repeating that Windows 8 can't be used for productivity as efficiently on the desktop as Windows 7? I understand that the new UI can be problematic for some but for many that are using the UI daily there's just not this barrier to desktop efficiency.
 
cdr_74_premium said:
Also, why no AERO for god's sake? I have like... 16 colors to choose from (or something close to that), and that's it. WTF is this, Win95 on a Trident 9660? No, even that craptastic setup had 256 colors to choose from. Hell, IIRC, it supported even 16M colors!
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I believe Windows 8 actually supports 281.5 trillion colors.
 
pcjunkie said:
There are millions upon millions upon millions of pc's out there and will be for a long long ime. Everytime somebody throws this out there I just have to laugh at the stupidity of the comment. that's not even bringing up business pc's. :rolleyes:
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But those millions and millions of PCs have already been sold. I'm talking about future sales and not many people are painting a pretty picture of that subject.
 
Revdarian said:
So yeah, they are taking out any option even by 3rd parties for the start menu.

That will sooooooooooooo net them more customers and won't totally piss off those that had sucked it up and installed them...


PS: Fun lapsus mentis, i had wrote consumers instead of customers, and you know what? it is because they obviously wants us to be that, consumers, of content of whatever, but just that...
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Well, that means I'll have to put 7 back again on my main rig today. I was happy with Classic Shell - even considering my taskbar was uglier thanks to NO AERO.

The problem is not that Win8 is unusable. The problem is that not only it brings no improvements on usability, they made it worse. It's usable, but why settle for that? Win7 is just better, period.
 
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