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First time im hearing about windows 7.............didnt vista just come out? did i miss something?
First time im hearing about windows 7.............didnt vista just come out? did i miss something?
Windows 7 won't be final until Q4 2009/Q1 2010 so that's not really a short period of time in the software world.
That was pretty much EVERYONE'S opinion. Nothing new here.this proves my prediction, that vista is just a bridging product
Holy cow, You may have some sort of software package or hardware/image configuration that costs more, but for $1100 I get the complete package with a monitor and everything...It's $1,100 where I work for a new machine. OS, Office, Oracle, etc and all the good stuff that goes along with getting a PC ordered. Not much labor to it with active directory... just log in on the new machine and let some scripts do the work.
Monitor not included.
This is key. Usually a company would support 2-3 versions of Windows.Luckily for them, they were able to buy XP machines during a 7 year span.
Same here. The users with attitudes generally put me in defensive mode immediately, and I rarely change my stance. If a user asks nicely and rationalizes their question, I'll tend to see what I can do to come up with a compromise.Most folks are willing to learn and are really nice about it when they ask for help. I enjoy helping them. Then there are those that always ask or actually demand for help with a fricking attitude. I can't stand those.
That was pretty much EVERYONE'S opinion. Nothing new here.
Holy cow, You may have some sort of software package or hardware/image configuration that costs more, but for $1100 I get the complete package with a monitor and everything...
Vista is over 2 years old, it was released to manufacturing in November 2006 and Windows 7 won't be final until Q4 2009/Q1 2010 so that's not really a short period of time in the software world.
These were requirements announced by Microsoft. We all know we need to least double or triple their requirements.
XP pro box says,
1.PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended
2.128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)
3.1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
4. Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
5. CD-ROM or DVD drive
Difference of 2000 and XP memory requirement was less than 32megs
MS announced for Windows 7
* 1GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
* 1GB of main memory
* 16GB of available disk space
* Support for DX9 graphics with 128MB of memory (for the Aero interface)
* A DVD-R/W drive
Difference of XP and Windows 7 memory requirement is 872 megs.
For home users, who cares...
Upgrade if you like if the new user interface justify a buying a new PC. People got money. PC is cheaper than ever. For corporations that have to buy 500 to 10,000 PCs, not including army of consultants of various billable hours from $40/hr to $150/hr, it is a no brainier decision to wait and upgrade later.
This isn't a bitching contest. This is about spending close to $3000 dollars per person (hardware, labor, contracts, extra apps). Something to think about. You will no longer able to purchase a XP machine at your local store starting 02/2009. Vista will be only choice for a while.
Shorter period of time compared to the 5 years of XP... 2001-2006
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/MainFeed.aspx
lol 'Server is too busy'
damnit I wanna know when the beta goes live
Shorter period of time compared to the 5 years of XP... 2001-2006
So would it be stupid of me to get Vista at this point? Putting together a new comp, and I have XP pro that I can use, but I actually like Vista more than XP. If 7 will be coming out shortly, maybe I should just stick with XP until then...
So would it be stupid of me to get Vista at this point? Putting together a new comp, and I have XP pro that I can use, but I actually like Vista more than XP. If 7 will be coming out shortly, maybe I should just stick with XP until then...
so we are doing 8 year differences now?
in that case Windows 3.1 only requires 2MB OF RAM!!! and windows 2000 used a whole 256MB OF RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
holy shit dude windows 2000 sucks ass, it used 64 times the amount of ram that something that came out 8 years before it. OBVIOUSLY it is a piece of shit.
also, windows 2000 required 256mb and was 4 times more than XP. sorry you are wrong.
P.s. 4 gigs of ram is 36 bucks.. how bout you dont go out to eat tomorrow night and buy some ram instead.
Exactly. We caught a break when Microsoft had to scrap Longhorn development and start over again, along with the multiple delays thereafter.XP's longevity spoiled a lot of users but it's anything but typical for operating systems
Awhile back I read that 7 will be free to people with Vista premium and Ultimate, is this true?
Awhile back I read that 7 will be free to people with Vista premium and Ultimate, is this true?
Holy crap, people... Look at it in percentages.
Windows 3.1 to Windows 2000:
40Mhz to 233Mhz CPU 582% Increase
640K to 64MB RAM 10000% Increase
10MB to 2GB Disk 20000% Increase
Windows XP to Windows Vista:
300Mhz to 1Ghz 333% Increase
128MB to 1GB RAM 800% Increase
1.5GB to 40GB Disk 2667% Increase
NOTHING NEW PEOPLE. XP to Vista is not near a big of jump as what all the Vista bashers make it out to be.
Heck, and for grins, here's Vista to Windows 7.
Windows Vista to Windows 7:
1Ghz to 1Ghz 0% Increase
1GB to 1GB RAM 0% Increase
40GB to 40GB Disk 0% Increase
Yea, it's so clear. Microsoft keeps adding bloatware and upping the system requirements
I'd agree, but it doesn't matter.Are you running Vista with 1gb ram? Running it with anything under 2gb ram is a b1tch!
I think we are talking about something different. My bad.
The training was all done by in house employees that were designated trainers that traveled from location to location.
Having a staff member to train isn't a good idea. I'm glad your company pulled it off. If the developers and system architects notes havent included into the lecture notes by a mistake from the last minute changes, someone is getting their ass ripped for the future loss productivity for the company. It is best to blame it on the 3rd party in case of a failure. There is a reason why experience PM would probably use a 3rd party firm. Usually during the largest project such as PC and server migrations, something will go wrong, such as under budgeting and the time line. The original budget usually never covers the initial deployment costs. Usually, if the numbers are too high, PM will be told to rework the spreadsheet. The number will be purposely set to very low, so the migration can proceed. There will crisis management and blame game to proceed. The political blame will take place. There is a good chance to fire one of the company during the process, so the IT director who hired the PM doesnt look bad. There is also a reason outsourced company will bring in scape goat contractors, who make over $75/hr and work 40hrs a week for the company. Probably only going to work 4months and probably cleared the middle class salary. This process will help them protect the outsourced firm from getting rid of the entire company during the migration. The negotiations for staying need to take place. PMs job will be make sure IT directors hands are clean. He hired him/her to manage consulting firms. You know the deal; dont bite the hand that feeds you. Migration is one of most difficult projects to manage for the larger corporations. It isnt a simple bait and switch. You also have to maintain the loss of productivity calculator, because someone will bring that up in the meeting. Different department leaders will yell, this is how you manage our funds. I thought you supposed to support us! Yea, that is why most PMs smoke and drink. You have to be smart enough to do head to head combat with a sysadmin and deal with nightmares from the department heads who are totally jealous you are billing certain amount of dollars. While they dont understand you are probably spending all those money on therapy. LOL. Migration for big companies are super bitching to the highway of HELL.
Are you running Vista with 1gb ram? Running it with anything under 2gb ram is a b1tch! That min. spec crap from MS is nothing but bull and we all know that by now. So doing that % thing is a bit misleading. Heck, I need 4gb ram on Vista just to be comfortable.
anyone try running some games with windows 7?? im trying to keep up with all the windows 7 posts but alot of pages to skim through. wonder if there is a slight increase in performance of vista . yes i know this is a beta build so things can change i was just curious how windows 7 games as of right now.
I already did a while ago...
You dolt.
You are running a beta OS in a VM and you have the audacity to complain about performance?
Where do you people come from? Cupertino?
Dude, don't feed the troll. Just add to iggy list like many have done around here.You dolt.
You are running a beta OS in a VM and you have the audacity to complain about performance?
Where do you people come from? Cupertino?
On-Topic.
I "unoficially" downloaded the Beta via a direct link from MS's servers, but Microsoft's Windows 7 webpage still lacks the "official" download link.
Just play around with it. Most of it is just performance enhancements, but the toolbar is a great new tool IMO.Coming from Vista x64..what are some things I should be noticing with 7? What new features should I try out?
Also, am dual booting and have all programs and games on a different partition. When I load into 7, can I use all the games installed on that partition?
Holy crap, people... Look at it in percentages.
Windows 3.1 to Windows 2000:
40Mhz to 233Mhz CPU 582% Increase
640K to 64MB RAM 10000% Increase
10MB to 2GB Disk 20000% Increase
Windows XP to Windows Vista:
300Mhz to 1Ghz 333% Increase
128MB to 1GB RAM 800% Increase
1.5GB to 40GB Disk 2667% Increase
NOTHING NEW PEOPLE. XP to Vista is not near a big of jump as what all the Vista bashers make it out to be.
Heck, and for grins, here's Vista to Windows 7.
Windows Vista to Windows 7:
1Ghz to 1Ghz 0% Increase
1GB to 1GB RAM 0% Increase
40GB to 40GB Disk 0% Increase
Yea, it's so clear. Microsoft keeps adding bloatware and upping the system requirements