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How to prove what you say has no worthThank you for proving my point.
You didnt make a valid point.
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How to prove what you say has no worthThank you for proving my point.
No, you just don't seem to have any idea how bugs actually "work".
Aren't they? So I can play all games and run all the apps I use, without windows? Why didn't you tell me before?
How can I put it that you'd understand? You changed the subject, therefore it is no longer the same analogy.
About MS can do no wrong.
How is a bug this serious slipping trough not a fault of QA? As I've said you're clearly in denial.
I'm not accusing any one person, I'm accusing the whole community of MS shills
How to prove what you say has no worth
You didnt make a valid point.
How to prove what you say has no worth
You didnt make a valid point.
First, it was user error. Whoever said otherwise was "hating".
I don't think it's win an argument 101, it's we never wanted to have to discuss it, as MS should be better at listening to their customers. They are horrible at it, and I did try to give that Dona lady a chance, but she's nothing but a cheerleader with the "hustle as a service" mantra. How about service that actually works?Some of us are out there dealing with the same users that you guys expect to be able to make regular backups, which they aren't, even though they're the demographic that's supposed to use Windows because it's eveywhere and easy. It was never about jumping to conclusions because Microsoft, it's more about being sore of their cavalier attitude towards any issues that surfaced since Windows 10. Go back on my post history and you'll see that I was quite happy with Windows 8 and 8.1, for example. I have no personal vendetta against Microsoft, but yes, they're being progressively more careless since Windows 10, which I loved when it was released, but got progressively worse IMO as time went by.
After the update was pulled and tons of evidence are everywhere, we're still on WinAnArgument101 around here. And we go back to our main concern: nobody cares about fixing the issues, it's all smoke, mirrors, and mob lynching. I honestly hope they get their act together, because Windows is necessary, people rely on it, and the frustration is growing.
nobody cares about fixing the issues, it's all smoke, mirrors, and mob lynching.
If people are going to use the cop out line "I want proof or it doesn't exist"
FFS are people here still carrying water for MS on this? Almost Apple fan boy retarded. Don't be that guy...
FFS are people here still carrying water for MS on this? Almost Apple fan boy retarded. Don't be that guy...
Not saying that it doesn't exist- although it's possible!- but more that your vacuous claims stemming from your naked hate of Microsoft is showing through.
Being offended doesn't make you right. Sorry, but you clearly demonstrate that you don't understand the nature and the handling of bugs in development.Ah, now you're getting personal!
Fair enough, but that doesn't mean I can't raise my voice against bad customer service.If you use Windows, you use it under the TOS. It's not a public service, no one is forced to use it, and there have always been alternatives. So no, no one is forced.
Which became bunk after you added an unnecessary change. Please don't make me explain the difference between your version and mine.Which is bunk, since the analogy was incomplete to begin with. I completed it to fully account for the application.
Not claimed, implied by whoever refuses to accept that QA at MS was a downhill slide ever since they switched to cumulative updates. And whoever refuses to accept MS's responsibility in loosing user files during an update.Claimed by who?
It happened during the update it is MS fault, it is that simple. You'd understand that if you understood the nature of bugs. Which I'm trying to explain to you, but you just act offended instead.We don't even know whether the bug was Microsoft's fault; it could be, but claiming that at this point is premature. That's basic logic.
I make a general accusation, and yes it was said here I'm sure but I can't be 100% certain by whom. If you think nobody ever defended windows 10's ui changes using that argument then say that, but this is just equivocation. It doesn't matter who said it as long as we agree it was said by someone.Your audience is the [H]ardforum. Making the accusation here implies accusing members. Name them or move on.
ramble ramble not MS fault.... has to be user fault.... edited by lexx
LOL! Guess if you are not carrying a pitch fork and headed towards Redmond.......
do we know what happened yet?
Microsoft doesn't care. Any customer big enough to touch their bottom line has the option to run LTSB or their own update servers and avoid these issues.
As far as they are concerned wiping all the data of a few thousand peons is probably cheaper than catching it in QA.
YES, Microsoft ignored reports by intelligent insiders of data loss and instead focused on the morons who upvoted comments for a "dark theme" and moar candy crush, And by doing so released a Service Pack for Windows 10 that deletes user data which they have since had to recall.do we know what happened yet?
- Addresses an issue affecting group policy expiration where an incorrect timing calculation may prematurely remove profiles on devices subject to the "Delete user profiles older than a specified number of day.”
YES, Microsoft ignored reports by intelligent insiders of data loss and instead focused on the morons who upvoted comments for a "dark theme" and moar candy crush, And by doing so released a Service Pack for Windows 10 that deletes user data which they have since had to recall.
This ain't rocket science.
Not sure what you are trying to say except stating the usual.YES, Microsoft ignored reports by intelligent insiders of data loss and instead focused on the morons who upvoted comments for a "dark theme" and moar candy crush, And by doing so released a Service Pack for Windows 10 that deletes user data which they have since had to recall.
This ain't rocket science.
That would only affect enterprise customers.New update today addresses this issue: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4464330/windows-10-update-kb4464330
Even worse, with many of the garbage computers sold today, you can't even add a second drive. I was going to put an SSD in my wife's new Dell and use the 1TB drive for all of her data files.
So I open it up and the power supply has only two wires. One going to the motherboard and one that splits in two for the hard drive and DVD drive. The motherboard has 4 SATA ports, but, there's no way to get power for any additional drives.
So I figured that I would disconnect the DVD drive, she never uses it anyway, and use that to power the SSD. I couldn't believe what I found. Both the hard drive and DVD drive have some sort of weird, non-standard power connector that's completely different from any drive I've ever seen.
WTF.. WTF. WTF. WTF.
Yeah, not entertaining the cost for that, nothing really critical that we can justify spending the 4+ figures it would cost.
I absolutely agree it's out of hand. I had another comment where I said the answer is easy, the Windows Update Service is denied read/write access to the Users folder, and that would be the end of it. I don't know why it would be touching that part of the drive anyway.every "computer" guy knows, but for consumers, i mean they are forcing these updates on their users!! you got to admit though this is getting out of hand.
if this is really a thing, apple's gonna have a field day. (and F**K apple)
Wrong.
You can use the slow ring ("Semi-Annual Channel") on the Pro edition, don't know or care about Home. That is what I normally use and would advise to anyone to use if they are afraid of the updates.
Backups are a good thing. Have some.
That would only affect enterprise customers.
(still a good bug to fix)
edit: or did I miss a report saying that only enterprise is affected by the OP issue?
Saw this the other day, makes me wonder what's going on at MS these days....
https://betanews.com/2018/10/08/win...ile-deletion-problem-to-microsoft-months-ago/
The problem of photos and documents getting deleted by the October 2018 Update -- aka Redstone 5 -- was identified and reported to Microsoft through the Feedback Hub months ago by multiple Insiders, but was not addressed.