kirbyrj
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I'm happy with my little 3600 for now. Obviously overkill with the CH8, but I plan on putting something else in there eventually (maybe a 3900X when someone upgrades to the 3950? ).
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Going from 4770k @ stock to 3700x you will see a big benefit. If you had your CPU heavily overclocked, you would be hard pushed to see a difference in single core. In multi-core, that's a different story, the extra cores are amazing.I'm thinking to upgrade from a 4770k @ stock. Is the 3700x really slower @ gaming? Ubuntu 19.04 with GTx 1070 but I may pick up a 3700x or 3900/3950x after the 3950x is out. May also pick up a 5700XT - undecided.
Going from 4770k @ stock to 3700x you will see a big benefit. If you had your CPU heavily overclocked, you would be hard pushed to see a difference in single core. In multi-core, that's a different story, the extra cores are amazing.
You would notice a big difference even with 3600x. Just ask gerardfraser
Well actually this is true,I notice difference over my Intel system in gaming.I even have benchmarks,funny for that.
Work post your DXMD benchmark with the same settings as I did,prove how great your intel system is.
There you go gerardfraser. Wish we had the same graphics though. It’s 1080Ti vs 2080 really.
Avg 73.3 FPS
Min 56.9 FPS
Max 92.2 FPS
1% 60 FPS
0.1% 58 FPS
Well my 1080TI's I owned were faster than my RTX 2080's cards I owned when overclocked.See Ryzen is good for gaming.
I tested DXMD on 1080TI on Intel system and AMD system just not with 3600X for both.
EG:Before improvements in Firestrike.GTX 1080TI faster post for compasion
Just for fun 2600X@4400Mhz RTX2080
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19267784
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Just for fun 2600X@4400Mhz GTX1080Ti
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16628258
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I'm thinking to upgrade from a 4770k @ stock. Is the 3700x really slower @ gaming? Ubuntu 19.04 with GTx 1070 but I may pick up a 3700x or 3900/3950x after the 3950x is out. May also pick up a 5700XT - undecided.
To off topic now ,I will not be replying anymore in this thread.Write any shit you want,I will not even read this thread anymore.
I'm thinking to upgrade from a 4770k @ stock. Is the 3700x really slower @ gaming? Ubuntu 19.04 with GTx 1070 but I may pick up a 3700x or 3900/3950x after the 3950x is out. May also pick up a 5700XT - undecided.
Ryzen 3900x has 6% slower performance on average compared to 9900k in 36 games tested, no overclock needed. Is 3600x faster than that? Doubt it. The summary is on 7' 27'' mark.
Stock vs. stock, the 3700X would be faster in gaming than a 4770k, by a pretty decent margin. The 3700X is faster than the 7700k in gaming, too. Against the 8700k it's tough to tell. Roughly equivalent, from what I can tell from my deep dive into various reviews. It's slower than the 9700k and 9900k. OC to OC, still faster than a 7700k (and by extension, a 4770k), but loses to 8700k.
6% isn't significant enough to recommend a hotter, less efficient and overall slower processor. I wish this meme would die
I'm currently playing at 1080p/144hz. Still true?
Watched ht benchmark part and I have not played this game but it looks good.I tried to sell RTX 2080 card for 5700XT version for two weeks and I could not sell it.I have to get my ass out to the store and buy 5700XT but not the blower style.
How is the noise on the 5700 with I assume the CPU stock cooler on 3600.
I'm currently playing at 1080p/144hz. Still true?
6% isn't significant enough to recommend a hotter, less efficient and overall slower processor. I wish this meme would die
Never could fix the issue with the GPU fans ramping up at start up, even with the new BIOS (5.50) for my ASRock X370 Killer SLI/AC with Ryzen 3700X. Looks like these BIOS don't work well with older generation Ryzens as well, so sounds like I'll just have to deal with it. Kind of disappointing to go for a quiet PC build only for the GPU to run obscenely loud during restarts/boots.
Aside from that, it looks good. Any basic tips for running PBO? I simply enabled it in my BIOS without changing any other values. Was running stock previously. Will check some game benchmarks and see if my setup will benefit from it.
Is that really an issue lol? The x299 systems I had did the same thing. They quite down before windows even load.Never could fix the issue with the GPU fans ramping up at start up, even with the new BIOS (5.50) for my ASRock X370 Killer SLI/AC with Ryzen 3700X. Looks like these BIOS don't work well with older generation Ryzens as well, so sounds like I'll just have to deal with it. Kind of disappointing to go for a quiet PC build only for the GPU to run obscenely loud during restarts/boots.
Aside from that, it looks good. Any basic tips for running PBO? I simply enabled it in my BIOS without changing any other values. Was running stock previously. Will check some game benchmarks and see if my setup will benefit from it.
compiling performance from my 1800x to my 3900x with no software or hardware changes other than the motherboard and cpu (went from x370 to x570) halved compile times on multiple large projects.
Very happy with the 3900x. idle temps are below 30c ...which is also lower than my 1800x @ 75f ambient. Water cooling is certainly needed for sustained 4.2Ghz all core load. And even that really needs the 360mm aio's or a custom loop with a much more powerful water pump than aio's have. My 280mm aio tops out in the 70c's with sustained full load. I'd prefer to see those temps in the 60's but I really dont want to have 4 fans on the heatercore making it sound like a vacuum.
That being said, it is extremely stable it seems even with such huge (nearly 50C) temperature swings. I'd suggest 360mm though if you're buying a whole new setup. At the very least it offers more volume to smooth out and absorb short temp spikes. 280 aio's behave more like heatpipes than traditional water cooling.
I'm happy with my little 3600 for now. Obviously overkill with the CH8, but I plan on putting something else in there eventually (maybe a 3900X when someone upgrades to the 3950? ).
I'm actually thinking about doing the same, 3600 + CH8. From what I can see, there's nothing in it when it comes to gaming performance between the 3600, 3600x, 3700x and the 3900x.
I don't do any production workloads. So it feels like the 3600 (non x) makes most sense.
I'm currently playing at 1080p/144hz. Still true?
6 core/12 thread isn't enough cores for me to upgrade. This is a Linux box.Intel is just plug and play it will work from go with high refresh gaming. The bare minimum you should consider is an 8700k.
If you go Ryzen 3, you'll need to tinker/tune your memory to get Intel platform performance. If you do that, yes, you can do 1080p high refresh with a 3600. If you *don't* tune your memory, you wont get there for less than $400 (reliably).
try this. Use an offset for voltage. I run PBO but a .0750 offset which helps alot with temps. Also if your chip is not under volting at idle grab the latest chipset drivers and install. Choose power plan as Ryzen balancedI've been very happy with my performance upgrade from a Ryzen 1600 to the new 3600. I just hope MSI drops a new bios soon that maybe drops voltages a bit. With no PBO running handbrake I am hitting 85c with a Be Quiet Pure Rock Slim cooler. I know it's not a monster cooler but it's rated for 120 watt TDP so I was hoping it would do a little better.
echo this. Hell a nice 125-150$ b450 is aI mean you can get something cheaper like an older B450/X470 board and have the same experience. I sold off all my stuff so I didn't have a board and went big. I mean it's a $380 board. You can "get by" with one $200-250 cheaper and wouldn't notice the difference.
try this. Use an offset for voltage. I run PBO but a .0750 offset which helps alot with temps. Also if your chip is not under volting at idle grab the latest chipset drivers and install. Choose power plan as Ryzen balanced
I mean you can get something cheaper like an older B450/X470 board and have the same experience. I sold off all my stuff so I didn't have a board and went big. I mean it's a $380 board. You can "get by" with one $200-250 cheaper and wouldn't notice the difference.