There is not really much i can say, see for yourselves.
http://www.obr-hardware.com/2012/09/preview-amd-fx-8350-piledriver-last.html
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Well, since i only care about x264 encoding, it's not THAT bad. But i imagine for all the other gamers here, it will be disappointment. I am also curious to see power consumption. I wish there was a 95W version! Then i 'd surely get it.
Pricing will now be crucial. If they insist on unrealistic prices, i think i will keep my 1090t.
agreed.
was hoping to replace my 1100, the cinebench 11.5 result on the 8350 are about the same as my x6 @ 4Ghz. the single threaded test is still worse (8350: 1.07 vs 1100: 1.20 - @4GHz).
if the bench tests is to be believed, either the MB bios or CPU needs a bit more work as the original tester said the system has stability issues.
i think come release time, the factors that will decide if i purchase is price, OC'ing headroom & power consumption.
I found the most interesting thing about that was the "Funny Slide" part. I am perplexed at why AMD would bother with that crap.
Edit: To me on one hand the improvement in multithreaded applications looks good however how much is that a result of the higher stock speed?
I predict the overall response will be "wait for steamroller" ;-)
Unfortunately i think there is no dedicated steamroller based desktop CPU.
Only APU.
If you read some articles online, AMD may be moving towards having an APU-only lineup from APU to FX to Opteron chips. Again, that's all rumors right now and nothing set in stone.)
I predict the overall response will be "wait for steamroller" ;-)
..... I really hope something happens to shake the high end out of the lull it is in.
Yup... It's called Haswell....
Keep dreaming Haswell is another GPU-focused architecture. With the exception of the ISAs, we're seeing another 10% performance bump.
I don't understand the sentiment, though. Who in their right mind doesn't have enough CPU power? If you feel you don't then there's the 2011 socket option there. For people who are running workstations then they don't mind splurging 1.5k on a platform. Likewise, neither do serious gamers who spend over a grand on their GPUs and another grand on monitors anyway.
If Intel and AMD kept pandering to the small and insatiable minority (read us) they'd have gone out of business years ago.
People who do serious number crunching. 2011 isn't that much of a step up. That is why F@H folks skip 2011 entirely and use 4p g34 servers...because for the dollar and Watt, 2011 is pretty sucky in performance.
I don't disagree, but Intel didn't introduce the platform for the average consumer. The 2011 platform is just the server mobo-and-chips with higher frequencies and cheaper price tag minus some features. If you're looking for the best performing chips then 1155 isn't for you. They do incredibly well for an overwhelming majority of desktop users and the fact that they do speaks volumes to the workloads (and unoptimized software) that we encounter on a daily basis. If a laptop chip with a useless on-die GPU can get such great acclaim then it shows just why Intel and AMD aren't bothering catering to the enthusiast.
AMD is smart in pulling out of the desktop race. It sucks for prices, sure, but they're in the business of making money and not appeasing the unappeasable.
Even 1155 chips are great buys for price/performance in number crunching. They aren't the best performing but from a bang for the buck measurement they have been a homerun
Nothing wrong with all AMD cpu's going to have graphics. Don't use the gpu if you don't want to. Intel has i5 and i7 cpu's with the onboard gpu.Maybe AMD will also have a model that has it disabled if you want.
I don't really care about Pile drivers Stock Performance. I want to see how it overclocks.
I don't see them giving up no idea where that came from.
AMD are working on the predictions, and they should OC better with the new process/die shrink. I would hope SR is AM3+..if it is some might wait for this.
markpaper;1039103120 The performance is not there as we have seen in the benchmark. If you just want an under performing cpu just to clock it to gain some speed and to consume much more power, i cant see the logic in that.
What benchmarks? These from some random Chinese guy nobody knows? Also please provide some proof on power consumption for Vishera since you seem to know it's power consumption when overclocking.
So now i am getting attacked?
The link i found and provided here at HF is as it is. You are free to make whatever you want out of these benches.
These benches are not mine. "If it was my preview", i wouldn't of given a link, i would just post the results in here directly.
You seemed to take these results as proof. Also you talk of power draw when overclocking when there is no numbers yet on power draw.
You seemed to take these results as proof. Also you talk of power draw when overclocking when there is no numbers yet on power draw.
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Anyways to be on topic, these benchmarks can be taken with a grain of salt. Guy clearly isn't very serious about his benchmarks or writing for that matter. More likely to be a Intel Troll than anything else. Not saying these benchmarks are fake by any means. Most reviews are not biased to a certain company, and always try and point out the positives, while also making people aware of the negatives. This guy simply says this thing sucks. Yet for all intensive purposes these chips could cost 100$, then it would be great. .....
This is the same guy that posted leaked benches of BD ES, and basically said the same thing: IT SUCKED ASS!!! Everybody jumped on him for being a troll and trying to smear AMD's name...