lazz
Limp Gawd
- Joined
- Apr 15, 2007
- Messages
- 324
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
While its performance certainly leaves a lot to be desired, if you compare Freesync Display + Vega to G-sync Display + Geforce the story isn't quite as bleak for AMD.Quite the same in plenty of places. The MSRP for Vega cards was pretty much bogus. Also AIBs seems to drop all plans of custom cards.
https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-says-no-to-custom-radeon-rx-vega-64
Even at a premium AMD retailer like Mindfactory 1080 can be found cheaper than Vega 56.
Vega is just a plain disaster on all fronts. Price, performance, power consumption.
While its performance certainly leaves a lot to be desired, if you compare Freesync Display + Vega to G-sync Display + Geforce the story isn't quite as bleak for AMD.
I negated to reflect the current 'silly' vega prices, at MSRP it would be different (but that isn't reality)Really? You can find the first 100€ just in price difference between Vega 64 and 1080 for example. Then you can find the rest plus more in quality difference on the screens and TCO.
Same applies for Vega 56 vs the upcoming 1070Ti.
Really? You can find the first 100€ just in price difference between Vega 64 and 1080 for example. Then you can find the rest plus more in quality difference on the screens and TCO.
Same applies for Vega 56 vs the upcoming 1070Ti.
I negated to reflect the current 'silly' vega prices, at MSRP it would be different (but that isn't reality)
What is Tco?
Total Cost of Ownership.
It's now being reported that 2 different manfactures will not make custom Vega boards because of supply issues with AMD. Gigabyte is one
Not in mining.... thats the only reason anybody would buy an AMD gpu anyway. For gaming its really not competitive except a couple random blips. you can tell this card was only designed for mining.Vega is just a plain disaster on all fronts. Price, performance, power consumption.
Not in mining.... thats the only reason anybody would buy an AMD gpu anyway. For gaming its really not competitive except a couple random blips. you can tell this card was only designed for mining.
mining "craze" minimizes it to being a temporary thing. It's not. I made insane amounts of cash on the backs of my 290x's. You don't seem to understand how long mining has actually be profitable. Mining has been quite profitable since around the time the 6950's were king. Perhaps you only hear about it when the profits and ROI's are at bubble levels. There's continued to be profit to be made this entire time.You do know how long GPU development takes right? The mining craze wasn't even thought about when Vega was damn near finished. It is still a flop, and that's coming from someone who likes AMD, but thinking it was made for only mining is just silly
mining "craze" minimizes it to being a temporary thing. It's not. I made insane amounts of cash on the backs of my 290x's. You don't seem to understand how long mining has actually be profitable. Mining has been quite profitable since around the time the 6950's were king. Perhaps you only hear about it when the profits and ROI's are at bubble levels. There's continued to be profit to be made this entire time.
There are 1080's on Newegg for as low as $500, and Vega 56 still over priced is around $500 on there. That store you linked is price gouging.
Every Canadian retailer has priced the 56 at $749. Newegg.ca, NCIX, Canada Computers, MemEx.. All of them. It's the same everywhere.
Ah I did not realize it was a Canadian store, make sense now. Its closer to US cost with exchange rate difference, but still over priced.
Edit: I still think its crazy that the EVGA 1080 FTW card I purchased over a year ago right after it came out is still the same price, such a high demand for the NVIDIA card still.
Not in mining.... thats the only reason anybody would buy an AMD gpu anyway. For gaming its really not competitive except a couple random blips. you can tell this card was only designed for mining.
NewEgg.CA has 56 for $670
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131730
Um no, Nvidia has been absolute dog crap and the only reason I own any of their cards is: Mining ZEC or else it was the only option available for a Laptop capable of handling VMs and expanding to 64GB of ram
-Drivers have sucked since I got my laptop last year
-Gsync blew chunks and would drop me to 8 FPS if I played in a borderless window
-Witcher 3 had some issue where it would ghost his hair, I actually returned a monitor claiming their refresh rate was BS and noticed massive ghosting....was the 1070
-Drivers STILL suck, it's a couple of hours of effort to get more than 2 GPUs running on a board without one vanishing or Code 43 error
-1080 lowering power target...killed the card, figure that one out
-"Free Games" are NOT free, they are hardware locked so you cannot resell or gift them...awesome tactic oh and you are forced to sign up for geforce experience virus.
why, because they buy their product to use as they see fit, making $ mining is no different then playing games or using it to calculate other work related tasks, they "drive their car how they want because it is their damn car to be driving"m i n e r s should be shot and then shot again
There would be no reason to get the 56 over a 1080 at that price unless you just want AMD.
MemEx has been absolute garbage lately and price gouging, on 1080s as well
NewEgg.CA has 56 for $670
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131730
Um no, Nvidia has been absolute dog crap and the only reason I own any of their cards is: Mining ZEC or else it was the only option available for a Laptop capable of handling VMs and expanding to 64GB of ram
-Drivers have sucked since I got my laptop last year
-Gsync blew chunks and would drop me to 8 FPS if I played in a borderless window
-Witcher 3 had some issue where it would ghost his hair, I actually returned a monitor claiming their refresh rate was BS and noticed massive ghosting....was the 1070
-Drivers STILL suck, it's a couple of hours of effort to get more than 2 GPUs running on a board without one vanishing or Code 43 error
-1080 lowering power target...killed the card, figure that one out
-"Free Games" are NOT free, they are hardware locked so you cannot resell or gift them...awesome tactic oh and you are forced to sign up for geforce experience virus.
Couple of random blips? New DX12 and Vulkan games you mean? Unity does have Vulkan built in now and Forza might show us the future of games optimized for xbox one X, able to do 4k no issues is awesome.
Is it really a flop if they're able to sell every single card they can make? I was under the impression that prices are still high because people keep buying up all the supply. At least, from what I can find in my local area, they're all sold out everywhere, and even the Polaris cards are still ludicrously expensive.You do know how long GPU development takes right? The mining craze wasn't even thought about when Vega was damn near finished. It is still a flop, and that's coming from someone who likes AMD, but thinking it was made for only mining is just silly
Is it really a flop if they're able to sell every single card they can make? I was under the impression that prices are still high because people keep buying up all the supply. At least, from what I can find in my local area, they're all sold out everywhere, and even the Polaris cards are still ludicrously expensive.
Crypto-mining really killed the value proposition for Vega as a consumer product, but it seems like it does have some redeeming qualities in the industry space, both in terms of what it does for various workstation/render tasks, and cryptomining.
That's why you buy at MSRP.