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Well, they cannibalized their own card. No sense to buy one now.
Rebellion? more like a failed coup with that pricing
Plenty of reason to buy one if the $199 4GB 480 remains a myth.
videocard company said:"Sure we'll give you a card for MSRP of $199.*
(But our polished out connector will cost you $5 more. Our Fans $15 more. Our special shroud $20 more. Extra testing is $15. Our pretty packaging is $15)"
To be fair, Newegg is (when they're in stock) selling Sapphire's reference design RX 480s at MSRP, I can't speak for other retailers and IHVs. The Nitro is being sold for what sapphire suggested (well, $10 more for the 8GB OC). The problem is the people who buy them up and resell them at higher prices, IMO, not the people who set the original MSRP.
apparently if you're considering a 470 skip the sapphire version...
Why? he is Right.. this card at the actual price (179$) is a joke.. a flawless POS in comparison to the RX 480.. the RX 480 sells are only for miners which have the largest amount of those cards, and for people with ancient GPU looking to upgrade the aging of the good old 7950/280 7970/280X which it's already a vastly minority of the market.. once the GTX 1060 was launched it killed most of AMD sells except for those who have a brand loyalty and still buy AMD even for Side-grade.
This RX 470 card have even less market than the RX 480.. AMD is not going to win any market if they don't make Nvidia Guys jump the fence..
Dude what is that from? funny as hell! LOL
Sooner or latter the will fall in price to 149 where they should be at. (end of the year?) They be sweet values then! Me i can wait till the XFX RX480 DD 8GB hits $249 sale prices....I can wait lol
Looks like it belongs in Monty Python
This is a good ~ 170$ card, it's too expensive for what it offers though.
You know a few years ago I don't think there were that many custom AIB versions of low end cards with huge coolers. It's a new fad, "high end" features trickle down to low end parts kind of thing, but a 30$ premium on a 170$ card is silly.
So its AMD's fault for Newegg prices, got it.
Yes, actually.
I would like to hear the rationale behind that one, unless you're going to cite UK consumer laws, which don't apply here....
Newegg does not decide the prices of items freely. They negotiate with the AIB manufacturers, and they need to sell the cards under the conditions that the AIB manufacturers set. If one of MSI's video cards big selling point is a $10 advantage over the Asus model, then Newegg would screw up MSI's brand image by straying from that price: Newegg still has a little bit of a say in pricing, but this is discussed with the AIB manufacturer and agreed upon before an item ever goes on sale.
The AIB manufacturers, in turn, have similar agreements with AMD. a lot of handshaking goes down the line, and AMD's target price of course gets left behind by value-adds, but the final product price is very much in AMD's control.
Not to mention, short stock levels cause price gouging by private resellers, who have no agreement with anyone. Such stock levels are entirely in AMD control.
Looks like it belongs in Monty Python
Thats what I was thinking but I've watched them all, and can't remember that scene lol.
Plenty of reason to buy one if the $199 4GB 480 remains a myth.
Not a myth... I have 2 of them right here.
Not a myth... I have 2 of them right here.
You were also given an R9 Nano by AMD directly so.... not exactly the normal use-case?
At $149: Oh yeah, this card will dominate the market.
At $179: Meh.
EasyI would like to hear the rationale behind that one, unless you're going to cite UK consumer laws, which don't apply here....
That's not really an apple to apple comparison. This is a overclocked RX470 against a stock RX480. You can still overclock the RX480. Then numbers become meaningless.According to your own rules you are breaking rule #5
Rasterization methods employed by NVIDIA/AMD - David Kanter
Already you don't know what to do with yourself. When you are bitching about the price and can't say really anything more what are you doing here. Your argument holds no water you can't even explain why it is to expensive beside that it does not offer enough, your usual thread crapping style when you enter the AMD forums
Not really bad value for money.
Obey your own rules n00b!
That's not really an apple to apple comparison. This is a overclocked RX470 against a stock RX480. You can still overclock the RX480 and these numbers are meaningless.
It would make no sense that a 470 which is a cut down die can beat a 480 full die. That's like saying a 6950/7950 can beat a 6970/7970. Early on they were close, but later driver developments just extended the difference between them.
The argument was about the AIB card for $179. if you check AMD Radeon RX 470 - PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 470 Video Card Review
they gave it a gold award.
It is what you pay for rather then what you can do with it. It is also a different market where people not bound to overclock their card to begin with ,...
I do understand what you are saying. But I simply can't agree.
If Power color (and bravo to them for the pricing) can only release about 100 of these a year, then the value standpoint of the whole series is questionable. (Especially when custom cooling is showing no real benefit other than noise....You can crank the fan to 80%->100% on stock and maintain boost) (BTW: NVIDIA is just as guilty)
This is all marketing shenanigans and it pisses me off because it's deceptive. It's like waving a steak in front of a hungry dog and then telling him we are going to add A1 steak sauce to it for 50 bones more and he doesn't have an option not to get the A1.
Easy
AMD is the sole supplier. If they wanted to, they could give preference to AIB partners that keep their prices low. It wouldn't cost them a dime to do so as the price is the same no matter whom they sell to.
(Same is true for NVIDIA also)
I do understand what you are saying. But I simply can't agree.
If Power color (and bravo to them for the pricing) can only release about 100 of these a year, then the value standpoint of the whole series is questionable. (Especially when custom cooling is showing no real benefit other than noise....You can crank the fan to 80%->100% on stock and maintain boost) (BTW: NVIDIA is just as guilty)
This is all marketing shenanigans and it pisses me off because it's deceptive. It's like waving a steak in front of a hungry dog and then telling him we are going to add A1 steak sauce to it for 50 bones more and he doesn't have an option not to get the A1.
I could not see what you are suggesting with a low number, why would they not want to keep selling a "popular" product?
The HSF solution is only about noise since that seems to be drawback of Polaris hardly overclocks ...
Where does the deception part for you come from? It is a product only people on a budget would buy within certain goals for gaming if this was/is so deceptive how come [H] gave it such a good review if there was no value at all ........