The Radeon Rebellion Marches Forward with the Gamer-Optimized Radeon RX 470 GPU

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AMD today unveiled the new Radeon™ RX 470 GPU, which enables smooth and brilliant HD gaming, true asynchronous compute and support for high dynamic range (HDR) monitors. Supercharged with industry-leading support for low-overhead APIs, the Radeon RX 470 GPU delivers on the promise of uncompromised HD gaming with exceptional graphics performance and low power consumption. The Radeon RX 470 card provides an extraordinary value proposition to gamers around the world with an SEP starting at just $179 USD. Details of the new Radeon RX 470 graphics card and related technologies are available at AMD's new gamer-focused content portal, Radeon.com. The Radeon™ RX 470 dramatically outperforms the previous generationin gaming with its 32 compute units, 2048 stream processors, and up to 4.9 teraflops processing power, yet typical board power is just 120 watts. This produces outstanding gaming with greater than 60 fps at ultra-settings on a wide variety of the latest game titles.
 
$179 eh? Last minute ninja price increase? Better be the 8gb model.

They are no different than Nvidia if they seriously raised the MSRP last minute.
 
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I see these are up on newegg with prices for the 4gig going from 179.99 plus shipping to 209.99 plus shipping and an 8 gig for 239.99 plus shipping.

I still remember those salad days of when we thought these cards would be available for $150.
 
Hardware Canucks review. Looks almost like a 4GB RX 480 to me. It even beats the GTX 1060 under DX12 like the RX 480 and loses slightly under DX11. Wish they had run Doom under Vulkan though and used the newest AMD drivers. No overclocking in this review because of time limits. It stomped all over the GTX 960 and 970 in many tests.
The AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB Review
 
cageymaru said:
Hardware Canucks review. Looks almost like a 4GB RX 480 to me. It even beats the GTX 1060 under DX12 like the RX 480 and loses slightly under DX11. Wish they had run Doom under Vulkan though and used the newest AMD drivers. No overclocking in this review because of time limits. It stomped all over the GTX 960 and 970 in many tests.
The AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB Review
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[H] Made already a review but no GTX 1060 or RX 480 included

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Stock 480 does 21% better on TPU than stock 470. And 480 (4GB) only cost 11% more. The 470 is awful value for money.

Some 470 cards even cost more than 480 cards. LOL!
 
They turned this launch into a joke. A card that was supposed to be $149 is suddenly $30 more expensive. Since the RX 480 is selling so well they figured they would raise the price of 470. $30 is a big deal when you are talking under $200.
 
Rvenger said:
They turned this launch into a joke. A card that was supposed to be $149 is suddenly $30 more expensive. Since the RX 480 is selling so well they figured they would raise the price of 470. $30 is a big deal when you are talking under $200.
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Do you think mining has anything to do with this? Maybe Newegg wants to cash in again like they did years ago during the major buzz from mining.
 
Rvenger said:
They turned this launch into a joke. A card that was supposed to be $149 is suddenly $30 more expensive. Since the RX 480 is selling so well they figured they would raise the price of 470. $30 is a big deal when you are talking under $200.
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RX 480 isn't selling so well...

In terms of new cards, Nvidia is outselling AMD 8:1 if not more.

Polaris and the hype around it is nothing but a joke.
 
Shogon said:
Do you think mining has anything to do with this? Maybe Newegg wants to cash in again like they did years ago during the major buzz from mining.
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Does anyone know if the Manufacturer Suggested Retail price is still $149? Or did they change that?? I thought they made it official at $179 for the 4gb model.
 
Rvenger said:
NVM, not even arguing this.
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Because you would be proven wrong again?

GTX1060 (Released July 17th) 0.06% (+0.06%)
GTX1070 0.64% (+0.54%)
GTX1080 0.56% (+0.36%)
RX480 0.12% (+0.12%)

AMD lost installed base as well.
 
Daniel_Chang said:
Just...wow...

Ieldra, watch out, this guy is coming for your crown!
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Why? he is Right.. this card at the actual price (179$) is a joke.. a flawless POS in comparison to the RX 480.. the RX 480 sells are only for miners which have the largest amount of those cards, and for people with ancient GPU looking to upgrade the aging of the good old 7950/280 7970/280X which it's already a vastly minority of the market.. once the GTX 1060 was launched it killed most of AMD sells except for those who have a brand loyalty and still buy AMD even for Side-grade.

This RX 470 card have even less market than the RX 480.. AMD is not going to win any market if they don't make Nvidia Guys jump the fence..
 
Shintai said:
RX 480 isn't selling so well...

In terms of new cards, Nvidia is outselling AMD 8:1 if not more.

Polaris and the hype around it is nothing but a joke.
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The joke is your posts. You are using a month and a half head start and steam which isn't 100% accurate as absolute truth.
 
JustReason said:
The joke is your posts. You are using a month and a half head start and steam which isn't 100% accurate as absolute truth.
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No I am not. Monthly increase is in (). The only card that didn't show its full sales as such is the 1060 due to its release date.
 
JustReason said:
The joke is your posts. You are using a month and a half head start and steam which isn't 100% accurate as absolute truth.
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oh yes?. and where is gaming everyone out there in the world?.. Origin? Uplay?. people use steam even to play free games, steam have a weight as the largest platform for gaming.. you are so that butt-hurt'd with AMD being so inferior that even you say steam doesn't matter? damn.. you are the prove that fanboys have no limits.
 
And thanks for coming in here and turning this into an AMD vs Nvidia war. I am running out of places to hide when you keep following me around the forums. Do yourself a favor and put me on ignore. Thanks
 
Araxie said:
oh yes?. and where is gaming everyone out there in the world?.. Origin? Uplay?. people use steam even to play free games, steam have a weight as the largest platform for gaming.. you are so that butt-hurt'd with AMD being so inferior that even you say steam doesn't matter? damn.. you are the prove that fanboys have no limits.
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Listen you fn.... I said it isn't 100% accurate so it isn't useful as proof positive. It is good for an idea but really look at the %, we aren't talking 5s and 20s but less than 1. Also he made the claim 8 to 1 but steam doesn't count mining sales of sales at all really. So back the bias arrogant train up a bit.
 
If sellers are seeking miners then they'll increase prices cause they will get this over anything else on the market. As far as I can tell the 480 and 470 beat anything previous generation or nvidia has for mining.
 
The whole launch isn't a complete joke. Just certain parts but the bad parts are what paint the big picture. AMD had a great opportunity but has been botched so bad that history will again repeat itself.
 
This needs to be a 159$-169$ card. 179$ may only be 10$, but 20$ gets a 480 which is a better value. 30$ or 40$ it's an open field, but 20$ doesn't do it.
 
SighTurtle said:
If sellers are seeking miners then they'll increase prices cause they will get this over anything else on the market. As far as I can tell the 480 and 470 beat anything previous generation or nvidia has for mining.
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at mining a RX 480 perform a bit slower than R9 290X and slower than R9 390X but at half the power consumption so it's tradeoff that every big miner is willing to make. they aren't going to increase the hash/Rate but they are going to decrease electricity cost using the same amount of cards.. or have the possibility to use more cards and sustain the same power consumption in order to increase the hash/rate so indeed these 480 are highly valued by miners..
 
huh. Well, 8:30 am PST, I can't find any RX 470 cards in stock.

another "paper" launch. They shipped a few hundred cards to each retailer so it can't be called a paper launch.

oh well. I bought a used GTX 970.
 
Araxie said:
at mining a RX 480 perform a bit slower than R9 290X and slower than R9 390X but at half the power consumption so it's tradeoff that every big miner is willing to make. they aren't going to increase the hash/Rate but they are going to decrease electricity cost using the same amount of cards.. or have the possibility to use more cards and sustain the same power consumption in order to increase the hash/rate so indeed these 480 are highly valued by miners..
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If the RX 470 is indeed close to the 480 for mining, we may see miners split somewhat, either way more supply should free up the cards and hopefully lower demand.

J Macker said:
huh. Well, 8:30 am PST, I can't find any RX 470 cards in stock.

another "paper" launch. They shipped a few hundred cards to each retailer so it can't be called a paper launch.

oh well. I bought a used GTX 970.
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Isn't a paper launch when they launch the card and there's no cards in stock at all?
 
SighTurtle said:
If the RX 470 is indeed close to the 480 for mining, we may see miners split somewhat, either way more supply should free up the cards and hopefully lower demand.



Isn't a paper launch when they launch the card and there's no cards in stock at all?
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No, the card is out of stock due to high demand or low supply. that's nothing related to a paper launch, paper launch is when you LAUNCH a card without availability of that card, which still it's different from a product Announcement.. you can announce a product with a launch date and still not enter in the paper launch category.
 
Now AMD can only issue the msrp for the cards, at the end of the day it's retailers and AIBs who decide prices. Evidently they consider this 470 to be worth this much to someone. But not gamers I suspect. They have the 1060 to get.

Why the increases in pricing? Miners. It's got to be their demand driving the prices. Even if supply was low how many people actually choose AMD over Nvidia anyway? There is no reason sellers should be selling the cards higher than the 1060 yet they are.
 
IIRC, only AIB partners are making the RX 470 and RX 460 cards so while MSRP may be 149 USD (which I cannot confirm or deny at the moment) AIBs are welcome to charge what they think the market can bear and currently they apparently believe that 179 USD is bearable by the market (and I don't think they're too wrong about that).

With the stealth price increase of the RX 470 it does make me wonder how close to the announced 99 USD the RX 460 is actually going to be to retail availability.
 
I haven't been asked to submit my data for the August survey yet (if I ever will, sometimes it's months between prompts), and didn't have my card in early July when it prompted me. Take the survey results with a rather large grain of salt.
Edit: Anyway, the 480 is already at .05% on PCs with windows 10, just .03% ahead of the 1060. On DX11/10 systems the 1060 manages .03%, though, 480 still at .05%. The 480 doesn't compete with the 1070 or 1080 on performance or price, mentioning them is retarded.
I still wouldn't trust the results, though, for nvidia or amd.
 
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Saw this, probably a little more interesting next to the 480, 1060, and 970. Considering all these cards can be obtained for that $180-250 budget.
 
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