The Nintendo Switch 2 Thread

T4rd said:
New Switch 2 revision is out with a considerably larger battery (5200 mAh to 8000 mAh) and much easier repairability to meet the EU requirements.


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Not really worth trading for still unless there's also a considerable display upgrade. Otherwise I'm good until the inevitable OLED model comes in another year or two.
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It doesn't come with a larger battery. There are aftermarket replacements already avaliable.
 
T4rd said:
New Switch 2 revision is out with a considerably larger battery (5200 mAh to 8000 mAh) and much easier repairability to meet the EU requirements.


View: https://youtu.be/UBMMBdMDiuY?is=6onbHgu5xMqbbtR5

Not really worth trading for still unless there's also a considerable display upgrade. Otherwise I'm good until the inevitable OLED model comes in another year or two.
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Not available in the US market.
 
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Finally docked VRR, I thought they weren’t going to implement it since the output didn’t properly support it.
 
Pretty cool. It'll be interesting to see which games end up supporting it. Hopefully it isn't a feature that never really sees the light of day.
 
I'm curious if VRR is possible on 3rd party docks, I was thinking of getting a cheap Antank (sp?) as a secondary/travel dock.
 
Wow, didn’t think VRR docked was even possible, that’s a huge update. Wish that would have been ready when I did my requiem playthrough. My the biggest complaint of the switch 2 is now fixed.
 
It already had undocked VRR so maybe it just works in every game no patches required.
 
SeymourGore said:
I'm curious if VRR is possible on 3rd party docks, I was thinking of getting a cheap Antank (sp?) as a secondary/travel dock.
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Good question, because I'm looking for a travel dock as well. I'm guessing the 3rd party dock would have to be updated somehow though, because I just had to update my dock in addition to the Switch itself. Which I can't remember ever having to install an update to the dock itself before. So I'm sure that Dock update was to add support for VRR.
 
T4rd said:
Good question, because I'm looking for a travel dock as well. I'm guessing the 3rd party dock would have to be updated somehow though, because I just had to update my dock in addition to the Switch itself. Which I can't remember ever having to install an update to the dock itself before. So I'm sure that Dock update was to add support for VRR.
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Yes, this is why I thought we’d never get this update. I thought we’d need a new dock. I doubt third party docks will update like that.
 
Mchart said:
Yes, this is why I thought we’d never get this update. I thought we’d need a new dock. I doubt third party docks will update like that.
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I actually remember seeing one third party dock being able to be updated to support the Switch 2 after not initially working with it and only supporting the original Switch and other PC handhelds. I don't remember the brand, but if that's possible, then maybe they can do the game for VRR support if it doesn't already support that somehow.

Otherwise, I'm sure they'll have hardware revisions to support it now and hopefully able to buy them soon. Not really a huge deal for me though, as we mostly play simple multiplayer games when traveling and don't think VRR would be noticed or needed most of the time or even supported on most of the TVs we use.
 
GoldenTiger said:
Good grief, I didn't even know what this game was until I looked it up after seeing posts about it in this thread. Looks fun!

I have a backlog of switch and switch 2 games already though :eek: but this is now #2 on the "to buy" list whenever I see another free $10 Bestbuy gc in my email. I want yoshi and the mysterious book first. :) Then there's Star Fox and Ocarina of Time still...
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I'm such a consumer :p, just ordered all of these. They look too fun to pass up :D. I've never played a splatoon game before, hopefully I love raiders!
 
GoldenTiger said:
Game key cards are no different than a PS5 game without the full data on disk. The article is mainly talking about games with the data though and was why I linked it.
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Most PS5 games are on the disc FFS. CoD and yearly sports slop doesn't represent the majority of games.
 
vegeta535 said:
Most PS5 games are on the disc FFS. CoD and yearly sports slop doesn't represent the majority of games.
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Majority of Switch games are on the card, too. There are only something like 30-50 games out of hundreds on the Switch 2 that are key cards. All first party games are on the card
 
I try not to buy key cards for my switch 2. Fortunately Nintendo is actually releasing decent first party single player games, unlike Sony for the PS5. Games that are a key card are usually also on PC.
 
I have one key card for my Switch 2, which is Gear.Club Unlimited 3. If a real physical version of the game came out, I'd ditch the key card and get the physical version.
 
It could probably look like that on the switch 2 now, if it was optimized well. But I don't think they want to put that much money into that game, and that may not be the look they want anyway.

Nintendo is very particular about how they design and present their games, after all.
 
Domingo said:

View: https://youtu.be/FVe0LgPvh_0?si=-R5ti_uCWhraTKRG

I'm not advocating any kind of chicanery, but here's what Mario Kart could be like if Nintendo didn't insist on using underpowered hardware. That's using a 5060Ti and a nearly brand new emulator.
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I wouldn't call it underpowered. The goal was to make something that works well as a handheld, and even with native code you aren't going to get there with an RTX 50 chip and a CPU powerful enough to feed it. Certainly not at the $500 Nintendo is asking for its entire console.

Look at it this way: you can get an Intel Arc G3 handheld that should beat the Switch 2... if you're willing to pay hundreds more (an Acer Predator Atlas 8 is $1,300, for instance). But I doubt parents will drop $1K-plus just so that their children get ray-traced Mario Kart World.
 
Domingo said:

View: https://youtu.be/FVe0LgPvh_0?si=-R5ti_uCWhraTKRG

I'm not advocating any kind of chicanery, but here's what Mario Kart could be like if Nintendo didn't insist on using underpowered hardware. That's using a 5060Ti and a nearly brand new emulator.
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Please explain which 10-20W SoC could touch a 160W discrete GPU in terms of performance and how Nintendo was supposed to deliver this non-existent SoC anywhere near it's $500 price point. Even current $1200 portable PCs can't compete with the Switch 2 SoC at its handheld 10-12W profile while still lasting 2-3 hours on a charge. They have to be cranked to 20-35W while blasting their fans and dying in an hour or so.

If you think it should just be a traditional console without any handheld function, then you could possibly argue this. But that's a different argument altogether than just saying they should have used more powerful hardware. But I'd disagree with that idea anyways just based on Nintendo's crazy success of the Switch and Switch 2 even if I personally play it on docked mode on a TV mostly.
 
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T4rd said:
If you think it should just be a traditional console without any handheld function, then you could possibly argue this. But that's a different argument altogether than just saying they should have used more powerful hardware. But I'd disagree with that idea anyways just based on Nintendo's crazy success of the Switch and Switch 2 even if I personally play it on docked mode on a TV mostly.
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That's exactly what I want. The Switch is a weird hybrid console, but it's still a console and it's lagging way behind the other two when it comes to actual visual fidelity for games. It's been like that for 4 straight systems now. I don't want Nintendo's janky hardware, I want their games. I don't necessarily want the canned DLSS5 look this emulator is showcasing, but it's a snapshot of what could be if Nintendo's games were running on something that isn't having to walk the line between graphics and still being vaguely portable.
 
Domingo said:
That's exactly what I want. The Switch is a weird hybrid console, but it's still a console and it's lagging way behind the other two when it comes to actual visual fidelity for games. It's been like that for 4 straight systems now. I don't want Nintendo's janky hardware, I want their games. I don't necessarily want the canned DLSS5 look this emulator is showcasing, but it's a snapshot of what could be if Nintendo's games were running on something that isn't having to walk the line between graphics and still being vaguely portable.
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The Switch 2 is in a great place IMO. Nintendo games have always been about gameplay over graphics. I've had a lot of fun in the games I've played on the Switch 2 and the graphics are more than good enough for the type of gameplay they offer. If you care mostly about graphics and can't have fun in a game that doesn't have cutting edge graphics then you should just make peace with the fact that you are not in Nintendo 's target demographic.
 
evhvis said:
The Switch 2 is in a great place IMO. Nintendo games have always been about gameplay over graphics. I've had a lot of fun in the games I've played on the Switch 2 and the graphics are more than good enough for the type of gameplay they offer. If you care mostly about graphics and can't have fun in a game that doesn't have cutting edge graphics then you should just make peace with the fact that you are not in Nintendo 's target demographic.
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Agreed. I just bought a switch 2 for oot and starfox remakes. I'll pick up some other games as I feel like it. I have never bought an Xbox ever, and haven't bought a PlayStation since ps3. They have better graphics for sure but they don't have games that sell me on them that aren't coming to PC. Nintendo knows is audience and caters to them.

On the other hand, as I said in a thread somewhere here, I couldn't care less about portable gaming. My switch will not leave the docking station. I do wish Nintendo would make a version of the switch2(or future console if they continue on this path) that is not portable for a cheaper price, ie no screen, no detachable controller, no docking station. Maybe higher clock speeds and more ram that could handle higher resolution/ higher fps. Not cost effective I'm sure but one can wish.
 
I don't believe that graphics and fun/gameplay are mutually exclusive, and the Nintendo I grew up with was focused on having great visuals, too. The shift to only having last-gen graphics started with the Wii. I fully understand the business sense in what they're doing, but there are plenty of Nintendo games over the last 4 generations that could have benefitted from having more graphical horsepower. In particular, the ones I like. Mario Kart, Zelda, Smash, Metroid, etc. I won't even get into their competitive online viability, since that's even worse...and it's something that an emulator obviously isn't going to fix.
 
Domingo said:
That's exactly what I want. The Switch is a weird hybrid console, but it's still a console and it's lagging way behind the other two when it comes to actual visual fidelity for games. It's been like that for 4 straight systems now. I don't want Nintendo's janky hardware, I want their games. I don't necessarily want the canned DLSS5 look this emulator is showcasing, but it's a snapshot of what could be if Nintendo's games were running on something that isn't having to walk the line between graphics and still being vaguely portable.
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What? The console before the Switch was the Wii U, the last one Nintendo went all out on the hardware trying to compete directly with Microsoft and Sony, and it ended up being Nintendo's worst selling console.
 
Armenius said:
What? The console before the Switch was the Wii U, the last one Nintendo went all out on the hardware trying to compete directly with Microsoft and Sony, and it ended up being Nintendo's worst selling console.
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Wii U was a small factor with 1/5 the tflops of a PS4 and 1/12 its bandwidth with only 1/4 the ram i though. A PS4 was a different tier of performance completely....

Or those specs all wrong ?
https://versus.com/en/nintendo-wii-u-8gb-vs-sony-playstation-4
 
I enjoy the Switch 2, and definitely use it more than my old Switch 1 and it's all due to performance. 60fps with good image quality is what I want from a console and the Switch 2 can deliver that. However, 3rd party software I really have to research before purchasing for the Switch 2 and typically grab the Steam version to play on my ROG Ally and desktop. If Sony's next handheld ends up being a hybrid console, and offers QSSR to upscale and deliver 60 fps in docked mode - that would grab my atttention. However, if MS can do that with their next Xbox helix handheld *and* offer access to my Steam/GOG libraries - that would be a clear winner for me.

Armenius said:
Wii U was gen 7, not gen 8. It came out in 2012, so we're talking Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Xbox One and PlayStation 4 was 2014.
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Yeah, it was a pretty cool piece of tech with how tiny and powerful it was. I still have my console stored up in a closet in a bin with my old Dreamcast. I don't think I'll ever part with either console.
 
Armenius said:
Wii U was gen 7, not gen 8. It came out in 2012, so we're talking Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Xbox One and PlayStation 4 was 2014.
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PS3 was already 6 years old, xbox360 was 7 years old (that a full generation among of time), launching something for christmas 2012 that match the previous generation is really not going all out to match Sony-Microsoft (who had rumoured at the time 2013 consoles launch)
 
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