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Gawd
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Wait until they are autonomous, hacked and out of control. You won't even have time to step out of the way.
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So to hell with team drivers, then?
Where the fuck are the owners going to charge a bank of batteries sporting that kind of capacity in a relatively quick interval?
Diesel stations are literally everywhere.
Tesla semi truck "quick" charge stations are not.
$150K base price for ~300 miles range. The ~500 mile range option will be considerably more. There's speculation that tacking on a bunch of other options/equipment, and Tesla's new "savior" could push upwards of $400K per.
I, too, have friends (and family) in the OTR trucking field. See my previous response right above your quoted message.
That would be ideal but I thought these are built deep into the truck because... you know... lithium goes kinda of explody when it hits stuff.
Further the batterys would have their own heating and cooling system to ensure they maintain the non-explody state under normal operation which may be complicated to disconnect quickly.
I know your post is meant more as a joke, but in all seriousness they need to keep any sounds relatively consistent and unique to automobiles, for safety reasons.I've actually been wondering when after market auto accessory companies would be marketing sound systems to electrics (or really quiet ICE) to make cars sound different. Think of the DLC sound packs they could sell .... steam powered, turbine thruster, boat motor, indy car, etc.
Once upon a time there weren't any truck stops.
I imagine that the initial use for these will be local delivery trucks and LTL routes.
Lolwut. Have you never been to a truck stop? There are completely separate fuel lanes for four wheelers and big trucks.. They are usually even on completely opposite sides of the lot
$150,000+ while offering only 300-500 miles range between lengthy charges. Uh, good luck with that.
Plenty of short-haul routes can use this. Like, bottling companies for example.
Let me know when it can do 80k pounds in 5 sec
One time the truck pulled away from the dock while we were unloading it
If I was on the dock plate (forklift and all) and that happened abruptly, I'd have shit my pants.
Every Wal-Mart I've seen and delivered to had locking dock plates.
I wonder what's so hard to not notice the green and red status light?
Yes. Yes it will. This company cannot fail. Will never be allowed to fail. And the ball washers will continue telling everyone how great it is no matter what happens.Will it be considered a success if only a small handful of companies buy one each "to try it out for a year or two", resulting in segment-specific struggling sales to both Tesla's bottom line and investors?
Because the big rigs now will be able to get over before some jackass tries to block their lane change by accelerating to close the gap. I see that constantly here in Dallas on my commute. Would love to see the rig accelerate and block that asshole from doing that to them. Make that dildo in the hot car think twice.I don't see why benefit to marketing the trucks as fast acceleration vehicles other than to fill the newsfeeds with stuff that's irrelevant. Having slow acceleration trucks are probably safer for everyone.
I wonder how Musk can sleep during night, I mean he's involved in so many high risk projects that are like envitable to have some "media publicity disasters". We already had some self driving Tesla disasters but imagine when we get the first accident where Tesla truck driver killing someone (with focus on the trucks being so quick/relatively silent) or not to mention the whole Neuralink put chips in the brain scenario and the political & moral discussion it involves or ProjectX where he ultimately wants ordinary citizen to do space traveling in reusable rockets.
I mean what is there that can possibly go wrong here!? That man must love living life on the edge.
I can get you guys more up close pics of this if you want, all you gotta do is say please
All this. I have 2 cousins and an uncle that all own trucking companies (not 1 company, 3.)
The tesla, while neat. Will be a failure. #1, ain't nobody spending $150k for a daycab truck. #2, 300-500 mile range is worthless, especially for teams, and with the DOT rules, there are more and more team drivers. Therefore #3, they will only be good for local or in state use, see #1 for why that won't work.
I don't even see that as a problem, I see these things breaking down as a problem. What Tesla model series hasn't had issues when it released? You're already limited on who can work on a Tesla and is Tesla going to pay the owner lost income from the truck being down?
My buddy is a huge Tesla fan. Sucks it straight from the teat. He has a Model X, a Model 3, and a couple Power walls. Guess what happened to his Model 3 after 270 miles? It broke.
http://teslaweekly.com/first-model-...-tesla-engineers-on-their-way-to-investigate/
With trucks, you can't be using the customer base as beta testers. This can be ppl's livelihood on the line. I don't see any independent drivers touching these things.
It's not that expensive. I can afford a Model X, a Model 3, and a couple power walls. That's like $110k. I see some ppl complain about how much they cost, yet own two $50k+ SUVs.
Sure, it's not the cheapest thing out there, but I think many middle income families could afford it.
I don't even see that as a problem, I see these things breaking down as a problem. What Tesla model series hasn't had issues when it released? You're already limited on who can work on a Tesla and is Tesla going to pay the owner lost income from the truck being down?
My buddy is a huge Tesla fan. Sucks it straight from the teat. He has a Model X, a Model 3, and a couple Power walls. Guess what happened to his Model 3 after 270 miles? It broke.
http://teslaweekly.com/first-model-...-tesla-engineers-on-their-way-to-investigate/
With trucks, you can't be using the customer base as beta testers. This can be ppl's livelihood on the line. I don't see any independent drivers touching these things.
Well... he could have one of those 8 or 9 year auto loans instead of a normal 5. Also no telling what he might have paid as a down payment and simply forgot about that'd have to be well into the 30% or more range. But yeah... the idea of a "middle income" family just shrugging off $2k/mo in auto loans is laughable.I am not sure what you think is middle income then. Because thats nearly a 2k/month loan payment.
Well... he could have one of those 8 or 9 year auto loans instead of a normal 5. Also no telling what he might have paid as a down payment and simply forgot about that'd have to be well into the 30% or more range. But yeah... the idea of a "middle income" family just shrugging off $2k/mo in auto loans is laughable.
I am not sure what you think is middle income then. Because thats nearly a 2k/month loan payment.
these wouldn't work for independent drivers anyways since they pretty much run from one job to the next with the least amount of downtime possible. these big companies on the other hand can afford to be the beta testers while getting their discounted price where an independent driver would never get. either way the only way you'll know if there's issues is by using it in real world scenarios with normal people that make normal driving choices/mistakes.. i mean just with the trucks we drive at my work, we abuse the living hell out of them. there's no way you'll ever see a company do the same crap we do in a "testing" scenario.
Not for a base price of $150K plus the added start-up and carrying costs for charging stations, maint crew hiring/training for the new tech, extra battery packs, constrained delivery schedules and smaller service area due to shorter operating range, etc...I highly doubt they won't be widely and rapidly adopted for the substantial cost factor, and especially for local/day usage, at that.
Will it be considered a success if only a small handful of companies buy one each "to try it out for a year or two", resulting in segment-specific struggling sales to both Tesla's bottom line and investors?
I hope, for the sake of greatly reducing diesel and gas consumption in the world (just from semi-trucks, at that), that we do have a shift to electric in the very near future. But, realistically, the ranges need to substantially increase, the charge times need to decrease, and the cost needs to be much cheaper.
It will literally take the likes of Western Star, Mack, Peterbilt, International, Kenworth, Volvo USA, Freightliner, and other major truck makers to bring all-electric semi trucks to the market for that to happen.
Oh, and more nuke plants to keep up with the added load to the power infrastructure.
Oh, and more nuke plants to keep up with the added load to the power infrastructure.
This is a positive not a negative.
Yeah... they do offer loans that long but that's a horrible idea. It isn't like a home mortgage where the house can actually go up in value. By year 6 on any "normal" car or truck, you're likely going to owe more on the loan than the vehicle is worth, and still be years away from actually paying it off, nevermind stretching out the interest that long. That's the sort of trap car dealerships will use on people when they refuse to discuss totals but will happily "help you with your payment, let's get that payment down to something manageable, see isn't that such a better number every month?" when you're actually paying even more money for the vehicle.I didnt know they had 8 or 9 year ones. Wasnt offered that. I was only offered 5 and my credit is above 800. Interesting - I will have to look into that for my next truck.