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Teh Uber L33t Aqua-Computer Thread :)

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do u know when the airplex 240 and the grill be back in stock? i want to order some stuff this week. also do u think it will fit in a pc-65b?
 
flat4 said:
do u know when the airplex 240 and the grill be back in stock? i want to order some stuff this week. also do u think it will fit in a pc-65b?

The Airplex 240 I have right now but the grill neccessary for it is still in transit or currently backordered from Aqua-Computer. I'll have better availability information in the next 24 hours I hope. The 240mm radiator should work at the top but its going to be a tight fit like in Sick Rig. But....then again I have a water cooled power supply block that reduced the available room. :)

-Dan
 
Did anyone ever find a better price on that lian li PC6070 case? I need something a little bigger than my Sonata as I'm working on getting a 240 and Aquatube and the twinplex for GPU block.... $$$$...


Or is there any other recommended case for the aqua-computer products?
 
Damn, I forgot about that info.....

Seems like its going to come out to about what the other places are charging, I would suggest going with the place that offers it for $171 or so shipped.

-Dan
 
[S]nt|Mods said:
The Airplex 240 I have right now but the grill neccessary for it is still in transit or currently backordered from Aqua-Computer. I'll have better availability information in the next 24 hours I hope. The 240mm radiator should work at the top but its going to be a tight fit like in Sick Rig. But....then again I have a water cooled power supply block that reduced the available room. :)

-Dan
why is the airplex still on backorder? also is there any other grill that would work? if its not available?
 
Blame it on Customs for still not delivering my last large parcel and also blame it on the slow distribution channel that I have to deal with at the moment. Aqua-Computer is not a large company, they are pretty small in terms of employees, there are perhaps 6. SNT is run completely by me and I have been waiting to spend the money I currently have on another large order, I'm always waiting on them. It's almost never the other way around and Im working around the clock to make sure I can get this stuff imported safely for the general public. It just takes a little time. Take care! :)

-Dan
 
[S]nt|Mods said:
Damn, I forgot about that info.....

Seems like its going to come out to about what the other places are charging, I would suggest going with the place that offers it for $171 or so shipped.

-Dan

Thanks... hmm... $171 is still a little steep on what I 'd like to pay for a case.

If i can keep my grades up I may be using my refund check from the university to buy myself a little christmas present, and get a proper aqua-computer system :D
 
Hey Dan, could you supply me with some dimensions of the Evo 240? I know the Rad itself is 281mm X 130mm X 51mm but that doesn't tell me all I need to know. I'm trying to find out if I can top mount a dual rad to my case but, if I can, it's going to be TIGHT.

From the from of my case to the edge of my Power Supply it's 300mm. If you consider clearance for the ATX MB Power connection you are talking 220mm.

What I really need to know is:

a) at what measurement are the actual barbs? (i.e. center of barbs are at 270mm or 11mm from the edge and 12mm from each side)
b) what are the mounting mechanisms measurements for the external mounting option pieces.
c) using the external mount, do the fans mount flush against the Rad? I thought this was a bad idea, dead spot and all (i.e. need a shroud).
d) as an option, what are the barb measurements for the Evo 120?

TIA
 
There is a small gap between the radiator and the fans so a shroud is not necessary. You could top mount the radiator but keep in mind the barbs barely stick out below the radiator.

I will take some pictures of mine mounted so you can see how it comes together.
 
stumpy said:
Thanks... hmm... $171 is still a little steep on what I 'd like to pay for a case.

If i can keep my grades up I may be using my refund check from the university to buy myself a little christmas present, and get a proper aqua-computer system :D

thats really a good price i payed a more for mine, i did buy it when they came out though, the construction of this case is really and i mean really, good, a lot of details and everything fits perfect.
 
WarlordBB said:
Hey Dan, could you supply me with some dimensions of the Evo 240? I know the Rad itself is 281mm X 130mm X 51mm but that doesn't tell me all I need to know. I'm trying to find out if I can top mount a dual rad to my case but, if I can, it's going to be TIGHT.

From the from of my case to the edge of my Power Supply it's 300mm. If you consider clearance for the ATX MB Power connection you are talking 220mm.

What I really need to know is:

a) at what measurement are the actual barbs? (i.e. center of barbs are at 270mm or 11mm from the edge and 12mm from each side)
b) what are the mounting mechanisms measurements for the external mounting option pieces.
c) using the external mount, do the fans mount flush against the Rad? I thought this was a bad idea, dead spot and all (i.e. need a shroud).
d) as an option, what are the barb measurements for the Evo 120?

TIA

These are the correct measurements for the Ariplex Evo 240 available from my catalog info page:
264mm x 130mm x 50mm (10 7/16" x 5 1/8" x 1 31/32") frame, Straight Plug&Cool fittings extend 18mm (11/16") the length and 13mm (1/2") the depth.

The minimum space needed for the Airplex Evo 240 to be installed flush against a panel would come out to 282mm but this is way too close for much working room. I know because thats about the clearance that the top of my case allows.

When using the external mounting brackets with the Airplex Evo 240 the total length is increased to 315mm and 80mm in height.

The fans mount under the radiator and directly to the case and not the external brackets. I would guess at about 5mm (1/4") of space between the fan frames and the fins of the radiator.

And the correct measurements for the Airplex Evo 120:
168mm x 130mm x 50mm (6 5/8" x 5 1/8" x 1 31/32") frame, Straight Plug&Cool fittings extend 18mm (11/16") the length and 13mm (1/2") the depth.

If you need any more questions answered just ask. :)

-Dan
 
brand well product, and might not yet be released. I want one for my HTPC (home theater PC)
 
goalie81 said:
Dan-

do you have any more information on that AquaComputer external unit that is linked on the last page? Looks like something I would be interested in.

edit- direct link
http://aquacomputer.com/content/inarbeit.htm

The Hipersys has been in development for nearly 9 months now I believe but expect some more info on it and a possible release date within the next couple of months.

Look up to my previous post for answers concerning the Airplex Evo 240 and 120.

-Dan
 
Is it correct that plug and cool fittings can only be used with 6mm tubing? The more i look at this stuff the more i realize i don't know about it....
 
stumpy said:
Is it correct that plug and cool fittings can only be used with 6mm tubing? The more i look at this stuff the more i realize i don't know about it....

Yeah, it only works with that small tubing. You saw my tubing at QuakeCon, did you already forget its size? :D

-Dan
 
[S]nt|Mods said:
Yeah, it only works with that small tubing. You saw my tubing at QuakeCon, did you already forget its size? :D

-Dan

I knew what size it was, just didn't know if there was any way to adapt it for larger tubing. and just wanted to figure out if I"m going to have to stick with 3/8" / 10mm....
 
stumpy said:
I knew what size it was, just didn't know if there was any way to adapt it for larger tubing. and just wanted to figure out if I"m going to have to stick with 3/8" / 10mm....

I switched from 1/2" to 6mm. Plug and Cools are so much easier to use than barbs, but I hate barbs. I also hate fat tubing. Before I found Aqua Computer, I had wanted to buy 1/4" BSP to 3/8" barbs to use a Tank O Matic with my old setup, and after gawking at the Cuplex EVO for a week I figured that I'd just go ahead and use the 6mm Plug and Cools with the blocks instead of using the 3/8" stuff. I haven't noticed a huge difference between the tubing sizes so I really don't worry about that anymore.

For all the 1/4" threaded parts there are adaptors to 3/8" & 1/2". The 1/8" parts can only output to 3/8".
 
Dan,
Could someone use 7/16 ID tubing with A.C products? If so, would you have to do anything special to do so?
 
Pooky said:
I switched from 1/2" to 6mm. Plug and Cools are so much easier to use than barbs, but I hate barbs..

My Silver cuplex has the 10 mm barbs, so I'm kind of stuck with 10mm stuff right now. I don't really want to mess wtih adapters.
 
stumpy said:
My Silver cuplex has the 10 mm barbs, so I'm kind of stuck with 10mm stuff right now. I don't really want to mess wtih adapters.

The nice benefit is that soft and bendy hose is available. I'd love soft and flexible hose with Plug and Cools :(
 
Pooky said:
The nice benefit is that soft and bendy hose is available. I'd love soft and flexible hose with Plug and Cools :(

The 6mm tubing that Dan had at Quakecon on the sick rig looked pretty flexible... .but I didn't feel it... Is it Dan?
 
bellevegasj said:
Dan,
Could someone use 7/16 ID tubing with A.C products? If so, would you have to do anything special to do so?

7/16" ID is very close to 3/8" so it would be possible to use a clamp for your needs.

stumpy said:
The 6mm tubing that Dan had at Quakecon on the sick rig looked pretty flexible... .but I didn't feel it... Is it Dan?

Its flexible enough to loop a CPU and NB block in series but its not soft because it actually has to clamp well inside the fittings so it doesnt leak.

-Dan
 
I have a long bent loop to connect my pump to my Video Card block first since I keep it OC'd all the time, I only keep my CPU OC'd some of the time. The loop is almost a foot long too. After I config my Concast webby I'll post pics.
 
well since its been a few days i just want to know if u have anymore info about the 240 with the grill, if u know when your going to get it back in stock.
 
The best answer would be about 2 weeks from now, Aqua-Computer has apparently been very hard to get a hold of lately. :( Just keep checking in I suppose, the "lost" shipment just may fall out of the sky any day now. This is a joke of course but it's almost the truth, US Customs is worthless....

-Dan
 
right on. thats good its going to be about 2 weeks from now. because thats when i get paid so i will be able to order a few more things. :)
 
anymore news on the grills? i plan to order the rest of my stuff next week
 
I am getting the stuff shipped (early) next week from Germany, it should arrive within 6 days after that. Im getting far too many goodies. :)

-Dan
 
ahhh i guess i will have to wait a little bit longer. so how do i get my 10% off?
 
flat4 said:
ahhh i guess i will have to wait a little bit longer. so how do i get my 10% off?

Just create an account and then PM Dan and tell him your account name.
 
OK DAN.... I let the cat out of the bag in my Project Stackers page about the blocks haha. So no posting pics of the goodies before I do! :D

Incase anyone is wondering.... through the miracle of... um... begging, hounding, terrorizing, more begging... oh and NOT taking NO for an answer... (I hate it when people say no haha). Dan and I managed to convince Aqua Computer to cut me a Silver Cuplex Pro (woot), a Silver GPU Twinplex (woot woot), and a Silver Northbrodge Twinplex (woot woot woot).

Aqua-computer DOES offer the Cuplex 1.3 in silver. However, they do not offer any other blocks in silver. As far as we know, these will be the first ever silver cuts of those blocks HAHAHA. YEAY!

And before anyone says anything... Yes, I know its an overkill. But talk about your bling to the 3rd power ;)

OH and for everyones information, I will be reviewing these products, and comparing them to a Swiftech setup on the other identical test rig. :)

Major thanks to Dan for putting up with my unceasing emails and IM's. I'm sure both he and Aqua computer are totally SICK of me by now HAHA. They are probably cutting them for me just to shut me up.

I do notice dan has a note about the silver twinplex's on his www now, so if they do offer them in silver full-time, you know who to thank (and dan will hate me any time someone MENTIONS a silver waterblock now HAHA).
 
SelRahc your rig will be sweet with the silver blocks. I'm also curious to see how it compares to a similar Swiftech set up.

I moved from a 3/8 ID Swifty set up to a 6mm AlphaCool (NexXxus HP Pro and GPX GPU block) and Aqua-Computer Twinplex for my northbridge. Using the Eheim 1048 in both set-ups my temps dropped 2c using the low flow blocks.

How long is it going to take AC to make your blocks? Again, your set up is going to be sweet.
 
Nice to hear some news from you Selrach, I've been meaning to ask how everything's going with your new rig, but just been tied up with school... Can't wait to see those pics of the all silver blocks.
 
Thanks thanks. I don't have a good eta yet. I am hoping they should be ready in a week or so and ship out shortly after that.

As for the rigs, both are up and are testing... when i can that is. Darn hurricanes >.<

Heres the linkey to the work log: clickey
 
Hey folks ... I was told to post this here, so I could get more than just Dan's opinion on these questions.

I am new to watercooling, and I've been reading/researching for the past month or so. I'm about ready to purchase, but I haven't been able to figure out definitive answers to these questions yet, so I was hoping I could get some insight from some of the vetrans.

Here's my questions in regards to an Aquacomputer setup:

1. I would like a Plug and Cool setup - however, I'm somewhat concerned
with the fact that P&C is 1/4". What ramifications does this impose on
the ability of the Aquacomputer parts to adequately cool the system? How
does this affect overclocking? My desire is to fairly heavily overclock
an Athlon 64 and my x800 - how much of an effect is 1/4" going to be,
versus getting a 3/8", or possibly going with another vendor for 1/2"?

2. In regards to reservoirs. Is there any detriment for having more than
one? The tenative construction plan I have calls for 2 reservoirs - would
this cause a problem? Additionally, I like the Cape Corp Coolplex 25's -
however they are too long. I need something about 6" each. Can the
Coolplex be purchased in shorter lengths? Will it work with Plug and Cool
fittings? Can it be mounted horizontally? Can the plug and cool fittings be put onto a different acrylic reservoir that's shorter?

3. In regards to radiators. Is there a benefit or detriment to having
more than one radiator?

4. In regards to pumps - the Aquastream is the pump I want, but I have
concernes over it's ability to supply the system with adequate flow rates,
especially if the channel is constricted to 1/4". I plan on cooling an
x800, Athlon 64, Northbridge, possibly 2 hard drive and possibly a PSU.
Given the price of the pump, I'm somewhat reluctant at purchasing two, and
depending on what other components I will have in the case, room would be
a serious issue as well. Can you advise on whether or not this pump would
be adequate, as well as reccomend another 12v pump that would be, should
this one not be?

As an aside to that, is it hard to convert a 120v pump to a 12v pump? I'm
not opposed to wiring a pump directly to 120v, however, I would like the
pump to be in sync with the rest of the system, as well as being visually appealing, like the Aquastream.

I am very tempted to purchase a complete Aquacomputer setup (with the
exception of the reservoirs, because they won't integrate into my plans in
any way, sadly) - but I'm concerned over the possibility that it will not
be adequate to allow me to overclock my equipment enough. Any information
you can provide to that end with regards to Aquacomputer's components
would be greatly appreciated.
 
Inaba,

Nice post. I posted a similar thread recently. I am in the same dilema as you are. I want to go with an AC setup. I really like the look of the plug n cool fittings as well. I also want to use 2 res. (aquatubes) in my case in one loop, but I'm unsure of how to configure it. I want to go with just the aquastream pump, but I'm not sure if I need two.

I look forward to a reply concerning these issues.

I want to get these AC parts ordered already!! :D
 
Inaba said:
1. I would like a Plug and Cool setup - however, I'm somewhat concerned
with the fact that P&C is 1/4". What ramifications does this impose on
the ability of the Aquacomputer parts to adequately cool the system? How
does this affect overclocking? My desire is to fairly heavily overclock
an Athlon 64 and my x800 - how much of an effect is 1/4" going to be,
versus getting a 3/8", or possibly going with another vendor for 1/2"?

In my personal experience with the Plug&Cool fittings I have been able to overclock a P4 2.6c to 3.4 all nice and stable like without any overheating issues. I've had awesome results with an AquagrATIx on my 9800xt with overclocks on both the core and mem at 470/796. Since I have temp sensor mounted where they count on Sick Rig 001 I can say that a complete Aqua-Computer system can cool very well with the use of the P&C fittings instead of using larger tubing. My ambient temps as of right now are at 25* Celcius via the Aquaero's sensors. The Air Intake through the top mounted radiator is the same at 25* and the water temp is at 25.2*. The AMD A64-FX 53, according to MBM, is at 29-30* at idle. It warms up at full load of course but much higher on mine since I have a non stable Asus A8V rev 1 board.

I cant give you direct comparisons from other larger tubing systems but I can at least say that my conditions are ideal. There are others that will post for you over the next few days.

Inaba said:
2. In regards to reservoirs. Is there any detriment for having more than
one? The tenative construction plan I have calls for 2 reservoirs - would
this cause a problem? Additionally, I like the Cape Corp Coolplex 25's -
however they are too long. I need something about 6" each. Can the
Coolplex be purchased in shorter lengths? Will it work with Plug and Cool
fittings? Can it be mounted horizontally? Can the plug and cool fittings be put onto a different acrylic reservoir that's shorter?

In a low flow setup having a dual reservoir setup wont hurt your performance, in a high flow setup though it only adds to the resistance. I have had a single customer of mine use 2 Coolplex 10s with his shuttle project and it turned out looking pretty sweet. In fact I have a few pics of it in my Image Gallery within the catalog. Im getting a few complete Coolplex 10s (about the 6" you want) in the next shipment if you are interested and it will work fine with P&C fittings. Whatever you want to do with the Coolplex reservoirs, its very possible.

Inaba said:
3. In regards to radiators. Is there a benefit or detriment to having
more than one radiator?

I would probably steer you away from having dual radiators on the same loop, if it were a complete dual loop it would be fine. One radiator, lets say a 120mm, cools a CPU and NB and the other 120mm radiator cools the GPU and HDDs or PSU, neither cooling loop would interact with the other. It depends on room availability and your budget if you can do this or not but I would prefer the highest cooling with the use of these products when possible. The cooling system in the Sick Rig comes out to about $1100 retail, this includes the Aquaero of course.

Inaba said:
4. In regards to pumps - the Aquastream is the pump I want, but I have
concernes over it's ability to supply the system with adequate flow rates,
especially if the channel is constricted to 1/4". I plan on cooling an
x800, Athlon 64, Northbridge, possibly 2 hard drive and possibly a PSU.
Given the price of the pump, I'm somewhat reluctant at purchasing two, and
depending on what other components I will have in the case, room would be
a serious issue as well. Can you advise on whether or not this pump would
be adequate, as well as reccomend another 12v pump that would be, should
this one not be?

I have one Aquastream pump running all the water through a "cheap" dual loop system. See the pics earlier in this thread (t-fitting located on the output of the radiator). It would be more than enough flow since it acts more like an Eheim 1048 now since the controller can be OCed via the Aquaero. Again, Im sure someone else can recommend a good 12v pump but the trouble would be to properly adapt it for use with smaller tubing.

-Dan
 
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