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Starcraft II

LeninGHOLA said:
Just water tesselation, right? Blizzard isn't known for pushing the envelope with graphics, they just make things look good enough then focus on polishing the game.
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Not sure how complex the water effects are, but I think the main purpose of DX11 is a general performance improvement. I gained probably close to a 10 FPS boost on beta in DX11 mode at the moment. There's other neat effects like sunshafts too, which make the lighting awesome, even from underwater if you're close enough to the surface. There's even rumors of depth of field, but I'm not sure if it's what it sounds like.

Anyway on topic, I'm 12/26 Brutal and it's awesome so far. I end up playing each mission at least twice (one on hard) to pick up the achievements, but sometimes I get lucky and get everything done in one go.
 
I'm loving it so far... I haven't even started the campaign, just been playing skirmishes vs the PC and some "practice games" online... LOVE IT! Similar to the first one but new at the same time... most fun I've had playing a game in a long time...
 
Database said:
I'm loving it so far... I haven't even started the campaign, just been playing skirmishes vs the PC and some "practice games" online... LOVE IT! Similar to the first one but new at the same time... most fun I've had playing a game in a long time...
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Agreed, I am headin out on the lake today and I will probably be thinking of Starcraft strategies lol.
 
One I got past the stupid missions, the game is pretty damn fun. Not that hard on Brutal though.
 
Campaign was fairly easy, even on Hard. I got all achievement and all bonus objectives in one pass. :eek:

Might try again on Insane. AI is rigged?
 
This is seriously one of the best games ever. I'm loving both the campaign and the custom maps. I can't wait until people come up with first person modes that blizzard said is possible. I wanna be a ghost and snipe and nuke people dammit
 
I'm thinking about restarting my campaign, as you don't get all the achievements if it's on Normal. Seeing as Normal is hella easy, I want more of a challenge.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
Go to mission archives and replay for achievements.
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thanks i was wondering that myself

i am playing on Casual *hangs head in shame*

cause i haven't played a RTS in YEARS

i played a Skirmish against the AI on Very Easy and was startled at how i had a whole army and he barely had anything by the time i found him
 
i started the campaign on hard. played through about 5 or 6 but then i found the protoss are real bitchy for some reason, so i dropped it to normal for one of the missions against them. not sure if i'll replay it on hard or go with normal for the rest of the campaign.
 
For people saying multiplayer is exactly same obviously never played SC1 and BW. Sure alot of the units are the same, but the game plays completely different. I will be playing SC2 for years to come. Best game for me and game of the year. Their will be so much replay value. The 60$ tag was alot, but I remember when Diablo II launched, I payed 55$ and I remember when LOD Expansion came out I payed 50$.
 
Fail said:
thanks i was wondering that myself

i am playing on Casual *hangs head in shame*

cause i haven't played a RTS in YEARS

i played a Skirmish against the AI on Very Easy and was startled at how i had a whole army and he barely had anything by the time i found him
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Go ahead and play on hard. Come talk to us then. If you are rusty, Normal is a good starting point. But you need to work your way into hard and even insane to do well on bnet.
 
Generally the easiest setting for AI on rts games seem to be mainly to let you build up and try your units. They are almost always very passive and never attack and slow to build up.
 
with no campaign mode yet for the other two races, i really like being able to play against a dumb computer just to see what i can do for myself and how the races work
 
This game is awesome. I love the campaign mode and multiplayer. The amount and quality of the content in this game makes it well worth $60. Everything about the game is highly addictive, and it's fun blasting my coworkers into oblivion.
 
Fail said:
thanks i was wondering that myself

i am playing on Casual *hangs head in shame*

cause i haven't played a RTS in YEARS

i played a Skirmish against the AI on Very Easy and was startled at how i had a whole army and he barely had anything by the time i found him
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I'm in the same boat. I was hoping CnC4 would have been good, but that turned out being a huge amount of crap. So the last game I really got into was CnC3 Tiberium Wars. That's been like 2 years since I did a LAN party and I don't play online on RTS games.
 
Fail said:
thanks i was wondering that myself

i am playing on Casual *hangs head in shame*

cause i haven't played a RTS in YEARS

i played a Skirmish against the AI on Very Easy and was startled at how i had a whole army and he barely had anything by the time i found him
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I am in the same boat, although I try to play on hard (as i do most games) and I'm getting steamrolled in the missions lol.
It usually takes me a few times, because I'm also going for the achievements as well.
I couldn't tell you the last time I played an RTS :(
 
Not to be sour or anything - but anyone else feel the story in the campaign was trite and cliche?. Lots of pretty pictures (kudos to the animation and 3d department), but the characters are flat and the story lack any gravity.
 
Hels said:
Not to be sour or anything - but anyone else feel the story in the campaign was trite and cliche?. Lots of pretty pictures (kudos to the animation and 3d department), but the characters are flat and the story lack any gravity.
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Agreed about the story. It doesn't feel much different than the warcraft story arc, except it's in space. I have to disagree about the characters though. Findley is awesome, and Jim Raynor has some depth. Plus I think some of the antagonists feel pretty good (Mengsk for example is great). The Tal'Adrim are fucking terrible though. Ooooooo, a fanatical religious group protecting sacred objects of the gods. Ugh.
 
How can you forget about valarian? It's arthas/kael'thas in space, and kerrigan is sylvanis :O Swann is the generic dwarf, Stetman is a gnome, Tosh is a troll (but only his personality, voodoo and Jamaican accent and all that). Jim Raynor is a tauren.. Selendis is a nightelf.. Findlay is an Orc.. Ariel is an undead (being infested and all that) and Nova is an elite trained assassin ready to snipe your ass.. Yes, I see it now, it all fits together. It's not even a strech. ;)

Findlay was over-the-top badassery - he was extremely flat, but was cool since it was his character - although sometimes he made it just a little too much over the top.
 
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I would have much rather seen more Kerrigan when she was a ghost.
 
Combat piracy. Which it doesn't work anyways. Can't even combat piracy on an MMORPG.
 
Hels said:
How can you forget about valarian? It's arthas/kael'thas in space, and kerrigan is sylvanis :O Swann is the generic dwarf, Stetman is a gnome, Tosh is a troll (but only his personality, voodoo and Jamaican accent and all that). Jim Raynor is a tauren.. Selendis is a nightelf.. Findlay is an Orc.. Ariel is an undead (being infested and all that) and Nova is an elite trained assassin ready to snipe your ass.. Yes, I see it now, it all fits together. It's not even a strech. ;)

Findlay was over-the-top badassery - he was extremely flat, but was cool since it was his character - although sometimes he made it just a little too much over the top.
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I can see where you're coming from with Findlay. I still liked him though :).

Another bit of a surprise for me was the sound. Overall teh game has great sound, but the Protoss and Zerg voices are pretty terribly done. Kerrigan is a step down voice-acting wise from the last game and the Protoss writing is just bad. Who wrote their dialog?
 
Jon55 said:
Yeah, how dare we ask questions! We should just take what we're given and be done with it. :rolleyes:

Very few people here are upset about the lack of LAN, $60 price, or whatever. The vast majority of us are very happy with SC2, and feels it's worth every penny. I was the one who asked about DX11. ASKED, not complained about the lack of it. Stop your bitching.
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I wasn't referring to you, or anyone in particular. It's just going onto Metacritic to read what people say about the game and I find people giving the game 0/10 or 1/10 for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of the game but rather rant about how they hate Blizzard.

1/10 - Yet another rehash from the kings of rehashes themselves. Only this time it's not even a full rehash, but a third of it, stripped of tonnes of features like LAN support to appease gaming 2.0 business design models and pie graphs so Robert Kotick can renovate his kitchen. Almost a billion hours of CGI to distract neckbeards from their looming diabetes, an epic tale of cliche' revenge killing and redemption that has nothing to do with what is supposed to be a tournament game. Facebook integration so all your cousins and parents can see why your friends list hasn't reached double figures yet. A taste of things to come from Blizzbooktivision.
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Like, I don't get that mentality. It seems that the person hates Blizzard and is taking it out on the game.
 
Hels said:
Not to be sour or anything - but anyone else feel the story in the campaign was trite and cliche?. Lots of pretty pictures (kudos to the animation and 3d department), but the characters are flat and the story lack any gravity.
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I've played about half the campaign and the story is not impressive. The missions are fun as is using the old units. Some of the characters are alright.
 
Hels said:
How can you forget about valarian? It's arthas/kael'thas in space, and kerrigan is sylvanis :O Swann is the generic dwarf, Stetman is a gnome, Tosh is a troll (but only his personality, voodoo and Jamaican accent and all that). Jim Raynor is a tauren.. Selendis is a nightelf.. Findlay is an Orc.. Ariel is an undead (being infested and all that) and Nova is an elite trained assassin ready to snipe your ass.. Yes, I see it now, it all fits together. It's not even a strech. ;)

Findlay was over-the-top badassery - he was extremely flat, but was cool since it was his character - although sometimes he made it just a little too much over the top.
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SC1 was originally rumored to be Orcs in Space ;)
 
TheCommander said:
I've played about half the campaign and the story is not impressive. The missions are fun as is using the old units. Some of the characters are alright.
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The tale itself is not that great but the way the story is told is well above average. I like the news reports and the various interactions. The only character I dont like so far is the stupid Jamaican guy, very annoying.
 
I, very much, enjoyed the game and I really don't see where the negativity is coming from. Perhaps my experience is the result of me enjoying the game, for what it is, and not nit-picking and trying to find negative aspects of the game.

I enjoyed the story, and felt it was told very well. I'm not looking for an academy award winner, its just a game ... and should be enjoyed as such.
 
The first Odin mission and the final campaign mission are a pain.

I actually think that Odin mission is harder than the All in mission. Have yet to beat it on Brutal.
 
Isn't the story almost the same as WC3? The Legion/Undead in WC3, the Zerg-Protoss/Zel Naga in SC2? I still loved it though.
 
huxley said:
The tale itself is not that great but the way the story is told is well above average. I like the news reports and the various interactions. The only character I dont like so far is the stupid Jamaican guy, very annoying.
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I agree that the way it is told is good but the plot was bad. I was expecting something epic but that all went down the drain with the ending.
 
BDV said:
The first Odin mission and the final campaign mission are a pain.

I actually think that Odin mission is harder than the All in mission. Have yet to beat it on Brutal.
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For the Odin mission, I went for a small group of Wraiths and a large group of medics/marines. Used Wraiths to pick off all the tanks and BC's I saw and retreated, and sent in the M&Ms to support the Odin. Kept SCVs nearby but not in the heat of battle because the AI will focus them. Just repaired him after each wave.
 
Finished it. 3 days, maybe 20-25 hours of gameplay.

Worth $59.

Story was good, I can't believe I didn't come across any spoilers before finishing it. I have mixed feelings about the ending. Considering that there's going to be another SC2 with a zerg campaign I expected the ending to be very expected, but that didn't happen. Instead, as promised, we have a "clear-cut resolution" - but one that raises a LOT more questions than it answers - well played, Blizzard. Nevertheless, some parts of the ending - Tychus, for example - felt a little underwhelming. Now, just to wait till the next one comes out to find out WTF was really going on.
 
BDV said:
The first Odin mission and the final campaign mission are a pain.

I actually think that Odin mission is harder than the All in mission. Have yet to beat it on Brutal.
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The secret to the Odin mission on brutal is to never make a wraith, they're garbage. I had the double scv pump and after saturating my base I'd rally it to the odin and keep making scv's as a mix of MM / goliath / siege tank army followed the odin around. Siege tanks are insanely strong with the odin leading the charge. In between fights I'd also pick off parts of the next base with siege tanks. Also, remember that you can mule drop to repair. Science vessels are also pretty good, but the odin's sheer amount of hp will drain any science vessel's mana pretty fast.
 
Is anyone experiencing absurd memory usage? I have a 4GB system, but SC2 just crashed with a bunch of memory errors. I had Resource Monitor running in the background, and it appears SC2 was using >2GB, my commit charge was at 100%, and the faults/sec spiked right before SC2 crashed. Seems like a leak to me, but is there anything else I can do aside from trying to run less apps in the background?

... I guess this teaches me that large pagefiles are sometimes useful.
 
If you're using a 32bit OS, then it's definitely memory leaks. 32 bit Windows allocates 2 GB to the kernel and 2 GB for all programs. I'm not certain how a 64 bit Windows deals with 32 bit programs.
 
Never play the 1st one but I'm about 2-3 hours into the single campaign and really like it. Gotto build up some skills b4 jumping to the multi. Anybody that is noob at this wanna play sometimes? :D
 
iTravis said:
Never play the 1st one but I'm about 2-3 hours into the single campaign and really like it. Gotto build up some skills b4 jumping to the multi. Anybody that is noob at this wanna play sometimes? :D
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You should be able to find some people around your level of familiarity with the game by getting ranked. If you want to play noobs, just throw all 5 of your placement matches and start in copper and work your way up.
 
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