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Played an epic TvT this morning on Metalopolis. I did a 3 rax with a MM drop in their mineral line. Didn't take out but 3 or 4 SCV's and then pulled back. The guy tried harassing with Banshee but two turrets and my marines put an end to that. He tried expoing to the adjacent base instead of his natural early on. That didn't last long as I dropped a team in to harass it. So he moved it to his natural.
After that I attacked his natural with my MM/tank/banshee/viking army. Slowly crept forward and then stim rushed his tank line. Destroyed the expo only to run smack into some Battle Cruisers. I didn't have enough Vikings to stop that so I backed off and started massing again. Did a quick 4 marauder drop and took out his Fusion Core.
So it turned into BC/Viking vs Viking/MM. He ended up attacking me with 4-5 BC and probably 8-10 Vikings. At that point I had moved my MM ball to attack his new expansion. I had a viking just constantly scouting looking for that. So took that out and l ran back to his main and destroyed it because there was nothing there but a few vikings to try to protect it. He figured it was just a base trade. Little did he know I already had another expo going. I had already lifted my original CC and landed that elsewhere. My MM ball went around and took out all of his SCV's and his CCs.
With his killing my production buildings but having one fully saturated expo and another half saturated I was sitting on just stupid amounts of money. So as he ran around to kill my two expos I brought a third one up. Dropped two barracks and a starport because he had neglected to kill off my factory.
Reactored one rax and my starport. Just mass pumped marines (they had stim and combat shields) and a few vikings. The BC's had never been repaired so they were heavily damaged. Any vikings he landed got crushed by my few marauders that were left and his BC's just got wrecked by the mass marines.
Overall it was a very satisfying win even though I could have ended the game much sooner if I had attacked after denying that original shot at expanding.
After that I attacked his natural with my MM/tank/banshee/viking army. Slowly crept forward and then stim rushed his tank line. Destroyed the expo only to run smack into some Battle Cruisers. I didn't have enough Vikings to stop that so I backed off and started massing again. Did a quick 4 marauder drop and took out his Fusion Core.
So it turned into BC/Viking vs Viking/MM. He ended up attacking me with 4-5 BC and probably 8-10 Vikings. At that point I had moved my MM ball to attack his new expansion. I had a viking just constantly scouting looking for that. So took that out and l ran back to his main and destroyed it because there was nothing there but a few vikings to try to protect it. He figured it was just a base trade. Little did he know I already had another expo going. I had already lifted my original CC and landed that elsewhere. My MM ball went around and took out all of his SCV's and his CCs.
With his killing my production buildings but having one fully saturated expo and another half saturated I was sitting on just stupid amounts of money. So as he ran around to kill my two expos I brought a third one up. Dropped two barracks and a starport because he had neglected to kill off my factory.
Reactored one rax and my starport. Just mass pumped marines (they had stim and combat shields) and a few vikings. The BC's had never been repaired so they were heavily damaged. Any vikings he landed got crushed by my few marauders that were left and his BC's just got wrecked by the mass marines.
Overall it was a very satisfying win even though I could have ended the game much sooner if I had attacked after denying that original shot at expanding.
We need more replays in this forum. I'm going to upload a couple interesting games I played last night if anyone is curious. 1 PvT and 1 PvZ.
Vermillion, I'd love to see your replay if you'd be ok uploading it somewhere.
Edit: umcpgrad, you still up for our "grudge" match best of 5? I could probably swing something Sunday or Monday night. Are you EST or PST or somethign else? I'm on Mountain time.
Vermillion, I'd love to see your replay if you'd be ok uploading it somewhere.
Edit: umcpgrad, you still up for our "grudge" match best of 5? I could probably swing something Sunday or Monday night. Are you EST or PST or somethign else? I'm on Mountain time.
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Adding to what Decko wrote. Don't feel like if you're opponent is getting his natural early you have to stop him. Protoss and Zerg play very differently. If he's busy setting up two bases you may just want to mass an army and push him once you hit a large enough size. Just be sure to scout him (make obs
) and build the appropriate units to handle what he's doing. If he takes his natural he's spending his money on drones, not units, so you're free to spend yours on units and push him.- Joined
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Sure. I'll upload it later when I get home. Just no comments on my piss poor macro or any of my other mistakes because I saw quite a few when I watched the replay.
why nots
def down for some games why nots
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going to late bday dinners sat-sun and monday going to a sports game
we set something up
did you read about my egrudge match with a low bronze player and got owneded like hell hahaha
I might retire
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why nots
def down for some games why nots
sat-sun-mon
going to late bday dinners sat-sun and monday going to a sports game
we set something up
did you read about my egrudge match with a low bronze player and got owneded like hell hahaha
I might retire
Someone should cast it.
Someone should cast it.
I'll see if I can get Day[9]'s contact info and beg him to cast our matches
.GriMReapeRAK
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Man, I wish there were more portraits/decals for the non-competitive players. I want some of the portraits, but I'm not a very good player and ranked matches can become very stressful sometimes.
Anyway, I hope Blizzard will decide to add some portraits/decals for co-op/custom games vs. AI. Maybe with the achievements for them requiring at least a certain difficulty level and number of games won.
Anyway, I hope Blizzard will decide to add some portraits/decals for co-op/custom games vs. AI. Maybe with the achievements for them requiring at least a certain difficulty level and number of games won.
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Do believe there's a special portrait for winning a 8 player FFA vs insane AI. Good luck with that though since the AI cheats and gets a handicap bonus at that level.
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It is actually pretty simple, what you do is play a map with islands and rush build to transports then hide on the islands while the AIs kill each other, then roll in with your end game mass.
There is several portraits available from single player campaign achievements though.
There is several portraits available from single player campaign achievements though.
GriMReapeRAK
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That's exactly what I did for that achievement.
I've got most of the portraits for the campaign, but I was hoping for more unlocks along the lines of unit portraits rather than just the main characters. I was thinking maybe something like "generic" unit portraits for co-op/custom games achievements and the first few achievements for wins in ranked games. Then the higher amount of wins for the ranked games could be unique unit portraits. But, it's probably just wishful thinking. I don't think Blizzard will add anything until the first expansion.
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Man, I wish there were more portraits/decals for the non-competitive players. I want some of the portraits, but I'm not a very good player and ranked matches can become very stressful sometimes.
Anyway, I hope Blizzard will decide to add some portraits/decals for co-op/custom games vs. AI. Maybe with the achievements for them requiring at least a certain difficulty level and number of games won.
It doesn't matter what skill level you're at. It takes the same effort to get any of the ladder portraits. The assumption is that ANY player REGARDLESS of skill level will float around 50% win ratio in the long run in their respective league. Thus, it's just as easy to get X wins in bronze as it is in Diamond. In fact, the fastest and easiest way to get the portraits is to get them in bronze by cheesing (worker rushing) every single game. Games are over in a few minutes and you'll still go 50% by worker rushing in bronze.
In fact, the achievements requiring insane AI etc. are HARDER to get for 'casual' gamers if they aren't capable of beating an insane AI. You can always win against other players since you'll be playing people at your level. You can't say the same about AI.
This one is very easy to get. Play the 8 player lava map as terran and float to one of the islands at the start. Set up two bases and make some battlecruiser. Good game, have fun.
The hardest AI achievement is probably the 1v4 Very hard AI one. I had to do a cannon rush into island expansion (ditching main) into void ray harass to win.
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Ask and you shall receive...I watched it again and man is it painful to watch. My macro was beyond horrid and my micro wasn't much better. Still don't understand how I'm Top 5 in my Platinum League because it's pretty obvious I suck.
EDIT: Another replay from this morning
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I did this as well.
Ask and you shall receive...I watched it again and man is it painful to watch. My macro was beyond horrid and my micro wasn't much better. Still don't understand how I'm Top 5 in my Platinum League because it's pretty obvious I suck.
EDIT: Another replay from this morning
Everyone has things to improve on. Were you Skull or Cat? Overall a really fun game to watch
.I tried getting an account on gamereplays.org so I could have the nice download buttons like Vermillion, but it wasn't working.
Anyway, just a couple of replays.
1. In this first one the Terran player did a good job of harassing my minerals with banshees but his macro was lacking.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/70768-1v1-terran-protoss-desert-oasis
2. In this second one I use blink pretty well around the 9 or 10 minute mark.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/70771-1v1-protoss-desert-oasis
Anyway, just a couple of replays.
1. In this first one the Terran player did a good job of harassing my minerals with banshees but his macro was lacking.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/70768-1v1-terran-protoss-desert-oasis
2. In this second one I use blink pretty well around the 9 or 10 minute mark.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/70771-1v1-protoss-desert-oasis
Ask and you shall receive...I watched it again and man is it painful to watch. My macro was beyond horrid and my micro wasn't much better. Still don't understand how I'm Top 5 in my Platinum League because it's pretty obvious I suck.
EDIT: Another replay from this morning
Just watched the first game.... What an epic fail lol... The blue terran sucked and then I was wondering how the hell did you almost lose to him!
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Everyone has things to improve on. Were you Skull or Cat? Overall a really fun game to watch
SkullOne is me. Used to have that name here too, this is the only forum where I don't have that name. I stopped reading the [H] forum for a while due to my job working me hard (60-90 hours a week with no OT). Couldn't remember the password and the e-mail address set to it was dead once they cleaned house of unused accounts a few years back. So I created a new one. I've actually been around for about 7+ years.
Yeah. I watched it again last night to take another look at my mistakes and it really is painful. Was a fun game though.
I tried a new build order this morning. More refined then the one I used in the second replay. Probably shouldn't have tried it laddering this morning but oh well.
Build is very strong against Terran and Protoss and worthless against Zerg (I knew it would be but tried anyways). However, I still lost all 3 games (T, P, Z) this morning. Just holes in the build that got exploited and bad play on my part. Didn't help that the Protoss did nothing but Voidgays on Kulas Ravine and used the rocks to be fully charged up by the time he got to my base. So will use YABOT tonight to fix the holes. Very simple fixes, as I know exactly what I need to change, so shouldn't take me but two or three 10 minute periods in YABOT to get it corrected.
I actually think the changes I'm going to make will make the build even stronger which is kind of scary.
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Your micro needs work
Oh trust me I know. I was also thinking more about getting another expo up at the time instead of caring about a few vikings as long as they were dealing damage. I knew I had the upper hand because of my money and the fact I still had SCV's. I also knew that if I could get just one reactored barracks up and a single reactored starport up I would win.
Luckily with my new build TvT games shouldn't go this long for me ever again.
Wow this is almost like an exact match i had last night, but sadly i was on the losing terran side doing the banshee's .. this is not me playing up there its just really WEIRD that i had almost the same exact match against protoss, the same match, and he pwn'd me w/ blink. Weird!
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can anyone weigh in on how well a new (year old or less) macbook pro runs starcraft 2 in windows?
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Depends on what graphics card it has. If it's rocking the 9400M then don't expect a whole lot (medium maybe?). I have a friend with a MBP that runs it on low because while it can run medium it lags a little too much for him.
I've had a number of Terrans try to pull the banshee thing off against me and this is the best anyone has ever done. I just think they are too hard to get quickly and they are painfully weak and slow. A few blink stalkers, an observer and some basic micro and all that banshee investment evaporates.
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what about macbook pro with NVIDIA GeForce 320M ?
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That should run it fine on medium to high settings.
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I finally got promoted to diamond league, so I'm happy
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]|[ Mar']['in ]|[;1036135538 said:I finally got promoted to diamond league, so I'm happy
I hope I don't get promoted for awhile. Still hard to believe I'm capable of staying at Platinum levels with my bad macro and horrid micro. I remember during the beta I got drummed out of Platinum and straight down to Silver. Hard to say if that's a testament to me just being that much better or the quality of Joe Average player just being that shitty.
Any Protoss player want to give me a YABOT build order for an all-in Voidray rush that walls off your base? I'd also love a YABOT build order for this build here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142887
I'm too lazy to do it myself as I don't want to learn Protoss right now.
In return I'll supply YABOT build orders of my current Protoss crushing build and my new one if I get it working correctly.
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i have a love/hate relationship with diamond league.
love the prestige, hate the intense long matches haha
*macbook pro*
i thought the new macbook pros were really good at gaming and starcraft 2 doesn't really require too much of a machine
love the prestige, hate the intense long matches haha
*macbook pro*
i thought the new macbook pros were really good at gaming and starcraft 2 doesn't really require too much of a machine
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The main reason I'm happy about diamond league is I'm actually a bit more relaxed while playing now. Before when I was trying to get ranked up I was so concerned about not losing at all that it was almost stressful. Now I can just play and not worry about it. I doubt I'll get bumped down or anything, I'm rank 3 right now.
It's in the options menu under either gameplay or or the graphics settings. I can't remember which exactly. I have them on all the time and they really don't block anything (but are great for micro'ing hurt units and targetting enemies close to death).
My only problem with the Diamond league (personally love the more drawn out intense matches) is all the cheese I have to deal with. Canon rushes, 6 pool, etc. The cannon rush is by far my most hated right now. I'm having to scout my base area then scout all the lower levels around it. Really aggravating; I empathize with Idra sometimes
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My only problem with the Diamond league (personally love the more drawn out intense matches) is all the cheese I have to deal with. Canon rushes, 6 pool, etc. The cannon rush is by far my most hated right now. I'm having to scout my base area then scout all the lower levels around it. Really aggravating; I empathize with Idra sometimes
Yeah. Even the higher level Platinum where I'm at (~700-800 points) has a lot of cheese. Fast Voidray all-in or cannon rush or 6 pool or 6 rax. All of it is annoying. I hate having to wall in 90% of the time during ladder matches because it throws off my timings by just a little bit so I feel clunky at first.