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scared VGA silencer

Hey I also forgot to mention that the fan speed switch broke off, so I can't change the speed anymore :(
 
Wow, I had no idea so many people were having problems with the VGA Silencer! I didn't read this whole thread (I have a life you know, it's huge!) but I can say that I have installed and removed the VGA silencer on two 9800 Pros and I fail to see what the problem is.

It really isn't that hard. The only tricky part is removing the stock cooler without damaging the board with the pliers. Even that isn't tough if you just cool your nerves, sit down in a comfortable position and work the pins out slowly.

I don't know how anyone could mess up their card by removing the the back plate. It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

As for the shim, both of my 9800 Pro shims were lower than the core but I admit the second one was close enough to get me to remove the shim on that one. Even that isn't rough even if it is scary. Again, it's all about calming down, sitting comfortably and working slowly.
 
i have to say the same ... it's really easy to install (compared to the zm-80c for example)

i installed the rev. 1 about 5 times and had zero problems .. working on a review of the revision 3 right now and did about 8 installs so far.. no problems there either .. and i really turned the screws in [H]ard this time to test.. with the shim left in place tho ..
 
Maybe SilkenRogue is on to something!

I wonder if the problem lies in connecting to the board fan header? I remember in my early days, furballing my MB header when I plugged in a CPU fan that drew to much juice:eek: Maybe a new thread asking those that hosed their cards if they plugged into the card or used a molex?

Hey jmcmike You really should read this one from the top. Has all the qualities of a good [H]ard thread.

The Saint should be Knighted.:)
 
Scroll up to my past post...I said i thought it was the power draw on the card. I did some research and found on Arctic-cooling website that their fan draws more then 3 watts of power. It doesnt seem like much but through you card it is. We all know that the 9700 AIW sucks more power up then any other card on the market. Including the 9800 AIW.

I can say almost for sure that that is the problem here.

Did you remove the shim when you installed it?
 
Just installed my artic on a 9600pro from Powercolor, a supposed ultra version, comes out of the box clocked @ 400/700. I have had this card @ 510/760 using stock cooling, so I will post my stable oc results soon.

The only problem I had was that the holes in my card were ever so slightly mis-aligned with the cooler holes, eventually after about 10 mins I managed to get it to fit and sit on the gpu rather nicely.:)
 
Originally posted by MarKeR
Just installed my artic on a 9600pro from Powercolor, a supposed ultra version, comes out of the box clocked @ 400/700. I have had this card @ 510/760 using stock cooling, so I will post my stable oc results soon.

The only problem I had was that the holes in my card were ever so slightly mis-aligned with the cooler holes, eventually after about 10 mins I managed to get it to fit and sit on the gpu rather nicely.:)
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I'm suprised you got it to fit at all, unless you cut off the plastic that gets in the way of inserting it into your AGP slot. As far as I know Rev1 or 2 does not fit a 9600pro stock. Thats why I sent mine back.
 
Originally posted by Shinare
I'm suprised you got it to fit at all, unless you cut off the plastic that gets in the way of inserting it into your AGP slot. As far as I know Rev1 or 2 does not fit a 9600pro stock. Thats why I sent mine back.
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No mods to the artic at all, slotted in np:)

BTW
Forgot to mention REV3 silencer;)
 
Originally posted by MarKeR
No mods to the artic at all, slotted in np:)

BTW
Forgot to mention REV3 silencer;)
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ahhh, heh, thats why. :) I should be gettin the Giant III in the mail anyday now *knocks on wooden desk* so I'll post pics and experiance installing that behemoth on my 9600pro.
 
Originally posted by Shinare
ahhh, heh, thats why. :) I should be gettin the Giant III in the mail anyday now *knocks on wooden desk* so I'll post pics and experiance installing that behemoth on my 9600pro.
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and ill be putting it on my 9800pro that wont overclock for shit tomorrow.

not expecting any great overclocks, but a couple days ago i touched the gpucooler ( http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-290&depa=1 ) and burned some skin off. Im not worried because hey its rock solid. Just tooooooo hot for my tastes. hopefully the GYMONGUS III will solve some of those problems.
 
Update on my OC with the Rev3 artic fitted.

Stock on my 9600pro from Powercolor
Core = 398.75MHz
Mem = 337.75MHz

O/Clocked
Core = 501MHz
Mem = 370Mhz

Stable:) :)

Extra 700 points in 3DM03
 
Welp I got my GIANT III cooler in the mail today and guess what?!? IT #$%@in WONT FIT!!! *sigh* ok, sorry rant over. My stupid non-reference Transcend 9600pro's GPU is too low on the card for the cooler to go over the top of it. Now I'm pretty much gonna leave the stupid stock cooling on this thing and be done with it. Sooooo if anyone wants an unused mint GIANT III than PM me. I'll be putting this in the FT/FT forum.

*sigh*

Guess I'm stuck with 450/710 forever or until I get a 9800pro when the next gens come out. :(
 
Originally posted by NeoNemesis
Shit! I knew I shouldn't have used the air ratchet to tighten the thing on!

Seriously though I didnt think it would be this hard. Is the Zalman ZM80C this difficult to install? If it is then I'll get my buddy to do the install, he is much more patient then I am.

I don't see what the problem with breaking your card is unless the Warranty is expired. If the thing breaks after you try to install the silence then just put the old fan back on, ship it back to whoever sold it too you and tell them that you are pissed off because their fucking video card doesnt work and that if they don't replace it then you will take your buisness elsewhere. I guarantee they won't check if the thing works or not.

The way I see it is that its there fault for not making the thing durable enough.
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holy fuck! i seriously don't know how to respond to this fuckbucket!
 
When you guys say that the holes don't line up. do you mean that after installing the double plate the AGP side of the plate screws on ok, but the cooler sides holes are off?

If so, while I have my case empty, which hole should I make bigger and in what direction should I widen the hole?

Thank you.
 
Originally posted by KickAssCop
.. and that is the reason I opt for the Giant II/III.. it has a little thin aluminum plate popping out of the base so that whatever the case it makes good contact w/ the core!

Vga Silencer did not impress me one bit due to the whole cheap aluminum block thingie and plastic cover..

Sorry to hear about the loss of your cards though!:(
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yeah it looked like a POS from the get go.

never remove your shim buy a cooler thats made to fit right. if ati was'nt concerned with the core cracking there would'nt be a shim on it in the first place........
 
I just ordered my VGA Silencer on Friday, due to arrive on the 25th. I can't wait to give this thing a try. It seems a lot of people here had trouble with it, but I am still pretty confident that I can install it without a problem. So far the highest I could push my 9800np was 410/341, but that was back in August when I first got the card. I am hoping to get 430/340 at least, I won't push the ram any higher until I get some ramsinks.

After this thing is installed, all that I will have left to replace is the northbridge heatsink, and my computer will be complete. The abit NB cooler is a little loud for my tastes. My original goal when I built my computer was to have it quiet. But my new goal is to have it quiet most of the time, but have huge airflow for overclcocking when I need it. So far I have my CPU fan and case fans on a fan controller, and the louder of my 2 case fans has an on/off switch. VGA silcencer has the high/low settings, which is one of the reasons I like it.
 
"i seriously don't know how to respond to this f*ckbucket!"

Yep, it's one thing to remove the stock fan and try something, the card doesn't work and not sure if it was you that caused it or not and RMA it......and another to actually know you did it and return it.

Anyway, I plan on not using the double slots, being very careful screwing it down onto the card, attaching the high/low control somewhere else, use AS5 and trying to plug the fan into a 4-pin header from the power supply. Anyone know how I can do this? Do I need a 2-pin to 3-pin and 3-pin to 4-pin converters or do I have to cut the wires and rewire them somewhere else? I'm looking at it now and I see one red wire and one black wire.
 
Got any dead fans? I just cut the molex off one of the fans in my junkpile and soldered the corresponding wires together, then used a little electrical tape to reinsulate.
 
Let me know if this will work:

I have some extra connectors that came with my Vantec Nexus fan controllers. They are supposed to be use for plugging in 4-pin fans to get down to 3-pin connectors. Two 4-pin connectors (one 4-pin male and one 4-pin female, I thought this was rather odd) have red, black, black, yellow wires running between them. One of the 4-pin connectors (male) has one black wire and one yellow wire coming out from where the corresponding black/yellow wires are. These two wires run out into a 3-pin female connector. I thought I could cut this 3-pin female off and splice those two wires (black/yellow) into the black/red of the VGA Silencer fan wires. Would this work or do I need to run the red wire into the empty 3-pin slot instead? If so, what do I do with the yellow wire? Thanks.:D

Or maybe I should just get a 3-pin to 3-pin extension and only plug the VGA Silencer into the red and black plugins?
 
I still say Giant III is where its at.. see my thread.. I think it will clarify any misconceptions people have abt this kit!
 
For the record, I just installed a VGA silencer on a 9800 Pro that used to have it attached, on my kitchen counter, with my 3 and 2 year old kids pawing at the parts and me fending them off, in about 10 minutes, and I didn't break anything.
 
From Artic cooling....

If you have artifacts, you should check that you don't use too much thermal grease. There should just be thermal grease on the DIE, but not beside.


Mit freundlichen Grüssen
yours sincerely
___________________________________

arctic-cooling Support
Magnus Huber

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Gee thanks Magnus....i thought you just spray the whole card with Thermal paste....even the outside of your case...

OK are you FUGGIN KIDDING me.....this has to be the worst answer i have ever seen. OMFG if you buying a cooler then you should know how to apply paste. WE KNOW MAGNUS....of course he never comented on the power draw, the amount or why the artifacts stayed after the cooler was removed and the stock was applied. Nor did he say anything about the this thread or the thread in ATI newgroups, as well as the one on rage3d.com. AWESOME company...I will never buy another product from them again. I hope they go belly up and turn them into a Beer Factory. BEEER FOR EVERYONE!

Hey Magnus, I was reading that i was suppsed to fill up my computer with Beer to get your cooler to work!
 
i talked to arctic and they say they have had single reports of problems with fans but the too high power draw is something they never found any hard evidence for .. please drop me a pm if you experience this problem so maybe this can be worked on ..

on the 9500/9700 shim lower than core thing they say the backside mounting clip will deform the card a little bit pushing the core towards the cooler and this will make good contact .. can anybody verify this is true?
 
ok seriously, who wants to get their card deformed by a cooling kit? wtf?

I still say there are way better solutions than this one.

*subliminal messaging* Giant III is what you want. :p
 
Originally posted by KickAssCop
ok seriously, who wants to get their card deformed by a cooling kit? wtf?

I still say there are way better solutions than this one.

*subliminal messaging* Giant III is what you want. :p
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I couldnt agree more! A video card core is a sensitive piece..any bowing, bending, pressure could damage it. The way i see it is that the cooler needs to make good contact, but not damage it in anyway.
 
Originally posted by W1zzard
i talked to arctic and they say they have had single reports of problems with fans but the too high power draw is something they never found any hard evidence for .. please drop me a pm if you experience this problem so maybe this can be worked on ..

on the 9500/9700 shim lower than core thing they say the backside mounting clip will deform the card a little bit pushing the core towards the cooler and this will make good contact .. can anybody verify this is true?
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if you mean to say that the 9500/9700 shim was lower then the core then I'd hace to say that's incorrect, my shim was clearly higher then the core and i barley got any thermal paste on the hs from the core when i pushed it down.
 
IM 100% positive that my shim sat lower then my core on my 9700 AIW....I verified this before i even put the VGA silencer on my card.
 
The CORE couldnt care less about the PCB under the substrate bending a bit.....

HOWEVER... the potential for stressing a poor BGA solder joint somewhere under the core-substrate (with hundreds of connections) is something I wouldnt want to do.

Make no mistake, these chinese made cards suffer from tenuous solderjoint quality....dont press your luck or bend your board ever, or do the best you can to avoid it.

But I dont tighten the AC that much. I just installed another Mon, it was spiffy, and the core/shim were the right height...passed the "flashlight" test.

Again my only complaint is the rough condition of the core mating surface, it should be lapped smooth whenever possible. Do the whole surface, or you will increase any shim derived core/hsink gap by only lapping the area in the center.
 
holy hell. Just found this thread, and man would I be scared to let half of you anywhere near my PC (or anything electrical for that matter)

I'd never bothered replacing a GPU HSF before untill I put the Silencer on my 9800 Pro. It was bloody easy. Nothing a little common sense couldn't handle.

Removing the PCI bracket is difficult? You gotta be shitting me. If someone damaged their card doing that they are one clumzy fucker.
 
So SKiTLz or anyone else, is there any way to plug the 2-pin fan connector into a 4-pin power supply plug?
 
Originally posted by SkaarjMaster
So SKiTLz or anyone else, is there any way to plug the 2-pin fan connector into a 4-pin power supply plug?
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you can buy an adapter. That'd be the easiest. Or you could just splice it in with another 4pin molex.
 
Where would I find 2-pin to 3-pin and 3-pin to 4-pin adapters? 2-pin male to 3-pin female and 3-pin male to 4-pin male. Actually it doesn't matter what the 3-pin is just so they each 3-pin can plug into the other and the 2-pin is a male and 4-pin is a male.
 
I had no problems with my install. I'm a bit hesitant about tightening it too much though, since I took my shim off (took me about 40 minutes of careful work). I now get about an extra 15 mhz on the core of my 9800 Pro. Not worth it for the 9800 Pro series if you ask me, but my friend got 40+ mhz on his 9500 non pro.
 
Dude.... the red wire is 12V and theblack wire is GND....SNIP the wire and attach red to YELLOW and black to black.
 
Originally posted by Digital Viper-X-
if you mean to say that the 9500/9700 shim was lower then the core then I'd hace to say that's incorrect, my shim was clearly higher then the core and i barley got any thermal paste on the hs from the core when i pushed it down.
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on a large number of 9500/9700's the core is lower .. my question was if someone can verify that the vga silencer makes good contact on these cards
 
Originally posted by W1zzard
on a large number of 9500/9700's the core is lower .. my question was if someone can verify that the vga silencer makes good contact on these cards
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my core was lower than the shim. I just used a decent amount of AS3 (not gulps). Probably no more than I would usually. Everything works flawlessly for me.
 
Originally posted by SKiTLz
my core was lower than the shim. I just used a decent amount of AS3 (not gulps). Probably no more than I would usually. Everything works flawlessly for me.
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you using the vga silencer ? any way you could get a pic of the contact area?
 
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