Samsung Odyssey 1440p VA monitors 240hz curved

Kamber

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Haha, thanks jbltecnicspro & Absalom, I appreciate it. I can assure anyone reading this that I have no skin in the game and am merely just giving the community a heads up on a potential issue to look out for should anyone decide to buy this panel. I'm a filthy casual who is far from a hardcore enthusiast, and my tech prowess is mediocre at best. I'll try to explain the issue I had in a bit more detail incase it is of any help to other users:

It is so subtle that you wouldn't really notice it unless you were looking for it; I actually didn't notice it for the first 8 or so hours that I used the monitor. My MS-Paint picture is a rudimentary representation of how it looks to me when the monitor is OFF. The phenomenon is somewhat hard to describe... When on, I wouldn't say that the pixels within the grey rectangular portion in my drawing appear any differently in color than the rest of the pixels on the panel... instead, the best way I could describe it would be a subtle distortion. It's a shift in texture rather than color; there arn't actually two vertical lines that form the sides of the grey rectangle that I drew, but the shift in texture caused me to visually perceive these two areas as a distortion taking the rough form of a vertical line going down the panel. When the monitor is ON, I cannot actually distinguish anything besides an extremely subtle distortion where the vertical lines that form the sides of the rectangle are; the area between them looks completely normal and unchanged in texture.

Comixbooks, In games, I was only able to notice this distortion when looking for it specifically or when there was a brightly lit area being depicted on-screen (think, a sunny sky or sun coming through cloud). It is extremely subtle and honestly something that is super liveable-with, I just personally didn't feel like living with it given the pricepoint of the monitor. With the monitor off, though, it was readily apparent; it took the BestBuy employee conducting my return only a single glance to recognize it when I told her where to look and what she was looking for after pulling it out of the box.

It is almost as if some internal rectangular component of the panel was ever so slightly showing through from inside the monitor. It seemed too symmetric, centered, and not random to be a one-off defect to me (unless the defect is infact the outter surface of my monitor being out of spec opacity-wise / too transparent). Personally, I never perceived it as a defect, it struck me as more likely to be an aspect of the panel that was overlooked. I'd be curious to see an engineering diagram of the panel; it wouldn't surprise me to see a large vertical rectangular component in the same exact place as where I'm perceiving this artifact to be. Of course, that is my own uneducated opinion and my sample size is but one. Nonetheless, that is why I did not bother arranging an exchange or replacement. If there are panels shipping without this issue; that is awesome, because it's an amazing screen and I enjoyed it thoroughly (a LOT!) otherwise. I likely would've kept it if it weren't for this issue; I put about 18 hours of use on it and really enjoyed it! The only other reason that that I would've returned it is because I simply am not really able to take advantage of the 240hz refresh rate due to the games I play and my current hardware. I'm sporting a 2080 Ti + Ryzen 3900X and only able to achieve about ~140 fps average in COD: Warzone with the panel at it's native 2K resolution. Warzone is the only game I play these days, and there are other 144hz / 165hz options in the 27" / 2K variety that would meet my needs at a lower pricepoint.

It's an awesome panel, but I wanted to give people a heads up about the possible issue all the same.
 
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redrumy3

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He also posted a video on the flickering issue. Which is the only issue I have with this monitor. I have the 32" version and I get the brightness flicker in certain games even though my fps is within the VRR range. I still have 14 days to return to amazon for refund/replacement but they don't have any 32" in stock.
This monitor hit all the sweet spots for me but that flickering issue is killing it.

Another issue is with PS4 Pro I have it hooked up to hdmi cause I like to use monitor for both pc and ps4 if I do the 4k res I get really bad color banding in games like Ghost of Tsushima but if I switch it to 1080p it’s fine probably a firmware thing or ps4 pro thing but that’s another issue I’m having as well.


32 inch version
 
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Absalom

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He also posted a video on the flickering issue. Which is the only issue I have with this monitor. I have the 32" version and I get the brightness flicker in certain games even though my fps is within the VRR range. I still have 14 days to return to amazon for refund/replacement but they don't have any 32" in stock.
This monitor hit all the sweet spots for me but that flickering issue is killing it.

Another issue is with PS4 Pro I have it hooked up to hdmi cause I like to use monitor for both pc and ps4 if I do the 4k res I get really bad color banding in games like Ghost of Tsushima but if I switch it to 1080p it’s fine probably a firmware thing or ps4 pro thing but that’s another issue I’m having as well.

Linus acknowledged the flickering issue in his "non-sponsored" review of the G9. Yeah this is the G7 thread, but both are based on the same panel family. Regardless, the issue is described the same in either case. To me, this issue is starting to look like a design issue (speculation at best). At first I was starting to think this was typical "not-quite-gsync-compatible" shoveling, but according to that guy, the issue is present regardless of sync technology used. That tends to demonstrate this issue is present and not going away on its own.

Hopefully for those who are already invested, Samsung acknowledges the issue soon'ish, as well as offering a painless fix.
 

cybereality

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I've noticed some slight flickering (usually only noticeable on black shadows) when using VA panels and VRR.

It is not that annoying. I mean it would be better without it, but I typically cannot see it unless I look for it.

Not sure if that is the same issue with the G7.
 

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MistaSparkul

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Seriously? The response times are no different between the different overdrive modes...

But now, this is not surprising. Lots of discrepancies between reviews. Looks like the Samsung panel lottery is back in full force. Better pray you get a good one!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/i3bkvf/tim_from_hardware_unboxed_response_to_their/
Lol so first you say HUB's measurements are not to be trusted because RTINGS was showing different results from them...but now RTINGS is the one with strange results? Ok then. Of course this monitor itself could just have a ridiculous panel variation as that's always been the case with gaming LCDs, so yeah that's more likely the case.
 

mehguy5

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Lol so first you say HUB's measurements are not to be trusted because RTINGS was showing different results from them...but now RTINGS is the one with strange results? Ok then. Of course this monitor itself could just have a ridiculous panel variation as that's always been the case with gaming LCDs, so yeah that's more likely the case.
It can be both. Both cannot be trusted if the panel variance is this bad. Yes, there's always variance but the DEGREE OF VARIANCE matters. ;)

But I'm sure you'll come up with some excuse to apologize for Samsung since it seems they have your pocket well guarded. On the other hand, I am not new to Samsung's shady history and if, indeed, there is another Samsung panel lottery in 2020 oh dear...
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/proof-of-the-panel-lottery.1501188/
 

MistaSparkul

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It can be both. Both cannot be trusted if the panel variance is this bad. Yes, there's always variance but the DEGREE OF VARIANCE matters. ;)

But I'm sure you'll come up with some excuse to apologize for Samsung since it seems they have your pocket well guarded. On the other hand, I am not new to Samsung's shady history and if, indeed, there is another Samsung panel lottery in 2020 oh dear...
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/proof-of-the-panel-lottery.1501188/
LMAO wtf?? I don't even own this monitor or ANY Samsung monitor/TV for that matter, I have an LG OLED TV. Samsung's rival, oh how ironic. 😉 All I'm gonna say is, you were flat out wrong to call HUB's results untrustworthy and I agree that this panels variance is wack. Samsung having my pocket well guarded hahahaha good one.
 
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cybereality

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Seems like almost any display is some sort of gamble. Luckily, I haven't had too many problems, but you see this with all brands.
 

jbltecnicspro

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I see a firmware download for the G7. Says nothing other than 4K support and improved picture quality. Has anyone tried it? I’m on my phone so I cannot link. Maybe that improves the strobing?
 
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