Samsung New 120Hz 3D Models S23A750, S27A750, S23A950 and S27A950

There is still no indication that these monitors actually support 120hz input via DVI-D or be compatible with Nvidia's 3D solutions. These seem to be branded as small LED HDTVs as 120hz monitors which sets me up to expect disappointment.

Feel free to correct me.
 
jincuteguy said:
what's with all these new 27" 120hz? Aren't 120hz is kinda old for monitor now? I see all the big TV like 46" - 55" with 240hz and 600hz, what's the difference?
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There is a huge difference. These are true 120Hz monitors. All of those 240 to 1 bajillion Hz TV sets are only truly 60Hz.

astonish said:
There is still no indication that these monitors actually support 120hz input via DVI-D or be compatible with Nvidia's 3D solutions. These seem to be branded as small LED HDTVs as 120hz monitors which sets me up to expect disappointment.

Feel free to correct me.
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I guess you didn't read the link I posted. ;) These 27" TN panels by Samsung, Asus and the already released Acer are true 120Hz 3D monitors.
 
Oh i see. Do you know anyone with a 120hz monitor like those OPtix from alienware and the Asus 120hz 23" one or the Acer 120hz 23". Is there a noticeable difference in using / playing games ? besides using it in 3D mode. Like do you see any differences in games or searching the web, watching videos at 120hz (not in 3D mode)?

Also, do you have to enable 3D mode in order to make the monitor run at 120hz? or you can just use it as 120hz without the 3D?
 
Anyone know the release date in the US for these things?

How will these compare to the current 3d ACER 27" monitor thats out now?
 
There are no proper reviews for the 27" Acer or Samsung 27" panels, all we can do is speculate.

The 120hz Samsung does use an Ultra Clear Panel (glossy), so it will have the most vibrant colors (if it has good contrast/blacks) and clearest image, at the price of relfections. This doesn't mean it will have good color presets, contrast, or overdrive solution though.
 
Whats the difference between the 2 750 and 950? They seem to have the same features just different looks? Iam confused lol. I would like to pick one primary for pc gaming in 3D just not sure which one to choose!
 
Pretty sure the 9xx series has an hdtv tuner and extra stuff like that. They also have different structural designs.
 
The difference between 9 and 7 is the design. The difference between T and S is tuner and other TV stuff on the T series.
 
Awesome thanks for the responses guys and now May cannot get here soon enough!
 
The bezel on that 950 is insanely thin. Great for eyefinity.

I am super confused by their product site, though. http://www.samsung.com/ua_ru/system/consumer/product/flagship/lt27a950exua/

"Other advancements that set the Samsung HDTV Monitor TA950 apart from other monitors are the panel backlight, which activates only when the Shutter is closed. Thus optimising the 3D Experience and also saving on energy output."


"The Samsung HDTV monitor TA950 feature the Magic Angle Vertical to deliver a picture-perfect screen even when not viewed from directly in front. This means that you can watch your monitor sitting down, standing up or lying on the couch and still enjoy a great view. And with 20 different angle steps (10 up and 10 down) you will always have a choice to match your position. So, when watching with Magic Angle Vertical, which is even also specialised for HDTV, it feels like you’re always standing right in front of the screen… even if you aren’t."


Something about a backlight flicker when in 3D mode, and I have no idea what they are trying to describe in regards to the vertical viewing angle. It doesn't look like the monitor is tilt adjustable, yet they are implying there is some sort of setting to adjust the perception of the view angle??
 
okashira said:
and I have no idea what they are trying to describe in regards to the vertical viewing angle. It doesn't look like the monitor is tilt adjustable, yet they are implying there is some sort of setting to adjust the perception of the view angle??
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I know some Samsung TN monitors have "Magic Angle" which just makes the picture brighter and is basically useless since it doesn't solve the usual top vs bottom difference in colors. They do mention Magic Angle Vertical this this time so maybe there is some kind of color compensation built in although i doubt it. Probably just different steps of brightness or something.
 
What a mysterious product, i hope this is a positive thing for gamers.
 
Impatiently waiting for these to be released.

I'd hate to see these A750's/A950's receiving poor reviews, or ending up being too expensive.

I'm kinda worried about the A750 now. Will 120hz@2D through D-sub/VGA be a problem?
 
Anyone find any information when these monitors are available for purchase? I thought it was supposed to be may!!!
 
I have been holding out on all other 3D/120hz monitors to get this one, mainly for 120hz.

I was reading a review someone in Korea wrote and I couldn't tell if the monitor has a DP.

check out part 1 of the review here.

http://viewit.kr/401

If you scroll down you can see where the reviewer took pictures of all the monitors connections.
 
OP20 said:
Anyone find any information when these monitors are available for purchase? I thought it was supposed to be may!!!
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Same, all this waiting for tech is pissing me off.

Been waiting for a phone since Feb.

Waited forever for a laptop that didn't have SB issues.

Now I'm waiting on a freakin' display that doesn't even have a solid release date.

I don't even know the price, I wish I did because Koreans are selling them on Ebay for $900 or so with free expedited shipping. I'm half tempted just to buy there..
 
I am really looking forward to the S27A950 for 120Hz 2D. Do not buy one of those from Ebay! They are all the T27A950 version which cannot do true 120Hz!
 
Vega said:
I am really looking forward to the S27A950 for 120Hz 2D. Do not buy one of those from Ebay! They are all the T27A950 version which cannot do true 120Hz!
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Some of them come with the 3D glasses in box, want to explain how they don't do "True 120hz" ? :p
 
the T is for TV. Most 3d ready TVs only accept 60hz signals and will not let you set 120hz refresh rate from your computer. Pretty sure only 3d computer monitors will let you set the 2d refresh to 120hz for that silky smooth picture all of us dream about.

Just get the S version.
 
OP20 said:
the T is for TV. Most 3d ready TVs only accept 60hz signals and will not let you set 120hz refresh rate from your computer. Pretty sure only 3d computer monitors will let you set the 2d refresh to 120hz for that silky smooth picture all of us dream about.

Just get the S version.
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That's odd, I'll have to investigate further.

I do believe they'll do 3D via PS3 and the like via HDMI 1.4, I was also looking to have some of the features the TV version has (minus the input lag, hopefully)

I think I'll just wait until the last few days of May. If Samsung still says nothing I'll order up.
 
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T27A950 PDF Manual
The optimum display resolution is 1920x1080@60Hz. The optimum Timing mode is a vertical resolution of 60 Hz.

If a vertical-frequency option exists on your display settings dialog box, the correct value is “60” or “60 Hz”.

1920x1080p @24Hz (Source signal format) -> 1920x2205p @24Hz (Standard HDMI 1.4 3D)
1280x720p @60Hz (Source signal format) -> 1820x1470p @60Hz (Standard HDMI 1.4 3D) <--- Typo in the manual, it should be 1280x1470p @60hz
1280x720p @50Hz (Source signal format) -> 1280x1470p @50Hz (Standard HDMI 1.4 3D)
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The T27A950 will do 3D just fine, but it definitely doesn't accept any input greater than 1920x1080@60Hz. It doesn't even mention 120Hz in the entire manual.
 
It's quite silly, the T-models are marketed as tv/monitor combos but are in reality just small really expensive TN TV:s. (The quality of the panel looks awesome though, far above any other TN i've seen, and actual LED back-lit with local dimming instead of edge-lit - same as samsungs top of the line tv:s. They have no inputs capable of 120hz at all.

There are only two possible reasons anyone would ever buy these T-models:
1. You live in a really really small room where you under no circumstance can fit a tv/monitor larger than 23 or 27" or fit a monitor AND a tv. (for the same price of the T27A950 you could buy a 22-24" 120hz monitor AND a 32" LED TV).

2. The 2d-3d conversion turns out to be awesome (which i doubt, since major movie studios take ages to convert 2d-3d and this is done in realtime), and in any case you could just get the monitor 950 version with actual 120hz and the same conversion. If you want to watch tv just connect a tv-box through hdmi or so?

On the other hand, the monitor versions seem awesome, S27/23A950D and S23/27A750D.
I'm getting one of these for sure, i've always wanted a 120hz monitor with back-lit LED ever since i first saw a TV with it - the current edge lit all have such bad blacks and at least a little backlight bleed. Judging from CES videos in high quality the blacks, viewing angles and picture quality are really good, my guess is that this is the screen for all of us who always wanted a 120hz IPS. (Samsung at CES said that this panel is a "proprietary, samsung only" "best possible TN panel").

Btw, does anyone happen to know if displayport adds more input lag than dl-dvi? (DP out on gf gtx 590, displayport in on the 750-series for example?)
What about the DRM crap built into the evil DP standard, does that add input lag somehow due to encoding the signal?
 
senna89 said:
what do u think about ?
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It's a personal preference, noone can tell you if glossy or matte is best for you.

Generally though, if your display is in a dark room, glossy is best, if in a bright room perhaps even with sunlight leaking in, matte is best.
 
The only reason a consumer would be the T series is because they are ignorant when it comes to LCDs, or like mentioned above can not fit anythong >27" (which will be extremely rare). For the price of these things one could get a decent 32" x-VA LCD or plasma.

Senna I really hope you don't make a new thread. Samsung uses what they call a "Ultra Clear Panel," which is the same as a Glossy panel. Use google and do some research before making another 1 question thread about a monitor you won't buy.
 
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senna89 said:
what do u think about ?
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The S27A750 monitor is designed with a TN panel and features Samsung’s Ultra Clear Panel technology, which combines a glossy display that maintains ease of viewing through an anti-glare matte finish.
 
What is worrying me is that even though the S27A950 has DVI-D and DP, it won't run at true 120Hz input. If that is true, that would be epic failure on Samsung's part and I would have wasted a lot of time waiting for this monitor.

Waiting in anticipation on the news. The only other contender that I know about is the mythical 27" 120Hz that Asus never talks about releasing (besides the already released Acer).
 
The monitor versions will work with 120hz input according to the product page.
I have ordered one to be delivered in 4 days, so i can confirm it for sure by then (unless it gets delayed again).
 
Morkai said:
The monitor versions will work with 120hz input according to the product page.
I have ordered one to be delivered in 4 days, so i can confirm it for sure by then (unless it gets delayed again).
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Where did you order it?!?
 
4800 SEK = about $750. That is worth it if this monitor is as good as I am hoping it will be. I just got an email from Asus stating that their 27" 120Hz will be released in June. I am looking forward more to the Samsung as its gorgeous! Morkai you must report back your finding as soon as you get this bad boy. ;)
 
Vega said:
4800 SEK = about $750. That is worth it if this monitor is as good as I am hoping it will be. I just got an email from Asus stating that their 27" 120Hz will be released in June. I am looking forward more to the Samsung as its gorgeous! Morkai you must report back your finding as soon as you get this bad boy. ;)
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The 4800SEK is without tax, so add that as well. Here it's 25% on electronics, so i had to pay 6000SEK (around $950).
 
What will back-lit monitors do for a TN panel exactly. Nullify backlight bleed, and improve the quality of dynamic contrast? Will it help viewing angles any?
 
Morkai said:
The 4800SEK is without tax, so add that as well. Here it's 25% on electronics, so i had to pay 6000SEK (around $950).
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We generally do not have to pay tax on mail order items in the US. ;)
 
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