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The HD cage is riveted to the case and bay above it with ~9 rivets that are probably fairly easy to punch out, but not get back in.

rivets.JPG
 
roofone said:
I bought one today for $12 + $6 shipping. I'll let you know what installation is like. I contacted them using the form on their website
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How did you find out about it? How is it installed? I went to their site yesterday, but I didn't see it listed anywhere. How do I order one? Which case it is for?
 
AQ_OC said:
How did you find out about it? How is it installed? I went to their site yesterday, but I didn't see it listed anywhere. How do I order one? Which case it is for?
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I ordered it for my ft02. It wasn't on their website; I emailed them asking about a "USB 3.0 retrofit kit for my case" using the form here: http://www.silverstonetek.com/contactus.php. Joel emailed me back very quickly.

No idea what the install process will be.
 
Hi guys, I have a crazy question for you.
Do you think it is possible to have two systems inside the FT02 ? I know it's crazy, but it would be convenient. I am prepared to do some moding, but even so it could be impossible. I have a full size 1156 board in there and was thinking if it's possible to add a mATX board in there too.
I am not using and DVD drives, so that space is available and I could remove the HDD cages. Also, I only have one video card and the rest of the PCI slots are free so there could be some space too.

Basically I want another system for network rendering, I just need to plug in the power and network cable to it.

Let me know if you have some ideas that can help me.
Thanks
 
Sorry if this has been discussed (thread is getting quite long now) ...

Has anyone experimented at all with reversing the 180mm fans and having all 3 exhaust out the bottom of the case? I use a Corsair H70 in a push/pull configuration and thought that maybe if a person was to reverse that as well, and have it bring air into the case, that having the 3 180s move air out, that you could get rid of the hot air produced by vid cards and the cpu.

Or is it really better to just let the CPU coller take the air brought in from the 180s and shoot it out the top?
 
schmittmj said:
Sorry if this has been discussed (thread is getting quite long now) ...

Has anyone experimented at all with reversing the 180mm fans and having all 3 exhaust out the bottom of the case? I use a Corsair H70 in a push/pull configuration and thought that maybe if a person was to reverse that as well, and have it bring air into the case, that having the 3 180s move air out, that you could get rid of the hot air produced by vid cards and the cpu.

Or is it really better to just let the CPU coller take the air brought in from the 180s and shoot it out the top?
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No, you would be forcing heat down which goes against physics. Heat rises so the motherboard is rotated to dissipate heat more efficiently.
The FT02 is best in class in cooling and doesn't need any improvements to the design as of now.

Heat from the GPUs go straight up, so don't worry about heat being sucked up by the H70.


horia.ancas said:
Hi guys, I have a crazy question for you.
Do you think it is possible to have two systems inside the FT02 ? I know it's crazy, but it would be convenient. I am prepared to do some moding, but even so it could be impossible. I have a full size 1156 board in there and was thinking if it's possible to add a mATX board in there too.
I am not using and DVD drives, so that space is available and I could remove the HDD cages. Also, I only have one video card and the rest of the PCI slots are free so there could be some space too.

Basically I want another system for network rendering, I just need to plug in the power and network cable to it.

Let me know if you have some ideas that can help me.
Thanks
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You're better off buying a <$50 case to hold your secondary PC. Get one that can hold a good amount of HDDs.
That will save you time and prevent you from ruining a good FT02. It doesn't sound like a good idea. Why?
You'll have to remove the HDD cage, then what? The case becomes useless. After that a second board still would not fit, and then you'll have a dismantled case that needs to be reassembled.
 
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horia.ancas said:
Hi guys, I have a crazy question for you.
Do you think it is possible to have two systems inside the FT02 ? I know it's crazy, but it would be convenient. I am prepared to do some moding, but even so it could be impossible. I have a full size 1156 board in there and was thinking if it's possible to add a mATX board in there too.
I am not using and DVD drives, so that space is available and I could remove the HDD cages. Also, I only have one video card and the rest of the PCI slots are free so there could be some space too.

Basically I want another system for network rendering, I just need to plug in the power and network cable to it.

Let me know if you have some ideas that can help me.
Thanks
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Hmm I think you could pull it off with some work.

If you don't have huge GPU inside you could try mounting small ITX sized mobo on the side panel where normally you have window.

Or since you don't use more tha 1 grahic card you could replace you mobos with 2x ITX mobo or m-atx+ITX mobos in normal space.

But honestly speaking it sounds like kinda waste - get
http://www.cooling.pl/antec-isk300150-miniitx-desktop-150w,produkt,552373.html?from_category=107_216
something like this antec and build your system inside.
With it's size you can put it under display or hide in some corner.
 
Hi All,

I'm moving my rig (2xHD5850CF w/ Scythe Musashi's) to an FT02, but have concerns about VGA cooling as has been expressed on this thread numerous times. I emailed Silverstonetek about the Scythe musashi, and they said cooling performance would be decreased due to heatpipe orientation, in line with what's been said here. Great. My stock VGA coolers have horizontally oriented heatpipes, but they exhaust mostly downwards (towards the bottom of the FT02), which they say decreases performance.

So I have two questions:

1) are there any VGA coolers that owners know works well in the FT02

2) One my cards takes up the 6th and 7th expansion slots. My optical drive clearance is fine but is it going to get enough airflow?

Should I just get an Antec 1200 and be done with it? Does anyone have CF experience with that? Reviews are unanimously great but so are the FT02 reviews, it comes down to users for more rigorous testing across different platforms sometimes.

Thanks for any advice!
 
You could upgrade those 5850 to 6850/70 with Asus Direct CU or MSI twin Fr... cooling.

If bitcoin mining craze is still going around you could probably make it zero cost upgrade.
 
Michaelius said:
You could upgrade those 5850 to 6850/70 with Asus Direct CU or MSI twin Fr... cooling.

If bitcoin mining craze is still going around you could probably make it zero cost upgrade.
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Thanks, but bitcoin value has been volatile and I'd rather not go through all the trouble anyway, so upgrading to the 6850/70 doesn't really appeal to me. The HD5850's have been working great.

If cooling them in the FT02 is going to be a problem I'll just pick up an Antec 1200, the FT02 seems overall a beautifully designed case, and my experiences with the GD04 have been overall very positive, but if it can't cool my configuration then there's no point.

I'm hoping the case has been around long enough that someone might have a similar rig i.e. HD5850/70 CF with one card in the 6/7 expansion slots in the FT02.
 
darunium said:
Oh interesting, why is that? Is it optimized for bitcoin mining?
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The HD6800/9000 series is a finer balance between memory bandwidth, compute, and setup engine. The HD5800 series is just raw compute power... (litterally, double the previous gen in compute, not so much in memory, etc)
 
jeremyshaw said:
The HD6800/9000 series is a finer balance between memory bandwidth, compute, and setup engine. The HD5800 series is just raw compute power... (litterally, double the previous gen in compute, not so much in memory, etc)
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Cool, still I just bought the HD5850 and I've got other components to sell so I'm enh on changing my setup right now.
 
darunium said:
Thanks, but bitcoin value has been volatile and I'd rather not go through all the trouble anyway, so upgrading to the 6850/70 doesn't really appeal to me. The HD5850's have been working great.

If cooling them in the FT02 is going to be a problem I'll just pick up an Antec 1200, the FT02 seems overall a beautifully designed case, and my experiences with the GD04 have been overall very positive, but if it can't cool my configuration then there's no point.

I'm hoping the case has been around long enough that someone might have a similar rig i.e. HD5850/70 CF with one card in the 6/7 expansion slots in the FT02.
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If you're dead set on that cooler, get a Corsair 650D or HAF X instead.
 
WorldExclusive said:
If you're dead set on that cooler, get a Corsair 650D or HAF X instead.
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I'd be fine using the stock coolers if those worked, I just wanted confirmation that stock cooling solutions don't have trouble inside the FT02. With all the worries out there I got concerned.

I looked at the HAFX and 650D but with the Antec 1200 selling for around $120 used and it's great reviews I'm more comfortable with the 1200.

I'll prolly go with the 1200. The FT02 is just so beautiful, but at half the price it's hard to beat the 1200, even with the LEDs (which kind of annoy me)
 
If you're will to stay with the stock coolers then you're fine. The aftermarket coolers could be an issue.
The case cools and looks better than anything in the same price bracket. I'll get the FT02 and build around it, than building around video cards you may swap out at some point.
 
I'd suggest liquid coolers like the Corsair h50/h70 or the Antec Kuhler, because of the fact that both the fans are on the outlet of the case, so there is no problem with the case fan running slower than the cooler's, thus ruining the cooler's airflow. :D
 
People have probably seen this, but having looked through a ton of reviews over the last few day's I've gotta plug these guys for doing a great job reviewing:

http://++++++++++++++++.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=546&Itemid=61

Usually bit-tech or spcr takes the cake but benchmark reviews did a really thorough job with an aspect of computer components that I've learned the hard way is one of the most important: little aspects of design and compatability. What works for one system doesn't work for all of them, and its nice to see reviewers successfully teasing out the possible issues and advantages for possible configurations.

They could do with more performance comparisons, besides the Level 10 GT, but besides that it stood out.
 
it worked!

I'm still up in the air between the FT02 and the 1200, we'll see, I'll do more thinking. The FT02 is so attractive; it'll run quieter, look better, and not have those LEDs on all the time, but at half the price the 1200 will work for what I need, probably delivering similar cooling.
 
Damn, I can't believe I didn't notice it before but the left side panel (behind the motherboard) is warped, kind of bends out :|

I wonder how I can remedy that.
 
capitalj said:
Damn, I can't believe I didn't notice it before but the left side panel (behind the motherboard) is warped, kind of bends out :|

I wonder how I can remedy that.
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It's probably cabling, make sure everything you get everything laying as flat as possible, in the grooves.

I ordered the FT02 btw, I'm just too excited by it, and think it has a good chance of some great thermals for air cooling. I'm going to try it with the stock coolers, but if it doesn't work well or is too noisy I'll put AC Twin Turbos on them, I think that that pipe orientation should work as well as any. Anyone have experience with AC products? How is the build quality?

I wish I could find a VGA cooler that is designed to vent out he back, like the reference AMD heatsinks but with a less noisy fan (maybe two 92mm fans instead of 1 80mm? it would still need a shroud to direct airflow and, more importantly, the fan can't have normal blades it would have to have the vertical notched style, like air beaters, to push the air outwards instead of down).


Has anyone tried a passive cooling solution? At least for the middle card it seems like the perfect case for it.
 
USB 3.0 came today. Install was easy, took 10 minutes tops, and most of that was re-routing cables. Now if I only had a USB 3.0 device...

ft02_usb3.JPG
 
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Hi Rurki,

Did the 5bay Array cage unscrew, or did you have to take a Dremel to the case in order to remove it?

James
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The drive cage comes out with the rivets. However, if you remove the cage it would mess up the stability of the 5.25 bays. I cut the cage out, leaving the top of the cage intact.
 
Interested to see how the Corsair H100 will fit in this case. Maybe I'll be the ginuea pig since I'm looking to build a new system.
 
roofone said:
USB 3.0 came today. Install was easy, took 10 minutes tops, and most of that was re-routing cables. Now if I only had a USB 3.0 device...

ft02_usb3.JPG
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Good to hear. No idea when I'll get mine with this damn Canada Post strike. :(
 
Doing my first complete rig build. Let me know what you guys think?

Silverstone Ft02 Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163161&cm_re=ft02-_-11-163-161-_-Product

i7 2600k Sandy Bridge Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_re=i7_sandy_bridge-_-19-115-070-_-Product

Asus Z68 Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730

Corsair AX850 PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

8GB G.Skill Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

GPU GTX 460 Overclocked (will have in SLI):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130567

Corsair H100 Colling system:
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydr...00-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html

10kRPM 150 GB Velociraptor Hard Drives (in current rig):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...296&cm_re=velociraptor-_-22-136-296-_-Product

Scythe Fan Controller:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998055
 
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TechSoldier said:
Doing my first complete rig build. Let me know what you guys think?

Silverstone Ft02 Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163161&cm_re=ft02-_-11-163-161-_-Product

i7 2600k Sandy Bridge Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_re=i7_sandy_bridge-_-19-115-070-_-Product

Asus Z68 Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729

Corsair AX850 PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

8GB G.Skill Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

GPU GTX 460 Overclocked (will have in SLI):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130567

Corsair H100 Colling system:
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydr...00-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html

10kRPM 150 GB Velociraptor Hard Drives (in current rig):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...296&cm_re=velociraptor-_-22-136-296-_-Product

Scythe Fan Controller:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998055
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Looks good, a couple notes:

- eventually you'll want to change the 150GB HDDs with a 160GB SSD. Not only will your system run smoother and cooler (you won't see an fps increase, but you will see substantial performance boosts in your general OS operation, boot time, load times, and any productivity applications). This is especially true in the FT02, as if you only have 1 SSD and no HDDs, you can empty out the HDD cage and remove those holders giving the far left fan way more access to one of your SLI cards.

- Especially in this case water cooling is unneccesary unless you want to do some serious overclocking of the CPU. If you do then go for it, but especially in your first build I wouldn't adopt the hassles of a radiator in the FT02 for what will give you only marginally better gaming performance on current-gen games. This is especially the case if you want to focus on gaming where cooling the 460s effectively is far more important. Note also that you have serious height limitations if you put the radiator in the bottom of the FT02. If you route it outside, you have to figure out where to put it and how to route it.
 
Thanks for the recomendations. Personally I prefer the water cooled solution simply because the Sandy Bridge i7 will allow me to easily overclock and this is added assurance for cooling.

I do like the idea of going with a SSD, especially if I can squeeze in another fan or just provide more air flow as you suggest. Since im running RAID right now with my raptor drives I think I can live with it for now or at least until the prices of SSDs come down a little.
 
If you really want to go with water cooling, take a h80 or a kuhler 920, which fits in place of the fan on the top and works without hassle. :D
 
TechSoldier said:
Thanks for the recomendations. Personally I prefer the water cooled solution simply because the Sandy Bridge i7 will allow me to easily overclock and this is added assurance for cooling.

I do like the idea of going with a SSD, especially if I can squeeze in another fan or just provide more air flow as you suggest. Since im running RAID right now with my raptor drives I think I can live with it for now or at least until the prices of SSDs come down a little.
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In the FT02 you should probably be able to accomplish a hefty overclock on the i7 with air cooling, but others could tell you better.
 
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