bigdogchris
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Just taking a quick tally of configuration and cost thoughts on the PS5 Digital Edition vs the disk based version.
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Obviously we don't know. But I would say not having the BD drive and paying licensing would save $50 off the cost. Then if you wanted the digital with a larger drive it might be $50 more than disc version.how much of a price difference?...I already have a 4K Blu-ray player so Digital is the one for me...
Obviously we don't know. But I would say not having the BD drive and paying licensing would save $50 off the cost. Then if you wanted the digital with a larger drive it might be $50 more than disc version.
Rules out the ability of finding cheap older physical copies as well, which can be nice in the rare occasion of a game being removed from the store. I think a few Activision games have had that happen after licenses expire, Deadpool I believe was one and I think Transformers (the one made by Platinum).hopefully the Digital version just removes the disc drive and doesn't gimp any of the other features/hardware...buying the Digital version also rules out your ability to trade in games so that's another factor
I just get better deals with the Disc based games all the time (not used either but new disc based games). Discs also get discounted earlier than digital and you don't have to have that whole subscribe to PS+ to get a discount either. But I do really dislike the whole disc dongle thing. The trade in thing doesn't even apply to me, I tried it once for a game I didn't really like and I just laughed telling them I might as well just keep it for the offered price. Pointing on the shelf where it was being sold at 3x-4x what they offered to me.
Reselling games is something I do when done, so this is a bummer. And you can get physical games cheap because they need to sell them. While Steam has great sales on PC games I don't know if we see equal quality of sales on PSN. Going all digital will likely cost us all more money, even though publishers are saving big bucks.hopefully the Digital version just removes the disc drive and doesn't gimp any of the other features/hardware...buying the Digital version also rules out your ability to trade in games so that's another factor
Sony actually has a ton of sales throughout the year with a lot hitting 75% or more off. My friend just got Dark Souls 3 deluxe edition for $14 I think (obviously the markdown is from the original MSRP)Reselling games is something I do when done, so this is a bummer. And you can get physical games cheap because they need to sell them. While Steam has great sales on PC games I don't know if we see equal quality of sales on PSN. Going all digital will likely cost us all more money, even though publishers are saving big bucks.
Some rumors on PS5 pricing came out recently. Prices I read are in Euros but they are typically the same as USD so I'm listing as USD.
Disc version $500. Digital version $400. Controllers $60. Headset $180. Wireless Remote $30. Web Cam $60.
*EDIT*
Just saw this was posted in news earlier today.
https://www.techpowerup.com/269181/...ailability-leaked-eur100-premium-for-bd-drive
I understand what they convert to, but if you look at many consoles and games the Euro and USD amount are the same.499€ / 399€ converts to $563 / $450. Assuming the rumor is accurate, I wonder if Sony will go for parity and price in the US at $550 / $450 or if they will snub Europe and give us $399 / $499. Probably safe to assume the later, as you say, that's how it's always been.
In any event, these prices seem realistic to me. Obviously adding a disk drive is nowhere near $100 in material cost for Sony, but this moves makes sense. A diskless consoles leaves the potential for more profit on the software, which could help justify a greater loss on the hardware. Sony has a lot to gain by convincing people to save $100 and pass on the disks.
It also gives MS the opportunity to undercut them and launch at $399 AND include a disk drive. They haven't made mention yet of a diskless SKU, and the rumored lockhart is running a different race if the specs are to be believed. In any case, the fact that both MS are being so coy about price and release date when we're only 3-4 months away from their release window is pretty telling that both companies are looking to be aggressive this cycle, which is good for the consumer.
I understand what they convert to, but if you look at many consoles and games the Euro and USD amount are the same.
https://www.ign.com/articles/capcom-80-digital-game-sales-monster-hunter-world
Articles like this show that there really is demand for a digital only console. Maybe not among the [H] per se, but for a lot of console gamers at least.
I like the remote. Hopefully, the UHD Blu-Ray drive is capable of Dolby Vision and Atmos. If it is, along with a convenient remote, you could save the space and wiring for a stand alone player.Some rumors on PS5 pricing came out recently. Prices I read are in Euros but they are typically the same as USD so I'm listing as USD.
Disc version $500. Digital version $400. Controllers $60. Headset $180. Wireless Remote $30. Web Cam $60.
*EDIT*
Just saw this was posted in news earlier today.
https://www.techpowerup.com/269181/...ailability-leaked-eur100-premium-for-bd-drive
Disc drive are generally easy fixes. I haven't heard a big issue with PS4 drives going bad.Some games get patched to shit after you buy the original game the main problem with the PS4 was the disk drive going bad in this case it's one less thing to go bad games really dont appreciate in value anymore not like the old SNES games where their were no updates to be applied to the game because the internet wasnt around back then.
I like the remote. Hopefully, the UHD Blu-Ray drive is capable of Dolby Vision and Atmos. If it is, along with a convenient remote, you could save the space and wiring for a stand alone player.
If I wasn't in need of a UHD Blu-Ray player I'd definitely buy the digital-only model. Depending on what the final pricing and availability are like, I still might.
Hopefully those Amazon pre-orders go up soon. I've been through too many zany console releases and have zero desire to wait in lines or hammer nowinstock.net.
Some games get patched to shit after you buy the original game the main problem with the PS4 was the disk drive going bad in this case it's one less thing to go bad games really dont appreciate in value anymore not like the old SNES games where their were no updates to be applied to the game because the internet wasnt around back then.
I really feel like the disk drive option is going to be a poor option for most people. I think Sony is only doing it because they think they have to, because nobody wants to face the DRM backlash MS faced when they announced XO. Think about it... every PS5 game requires the SSD, meaning every physical copy needs to be installed in it's entirety on the console. We're talking about games where 50-100GB (or more) is going to be the new normal. Install times off a disc are going to be annoyingly long, meaning the fastest way to play any new games will be digital with a preload. The long installs will be counter-productive to things like bringing a game to a buddies. Likewise your not saving premium storage space on your console. The only benefit is the ability to lend and sell your games, and that market is dying.
As a 4K BR player, I'd tread lightly. Game consoles traditionally make for poor movie players. The Xbox One is a terrible 4K BR player, just about any standalone player is a better experience. Xbox doesn't handle bitstream audio well, and does goofy things like trying to convert everything to one audio format. So, for example, if you're set to bitstream out Atmos, Xbox makes everything Atmos, even if it doesn't support it. This doesn't work well, and even sometimes the Xbox fails to pass actual Atmos in favor of it's own Atmos upmixing.
I think you can say with certainty that it will support both. I'd still tread lightly, see my example above about the Xbox's "support" of Atmos. Not saying PS5 will have the same problem, but it's something I'd want to investigate. If the disk drive model is $100 more as rumored, IMO you're better off putting that $100 towards a standalone player (unless your willing to wait until people have this in-hand and take a closer look into how well this plays movies)