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processor for the pc gaming?

have you read some of the other threads in the forums....

Also, with what little, well no info you have given, how can we help you?

What games?
What resolution?
What detail?
 
3570k is the standard. I'm perfectly happy with my i5 760 but the damn thing is still the same price as the 3570k no clue why.
 
MrGuvernment said:
have you read some of the other threads in the forums....

Also, with what little, well no info you have given, how can we help you?

What games?
What resolution?
What detail?
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This +1
piscian18 said:
3570k is the standard. I'm perfectly happy with my i5 760 but the damn thing is still the same price as the 3570k no clue why.
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Intel generally keeps the prices of their older generation CPUs high to better promote their new CPUs. When the Core i5 760 was the main recommended gaming CPU, the older Core 2 Duo E8400 was still around the same price range.
 
define "best".

Bang / buck?
performance (absolute fastest)

low heat, low cost?

everybody has different criteria. for example, best cpu for a computer with a total computer cost of <$400 would not be the same recommendation as a computer with a $3000 budget.
 
Very Cheap: i3 2120
Standard: i5 3570k
Expensive: i7 3930k
 
I7 is the best but overkill

If you want good gaming with a tiny footprint go i3 if you want longevity with still a small footprint go i5.

If you want cheap and don't mind the heat go with amd.
 
Trimlock said:
I7 is the best but overkill

If you want good gaming with a tiny footprint go i3 if you want longevity with still a small footprint go i5.

If you want cheap and don't mind the heat go with amd.
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no actually its not.

generally its about the same performance, the only thing you get is hyper threading which can have negative effects on games.

thats why people suggest i5 3570 instead of i7 3770k
 
Depends. Let's be clear: are you really talking about "the" PC gaming, or just ordinary, run-of-the-mill PC gaming?

The difference could mean life or death.
 
Skillz said:
i7s are not gaming CPUs.
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LOL Mine must be an aberration because it runs all my games buttery smooth.

OP,

Go with what your budget can afford. Hardware has definitely caught up to software and most games (not all) now are very GPU dependant especially at high resolutions. Go with an i5 K series and spend a little more on a decent GPU. You can overclock both. I got my i7 because I game and I like to do some video encoding and some light photo shop work which just loves Hyper threading. SSD's also make computing and gaming a joy so invest in one if you can.

Oh and I have yet so see a game limited by hyper threading on any perceptible level. If you just do gaming then go with i5 but if you want gaming and some multithreaded benefits then go with an i7. Good luck.
 
biggles said:
How is the core i7 920 holding up versus the newer procs for gaming?
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overclocked it does just fine. i have seen plenty of people using it still with no feelings of limitation.

not overclocked though probably see a noticeable gain
 
piscian18 said:
What do you mean by that exactly?
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The major difference between the i5 and i7 processors is the fact that the i7 has hyper threading. It's a proven fact that games do not take advantage of the HT in the i7; thus making the i5 the true gamers CPU.

This does not mean that an i7 CAN NOT be used to play games, as I use mine to play games on it.

Rizen said:
Regardless, the i7 3930k is a superior CPU for gaming than the i5 3570k. Note that I recommended the i5 if you have a reasonable budget.
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Proof that the i7 3930k plays game better than an i5 3570k?

Disable HT on your i7 and I be you wont notice an iota of performance difference in your gaming experience. ;)
 
Skillz said:
The major difference between the i5 and i7 processors is the fact that the i7 has hyper threading. It's a proven fact that games do not take advantage of the HT in the i7; thus making the i5 the true gamers CPU.

This does not mean that an i7 CAN NOT be used to play games, as I use mine to play games on it.



Proof that the i7 3930k plays game better than an i5 3570k?

Disable HT on your i7 and I be you wont notice an iota of performance difference in your gaming experience. ;)
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Ok, let me get this straight, you say that i7 has hyper threading and games don't take advantage of it.
Then you say to disable hyper threading and you wont notice a difference in performance when gaming when compared to the i5

Sense, this makes none
 
KaOTiK said:
Ok, let me get this straight, you say that i7 has hyper threading and games don't take advantage of it.
Then you say to disable hyper threading and you wont notice a difference in performance when gaming when compared to the i5

Sense, this makes none
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HT doesn't hurt performance, nor does it give performance in gaming. It's simply a non factor majority of the time. Some people report stuttering in games with HT enabled, some people (like myself) don't seem to have an issue with it.

If you turn HT off on your processor (Assuming you're running an i7), your performance will not decrease, nor will it increase any substantial amount.
 
Skillz said:
Proof that the i7 3930k plays game better than an i5 3570k?
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It has more L3 cache and more cores. It will perform at least as good as an i5 3570k on anything that is not well multi-threaded, and as more games move to better threaded engines, it will perform better. BF3 can leverage 6 cores now. That is why I suggested it; it's a more aggressive platform and an overall more powerful CPU.
 
Rizen said:
It has more L3 cache and more cores. It will perform at least as good as an i5 3570k on anything that is not well multi-threaded, and as more games move to better threaded engines, it will perform better. BF3 can leverage 6 cores now. That is why I suggested it; it's a more aggressive platform and an overall more powerful CPU.
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nobody is arguing about the strength of the CPU. you are trying to hard to argue about nothing haha.
 
Skillz said:
HT doesn't hurt performance, nor does it give performance in gaming. It's simply a non factor majority of the time. Some people report stuttering in games with HT enabled, some people (like myself) don't seem to have an issue with it.

If you turn HT off on your processor (Assuming you're running an i7), your performance will not decrease, nor will it increase any substantial amount.
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I understand what you are saying, but the way you presented it contradicts itself. You first say it gives no performance, then you say to turn it off to get the same performance as an i5 which implies that it does indeed give performance.

I'm not arguing that it does or does not as I don't care. It's just you did a bad job of making your case with what I originally quoted. Saying one thing while implying another.
 
Skillz said:
The major difference between the i5 and i7 processors is the fact that the i7 has hyper threading. It's a proven fact that games do not take advantage of the HT in the i7; thus making the i5 the true gamers CPU.

This does not mean that an i7 CAN NOT be used to play games, as I use mine to play games on it.



Proof that the i7 3930k plays game better than an i5 3570k?

Disable HT on your i7 and I be you wont notice an iota of performance difference in your gaming experience. ;)
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Ok I get what you're saying. I agree i7 has much larger benefits for number crunchers and people heavy into editing. I chose a i5 760 because for gaming purposes the difference between an i5 760 and i7 860 or i7 920 were negligible.

If you look at Toms Hardware CPU hierarchy chart any quad-core i5 cpu or above gets bundled together at the top because it's really only clocking enthusiasts who can see the difference. I don't plan to go Sandy or Ivy or even the next gen. When my i5 760 can't keep up with Battlefield 5 I'll consider an upgrade. * i run 1920x1200
 
piscian18 said:
Ok I get what you're saying. I agree i7 has much larger benefits for number crunchers and people heavy into editing. I chose a i5 760 because for gaming purposes the difference between an i5 760 and i7 860 or i7 920 were negligible.

If you look at Toms Hardware CPU hierarchy chart any quad-core i5 cpu or above gets bundled together at the top because it's really only clocking enthusiasts who can see the difference. I don't plan to go Sandy or Ivy or even the next gen. When my i5 760 can't keep up with Battlefield 5 I'll consider an upgrade. * i run 1920x1200
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i might skip the 1st gen haswell...might be hard to do though
 
MrGuvernment said:
have you read some of the other threads in the forums....

Also, with what little, well no info you have given, how can we help you?

What games?
What resolution?
What detail?
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Perhaps the OP meant exactly what he said? What is the best processor for gaming? If that's the case then the Core i7 3770K is the ONLY answer. Clock for clock it is the fastest CPU for gaming regardless of budget. Games will not leverage the extra cores or threads offered by the Sandy Bridge-E LGA2011 processors. You could argue the platform is better for performance with multiple GPUs and which case the Core i7 3960X is a viable recommendation if budget concerns aren't voiced.

The question was simple and may have been meant exactly as stated. Further information may not have been required or wasn't solicited on purpose. Assuming more information is relevent, your questions still have limited value in determining the recommendation. Faster processors are always faster. It doesn't matter if you are talking low detail vs. high, or 800x600 vs. 7680x1600. And AMD falls behind some pretty low end Intel CPUs in that arena. What you really should be asking are these questions:
  • How much do you have to spend?
  • Do you already have a motherboard?
Your questions are only pertinent if the OP has a severely limited budget. If the OP is fine spending up to $200-$300 or more for a CPU and doesn't have a motherboard at present then it's pretty clear what makes the most sense. A Core i5 3570K or i7 3770K are the best options for his stated goal. If the OP already has an existing AM3+ motherboard then an FX-8350 will offer a better bang for your buck ratio but it will never perform better in any games than the Core i5 3570K or Core i7 3770K do. If the OP is going for a huge multimonitor gaming machine and is going to use multiple graphics cards then budget will most likely be less of a concern and retaining an AM3+ board that he might already have should be less important. And again the Intel options will perform better in all scenarios.

So again the two most important questions relate to budget and existing hardware. The stated goal of having the best processor for gaming requires only a very simple answer(s).

Core i7 3770K -HT can be disabled if necessary, but is there on the rare occasions where extra threads may be valuable in a particular game that scales well with extra cores.

Core i7 3960X -If using the LGA2011 platform for a particular set of reasons, this CPU is the fastest and best choice. Fastest stock operation, more cache, potentially higher overclocks due to binning.

If retaining an existing AM3+ motherboard:

AMD FX-8350 - Allows retention of existing AM3+ hardware and offers many cores and threads for any situation. IPC is lower than that of earlier Phenom II X6 1090T and 1100T processors, but clocks significantly higher.
 
Rizen said:
It has more L3 cache and more cores. It will perform at least as good as an i5 3570k on anything that is not well multi-threaded, and as more games move to better threaded engines, it will perform better. BF3 can leverage 6 cores now. That is why I suggested it; it's a more aggressive platform and an overall more powerful CPU.
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Annd it's always nice to have a few spare cores or threads to do background OS crap or other things. Having a quad core will mean you have not quite 4 cores, whereas a 8 threaded machine will have 4+a few spare, which does seem to help things. Plus you can leave folding@home on 2-6 while you run games. :D
 
All this debate, and the 40 day old newby isn't even back in the thread...who wants to bet it was a thinly veiled spam?
 
TwistedAegis said:
All this debate, and the 40 day old newby isn't even back in the thread...who wants to bet it was a thinly veiled spam?
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Naw. More likely just a true noob. Judging by his other posts.

Still funny seieing how much of a response this thread has had.

Next popular threads:

What is the best gpu for the pc gaming?

What is the best lube for the butt rampaging?
 
Danny Bui said:
This +1

Intel generally keeps the prices of their older generation CPUs high to better promote their new CPUs. When the Core i5 760 was the main recommended gaming CPU, the older Core 2 Duo E8400 was still around the same price range.
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I do not agree with this. The new CPUs actually cost less to make in most cases. This is the harsh reality of silicon development. The other factor is that anything on an old socket will typically fall in price when a new socket comes out then it will climb way back up as supply drops because they know they can force people to choose between an upgrade / replacement and a whole new system. Many people take the upgrade and they make bank on old chips.
 
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