OLED MONITORS!!!!!

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yeah all they have to do is slap a "pro" on it and suddenly that 27 in will probably be $2000+ (which would actually be a "good deal" in that it is half the cost of the 21 inch asus pro pq22uc oled monitor)
 

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yeah all they have to do is slap a "pro" on it and suddenly that 27 in will probably be $2000+ (which would actually be a "good deal" in that it is half the cost of the 21 inch asus pro pq22uc oled monitor)
And get away with 60Hz because it is such a "pro" refresh rate, even though general office use would greatly benefit from going 90Hz+.
 

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yeah all they have to do is slap a "pro" on it and suddenly that 27 in will probably be $2000+ (which would actually be a "good deal" in that it is half the cost of the 21 inch asus pro pq22uc oled monitor)
Come on - that is bullcrap. There is a big market for these monitors in video editing. Sony has very expensive units that are normally used. If these monitors sell for 6K and have the same fidelity and longevity as the sony monitors it will be a HUGE savings for the consumers. Having said that I would like (and am hopeful) that sooner than later we will see 27 inch units for gaming.
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Btw phones oled screens seem to do pretty well with regards to longevity. I know the early phones would burn in after a year but I kept my note 4 for 4 1/2 years and it had minimal or pretty much no burn in. Of course I didn't keep the display on for 8 hours a day 7 days a week for 4 years but ... at least it was better than the first couple of iterations ;)
 

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Btw phones oled screens seem to do pretty well with regards to longevity. I know the early phones would burn in after a year but I kept my note 4 for 4 1/2 years and it had minimal or pretty much no burn in. Of course I didn't keep the display on for 8 hours a day 7 days a week for 4 years but ... at least it was better than the first couple of iterations ;)
Phone OLEDs are not on for hours and hours most of the time and even when they are you are probably watching a movie or something on it. Not even close to desktop use.
 

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Isn't there going to be a 32" version as well? 27" and 4k resolution is a bit overkill.
Yes. Both monitors have the same specs - they are both targeted towards video editing with appropriate refresh rate and colour gammet for such. They are competing against the much (5 digit) more expensive sony monitors.
 

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Less than expected but not worth it for most. Let's hope in a few years they can shave a grand off that price and add some features that make it gaming compatible like 120+ Hz, low input lag and so on.
I figured it would be over $2000 but less than the 21inch $4000 asus oled. Generally technology advances, prices go down, but feels like it has been a decade of waiting for oled to become mainstream, like everyone seemingly predicted back in the day. My guess is the 32 inch will be around $3500, which compared to the 21 inch oled is progress in some ways. People want their small (compared to tv-size) OLED monitors, but every monitor marketed as "pro" is always going to be a lot more expensive. Maybe in 5+ years we'll see $500 27 inch non-pro oled monitors for the rest of us. If that 42 inch oled tv comes out this year, I'm going to seriously consider it. I didn't have the desk space for the 48 inch one, maybe I could make 42 work though
 

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I figured it would be over $2000 but less than the 21inch $4000 asus oled. Generally technology advances, prices go down, but feels like it has been a decade of waiting for oled to become mainstream, like everyone seemingly predicted back in the day. My guess is the 32 inch will be around $3500, which compared to the 21 inch oled is progress in some ways. People want their small (compared to tv-size) OLED monitors, but every monitor marketed as "pro" is always going to be a lot more expensive. Maybe in 5+ years we'll see $500 27 inch non-pro oled monitors for the rest of us. If that 42 inch oled tv comes out this year, I'm going to seriously consider it. I didn't have the desk space for the 48 inch one, maybe I could make 42 work though

If it was less than $2k, I would be in. I think the OLED is still a niche product in this space. Hoping that will change soon.
 

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If that does not include a warranty against burn in, they can forget it.
 

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Nothing against OLED but why would you use it as the PC monitor where you tends to have a lot static windows at the same location all the time. You're just asking for burn ins.
 

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Nothing against OLED but why would you use it as the PC monitor where you tends to have a lot static windows at the same location all the time. You're just asking for burn ins.

I think these are supposed to be for professional photo or video editors. They're used to the limitations and paying 10s of thousands of dollars for a single mastering monitor.

LG's OLED tvs can be used carelessly for a few years before they have any burn in problems and if you're careful with them they'll be good for a lot longer without any problems. But I doubt these monitors are nearly as resilient. They aren't going to have the same kind of burn in prevention measures as a TV, and use a different OLED panel tech.
 

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Nothing against OLED but why would you use it as the PC monitor where you tends to have a lot static windows at the same location all the time. You're just asking for burn ins.
I have have two OLED PVMs primarily for desktop use. They are amazing. I don’t care about the risk of burn in. If it ever happened and it bothered me I’d just buy new ones. Monitors are disposable goods.
 
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I have have two OLED PVMs primarily for desktop use. They are amazing. I don’t care about the risk of burn in. If it ever happened and it bothered me I’d just buy new ones. Monitors are disposable goods.
My mentality as well, better to have state of the art IQ and some risk, than dogshit IQ that lasts. It shits the bed, get another one.
 

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Nothing against OLED but why would you use it as the PC monitor where you tends to have a lot static windows at the same location all the time. You're just asking for burn ins.
I've been using the Dell OLED monitor (and multi OLED TVs.. laptops and phones) and have not burn in. Sure, people can be dummies.. but i've not stressed it and nor should others.

I'm a little bummed that there isn't a gaming version yet. Maybe LG will shrink down their screens a bit smaller (this LG monitor doesn't use a LG screen.)
I might take a look at mini-LED gaming monitors.. maybe.. i do love me some oled.
 

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They dragged their feet, but better late than never. Prices probably wont be pretty though considering what they charge for nano IPS.
 

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They dragged their feet, but better late than never. Prices probably wont be pretty though considering what they charge for nano IPS.
No kidding. I was thinking about getting a 34” ultra wide but I really like my Pixio px275h, so I think I’ll wait until there’s a 27” OLED and just dual monitor with that. IPS for work and stuff, oled for games and entertainment, wouldn’t be a bad combo at all.
 

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Well.... here is the start. 4K OLED 32" 60hz. For only $3900, at least where I live. Add 120hz and VRR (or hardware gsync 🥳) and we will never look back at the missing kidney.
Why would anyone buy that over a cx/c148 :/. Hell you can get the 77" for less....
 

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Looking for a new monitor actually got me upset about the state of the market. especially the lack of hdmi 2.1 (wanted to use with ps5). Monitors that were announced last year or in 2019 are still not out. Then the ridiculous prices. It makes better sense to get an oled tv. The announcement of the LG oled monitors gave hope but we are years from the prices making sense. and 60hz is unacceptable for several thousand dollars.
 

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And DP, so you don't need unobtainium to run 4K 120hz RGB.
It's only 60 Hz so that is not applicable either.

But yeah, there's certainly want (rather than demand) for OLEDs that are more practical to use as desktop monitors. I love my CX 48" but it needs to be wall mounted or put on a floor stand to put it far away enough to be practical to use. If LG releases a 42" model next year either as a TV or as a monitor then that will be small enough to work for most while still fitting on a deep desk.

I get that people would rather have something even smaller than that but it really does come down to viewing distance.
 

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Why would anyone buy that over a cx/c148 :/. Hell you can get the 77" for less....
Because the people its targeted at already spend thousands on monitors and aren't price sensitive because its a business monitor and the cost is paid by the business. That's why consumers shouldn't buy pro-focused monitors. Because the price is the primary thing that's pro-focused.
 

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It's only 60 Hz so that is not applicable either.

But yeah, there's certainly want (rather than demand) for OLEDs that are more practical to use as desktop monitors. I love my CX 48" but it needs to be wall mounted or put on a floor stand to put it far away enough to be practical to use. If LG releases a 42" model next year either as a TV or as a monitor then that will be small enough to work for most while still fitting on a deep desk.

I get that people would rather have something even smaller than that but it really does come down to viewing distance.
I was replying to the person who replied about adding VRR and 120hz to it.
 

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Because the people its targeted at already spend thousands on monitors and aren't price sensitive because its a business monitor and the cost is paid by the business. That's why consumers shouldn't buy pro-focused monitors. Because the price is the primary thing that's pro-focused.
Well this is a bit misleading. The monitor does have unique properties that is relevant to the target market and not relevant to gamers. As to the cost of those features - well hard to judge but some of it is due to smallish market size. Anyway these days nothing is getting manufactured so really no loss.
 

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I'm really tempted to get one of those 48" CX (or perhaps the new 2021 C1 version) LG TV, but like many others here I wish there were other options. I'm sure that many gamers would be looking for 27 - 38" (including ultra wide equivalents etc) that had the similar levels of color, brightness / HDR, image quality, but either 120/144hz refresh rates + GSync / FreeSync and latest generation HDMI / DP / DP via USB-C inputs. Its a bit odd to think this is a small market considering that displays are consistently in demand, with things OLED excel at like image quality and HDR highly desirable across the range while certain demographics have other needs (ie gaming looks for the above, but also low input lag, VRR technologies, and high 120/144+ refresh rates supported at 4K) .

I'm strongly considering the 48" C1 as it seems to be a phenomenal gaming and multi-use monitor . It would fit on my ancient IKEA JERKER desk, but it would be even better to mount it on the wall or perhaps a large desk arm mount. I'll have to check to see that the C1 is equal or better vs the CX from 2020 ; its frustrating that the CX 55" seems to go on sale and have open box / refurb discounts with some frequency, but the 48" does not. Likewise, I'm curious how the 2021 C1 48" stacks up to the G1, which is more expensive and only in 55"+ frustratingly (Why?! Why no 48"? ) but the G1 lists having an "Evo" version of the display enhanced vs the C-series. I wonder how big a difference in brightness or other quality it really has, but again it seems foolish not to put the same "evo" display on the C1 series as well or at least offer 48" G1 series. I'm to understand the G1-series are more focused on those who want the very thinnest bezels for a premium price, but otherwise isnt much different than the C1-series it seems. Hopefully reliable reviews will be arriving soon to show the magnitude of differences between C1 and G1, as well as how C1 stands up to last year's CX.
 

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I'm really tempted to get one of those 48" CX (or perhaps the new 2021 C1 version) LG TV, but like many others here I wish there were other options. I'm sure that many gamers would be looking for 27 - 38" (including ultra wide equivalents etc) that had the similar levels of color, brightness / HDR, image quality, but either 120/144hz refresh rates + GSync / FreeSync and latest generation HDMI / DP / DP via USB-C inputs. Its a bit odd to think this is a small market considering that displays are consistently in demand, with things OLED excel at like image quality and HDR highly desirable across the range while certain demographics have other needs (ie gaming looks for the above, but also low input lag, VRR technologies, and high 120/144+ refresh rates supported at 4K) .

I'm strongly considering the 48" C1 as it seems to be a phenomenal gaming and multi-use monitor . It would fit on my ancient IKEA JERKER desk, but it would be even better to mount it on the wall or perhaps a large desk arm mount. I'll have to check to see that the C1 is equal or better vs the CX from 2020 ; its frustrating that the CX 55" seems to go on sale and have open box / refurb discounts with some frequency, but the 48" does not. Likewise, I'm curious how the 2021 C1 48" stacks up to the G1, which is more expensive and only in 55"+ frustratingly (Why?! Why no 48"? ) but the G1 lists having an "Evo" version of the display enhanced vs the C-series. I wonder how big a difference in brightness or other quality it really has, but again it seems foolish not to put the same "evo" display on the C1 series as well or at least offer 48" G1 series. I'm to understand the G1-series are more focused on those who want the very thinnest bezels for a premium price, but otherwise isnt much different than the C1-series it seems. Hopefully reliable reviews will be arriving soon to show the magnitude of differences between C1 and G1, as well as how C1 stands up to last year's CX.
You have to remember that gaming and image quality enthusiasts are still a niche. The average person still buys something that is on sale and cheap enough to justify it and they might use that device for 10+ years if it keeps working. Totally different approach from the gamers and movie buffs chasing ultimate image quality experience. So manufacturers make devices they think are going to sell in sufficient quantities and the niches are served by very expensive products. Building a smaller OLED panel might not have a good enough return for investment to LG, even the 48" models are a byproduct of making better use of the material used to make larger TVs.

My advice to you is to not try to mount the display on your desk. I used a heavy duty monitor arm with an adapter plate at first because that's what I had and my 80cm deep table was just ok. I am much happier using a floor stand that puts it 1m away. The stock LG stand is a huge pile of crap that prevents putting it close to a wall because it sticks so far out the back. Wall mount is the best option if you can do that. Notice that the mounting point on the LG OLEDs is not at the center but at the bottom portion of the display.
 

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My advice to you is to not try to mount the display on your desk. I used a heavy duty monitor arm with an adapter plate at first because that's what I had and my 80cm deep table was just ok. I am much happier using a floor stand that puts it 1m away. The stock LG stand is a huge pile of crap that prevents putting it close to a wall because it sticks so far out the back. Wall mount is the best option if you can do that. Notice that the mounting point on the LG OLEDs is not at the center but at the bottom portion of the display.
Just a minor comment here - i believe the mount is at the center of gravity which happens to be lower portion of the display due to power supply being in the base.
 

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Just a minor comment here - i believe the mount is at the center of gravity which happens to be lower portion of the display due to power supply being in the base.
Also where the rest of the electronics are as the bottom half of the screen is thicker. But it's still a good thing to know because most wall mount etc depict the mounting at the center of the screen which is not the case with these ones.
 

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You have to remember that gaming and image quality enthusiasts are still a niche. The average person still buys something that is on sale and cheap enough to justify it and they might use that device for 10+ years if it keeps working. Totally different approach from the gamers and movie buffs chasing ultimate image quality experience. So manufacturers make devices they think are going to sell in sufficient quantities and the niches are served by very expensive products. Building a smaller OLED panel might not have a good enough return for investment to LG, even the 48" models are a byproduct of making better use of the material used to make larger TVs.

Exactly, this seems to be something that many of us seem to forget. We are a VERY small segment of a market, so manufacturers are not going to put the money and time into R&D for the type of screens we want. There is probably more money to be made focusing on other segments of consumers.
The future of monitors I see being; professional graphic designers and video editors are buying the handful or Pro monitors manufacturers still make, and PC gamers are buying TVs, as TVs is the area of screens that are making the advancement in technology that gamers care about.
We've been barking up the 'please make a 4k oled 144hz 32" VRR screen' for ten years now, it's not going to happen. Whatever is the best gaming TV, is going to be the best gaming monitor for the next foreseeable future.
 

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Exactly, this seems to be something that many of us seem to forget. We are a VERY small segment of a market, so manufacturers are not going to put the money and time into R&D for the type of screens we want. There is probably more money to be made focusing on other segments of consumers.
The future of monitors I see being; professional graphic designers and video editors are buying the handful or Pro monitors manufacturers still make, and PC gamers are buying TVs, as TVs is the area of screens that are making the advancement in technology that gamers care about.
We've been barking up the 'please make a 4k oled 144hz 32" VRR screen' for ten years now, it's not going to happen. Whatever is the best gaming TV, is going to be the best gaming monitor for the next foreseeable future.
This. Gaming monitors are a joke compared to the image quality of a high end living room television. Not to mention that gaming monitors are often priced higher than the better quality television.
 

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Okay - but you have to also admit that Console Kids who play on TVs are now considered 'Gamers' -- those 'thumb warriors' inherited all the work that M&K users put into shifting the industry toward better games and equipment... and we've been rewarded with the term 'niche'.
 

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Okay - but you have to also admit that Console Kids who play on TVs are now considered 'Gamers' -- those 'thumb warriors' inherited all the work that M&K users put into shifting the industry toward better games and equipment... and we've been rewarded with the term 'niche'.
Console gamers play almost all of the same major releases. They also, by default of already having great 4K televisions, have better displays than most PC gamers.
 
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