Baasha
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Hmm.. this monitor has PBP mode. Might have to try it out. hmmmmm.
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Its so absurd how the Neo G9 is priced in different countries!G9 Neo is 2200 euros here in Finland. That's a lot of money for FALD and some other upgrades. For reference the regular G9 is 1300.
That's absolutely insane that a $2500 monitor has a critical flaw like that. I really hope it gets addressed soon. Good luck to the early adopters.Btw Tim from Hardware unboxed has replied directly to this HDR + dimming issue on a reddit thread here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidem...indings_after_a_full_weekend_with_the_neo_g9/
Check the gold post.
He said he has contacted Samsung about this issue, here I am hoping Samsung actually can and do something about it.
I would not be surprised if it's just a driver issue. Nvidia drivers have had several fixes for issues specifically related to the original G9, things like 240 Hz not working etc.Btw Tim from Hardware unboxed has replied directly to this HDR + dimming issue on a reddit thread here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidem...indings_after_a_full_weekend_with_the_neo_g9/
Check the gold post.
He said he has contacted Samsung about this issue, here I am hoping Samsung actually can and do something about it.
Yeah but how can such a massive flaw like this even be released.I would not be surprised if it's just a driver issue. Nvidia drivers have had several fixes for issues specifically related to the original G9, things like 240 Hz not working etc.
It's possible that Nvidia just recently broke it and it worked fine before that. I mean they broke my Club3D DP to HDMI 2.1 adapter functionality for about 3 months not all that long ago.Yeah but how can such a massive flaw like this even be released.
I mean you can't use HDR togrther with FALD correctly yet, that is like one of the biggest reasons to get this monitor yeah? Like wtf samsung, are u srs?
But one of the owners on reddit demonstrated the same issue with their PS5.I would not be surprised if it's just a driver issue. Nvidia drivers have had several fixes for issues specifically related to the original G9, things like 240 Hz not working etc.
Then that would point to an issue with the Samsung firmware which is a bit inexplicable. Hopefully they fix it soon.But one of the owners on reddit demonstrated the same issue with their PS5.
Slightly off-topic but I wouldn't put too much stock in DisplayNinja reviews. If you look at their content, you'll notice the reviews lack any charts of the purported measurements mentioned or any mention of testing equipment/methodology. I've looked at multiple reviews and never see original photos by the reviewer as well. All the photos are just from press releases/marketing materials.Also, displayninja review is out. They also acknowledge the HDR issue.
Yea I kind of just realised that now, it was a pretty generic review.Slightly off-topic but I wouldn't put too much stock in DisplayNinja reviews. If you look at their content, you'll notice the reviews lack any charts of the purported measurements mentioned or any mention of testing equipment/methodology. I've looked at multiple reviews and never see original photos by the reviewer as well. All the photos are just from press releases/marketing materials.
DisplayNinja afaik straight up rips off content from other sites. They should be avoided.Slightly off-topic but I wouldn't put too much stock in DisplayNinja reviews. If you look at their content, you'll notice the reviews lack any charts of the purported measurements mentioned or any mention of testing equipment/methodology. I've looked at multiple reviews and never see original photos by the reviewer as well. All the photos are just from press releases/marketing materials.
I can't remember the guy's name (edit: found his website), but I recall someone doing that a few years back. They designed a custom PCB to be used with certain panels to have a quality low-lag high refresh rate monitor beyond what was available from consumer monitors at the time. I recall he even got as far as selling kits. Not sure what ever happened to that, but obviously it wasn't all that successful.Jesus christ the monitor market is such garbage.
We need to Macgyver our own HardForum monitor.
Zisworks controller allowed fairly mundane TV panels to deliver 4K 120 Hz refresh rates etc. years before such a thing was in a regular manufacturer's monitor. That's super cool. I would be all for this sort of stuff because most monitors leave you wanting on some area whether it's OSD options or behavior or bugs etc. Unfortunately there isn't a business for it because there's maybe 0.5% of owners of a compatible display who would be willing to open it up, tear it down and install a new controller in there.I can't remember the guy's name (edit: found his website), but I recall someone doing that a few years back. They designed a custom PCB to be used with certain panels to have a quality low-lag high refresh rate monitor beyond what was available from consumer monitors at the time. I recall he even got as far as selling kits. Not sure what ever happened to that, but obviously it wasn't all that successful.
The problem is the panels are very expensive to develop and manufacture and nobody is macgyvering a panel so you're always going to be limited by the shortcomings of the panels you can buy from the suppliers.
Zisworks controller allowed fairly mundane TV panels to deliver 4K 120 Hz refresh rates etc. years before such a thing was in a regular manufacturer's monitor. That's super cool. I would be all for this sort of stuff because most monitors leave you wanting on some area whether it's OSD options or behavior or bugs etc. Unfortunately there isn't a business for it because there's maybe 0.5% of owners of a compatible display who would be willing to open it up, tear it down and install a new controller in there.
The monitor market is indeed shit where you often have to wait for the next gen model to fix the issues of the previous gen because using the same software and just iterating on it seems to be somehow a foreign idea for monitor manufacturers. TVs are a little bit better but generally also shit as they want to sell next year's model so some features don't get added to previous models because they don't want to maintain anything but the latest iteration.
Samsung had a great idea with their One Connect box that you could just buy an upgrade for the brain of the TV and replace the One Connect box to install it. They scratched that idea pretty quickly, most likely due to lack of popularity and not being a driver of TV sales. It's another great, well engineered idea down the drain. I love the external box on my KS8000 because I don't have to try to figure out how to hook things up to the back of a TV since the box is right there for easy access. My LG C9 and CX are way worse in this regard with HDMI cables poking out the sides and back.
I'm sure their beancounters determined that they could NOT make a lot more money from them and that's why it was discontinued. I agree it could have been a perk for Samsung if you could just upgrade your old TVs to support HDMI 2.1 for example.My 3yr old Q9FN TV has a box with an optical lead to the display.
There never was a replacement upgrade for this despite it being possible.
ie the screen does 1440p120Hz so it is a 120Hz panel. It should be capable of 4K120.
They could have made a lot more money and company goodwill.
For me (having both), different uses. I can't stand a TV-sized screen for a normal use computer - they're great for gaming and movies, but tend to be less useful for actual productivity work. The G9 series is spectacular at productivity work, and is good to very good at gaming (with some caveats - if a game doesn't know what to do with the resolution/FOV, things can get weird).Really curious about opinions between this monitor and LG's OLED offerings (C9/CX/C1 mainly)
I would skip everything for now. Samsung has QD-OLED monitors in development at around 32-35 inches that is likely coming late this year or 2022. Just in time to compare against LG 42 inch WOLEDReally curious about opinions between this monitor and LG's OLED offerings (C9/CX/C1 mainly)
What? The only QD-OLED panels they have going into production late 2021 are 55/65"+ in size set to be released next year. 0 chance they put out a monitor.I would skip everything for now. Samsung has QD-OLED monitors in development at around 32-35 inches that is likely coming late this year or 2022. Just in time to compare against LG 42 inch WOLED
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1606389864What? The only QD-OLED panels they have going into production late 2021 are 55/65"+ in size set to be released next year. 0 chance they put out a monitor.
Their QD-OLED's are also rumored to be far less bright than a WOLED since the white sub pixel was primarily responsible for boosting brightness.
Max brightness sucks on OLED, but point brightness and absolute contrast destroys any LCD tech. Max brightness is important, but for HDR, point brightness is king.Problem with any OLED, even Samsungs, will be max HDR brightness will be left wanting.
I also have the CX48.Really curious about opinions between this monitor and LG's OLED offerings (C9/CX/C1 mainly.
They will be 60hz "professional" displays. Very very low chance it will be suitable for gaming.33-35" QD-OLED monitors? Sign me up, because until MiniLED displays can get the blooming under control with >10,000 dimming zones, their extra high brightness means nothing to me.
They will be 60hz "professional" displays. Very very low chance it will be suitable for gaming.
I want to be optimistic but besides the fact that I don't think such a display will exist until 2023, the possibility of them catering to what is likely their smallest market (gamers) right out of the gate with a new panel technology is basically 0%.Bah what is with professional displays and 60Hz? Even the Asus PA32UCG is a 120Hz FALD display with VRR despite the "ProArt" naming....come on Samsung.