New Mac Ad

bonsai said:
O rly?
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Oh jeez not this pic again. If I was there I would be the only one with this.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...ay+FX&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1211587727985
 
Wow so people are posting pictures of a Mac convention at some college to prove that people use Macs?

PC anyone?

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Joe Average said:
Since when did the relatively small percentage of the population commonly known as "college students" suddenly become "the average consumer"? News to me... 'cause... they truly are a very small percentage of the overall consumer base that I'm aware of and deal with on a regular basis.

Now, if you'd say "the average Cult member..." I'd have agreed. ;)
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LOL.

I should have asked the question: I thought college students were poor? If they got a Mac for school, most likely mommy and daddy bought it for them or they had take out a loan to get one. In fact, I have a friend who had to buy his daughter a Mac for college because she's attending some art school that requries it. That's fucking lame, and he agrees.
 
One of the reasons why people buy a Mac now is the fact that a Mac can now run Windows.
 
For those spitting out the figures and percentages about market share with Apple, if you take a close look at the timeline, you'd note a marked increase that correlates almost spot-on with the rise in market share along with Boot Camp. While Parallels has been providing support for Intel-based Macs running at least OSX 10.4.1 for what, 3 years now (VMWare came along much later to that party), it wasn't until Apple itself came out with Boot Camp that suddenly sparked a massive increase in market share.

Sorry, had to stop myself from laughing at the "massive increase" I just mentioned as it was less than .5% at the time but, I guess that's a lot for 'em considering how low it remains to this day. 9%? I don't believe it for one second. I could go to 100 homes picked at random here in Vegas - EVEN IN THE AFFLUENT AREAS where the so-called upper crust folk live like Summerlin - and I seriously doubt I'd find even 1 Mac in the places I visit.

9% market share my ass... they must be doing these polls standing outside of Apple Stores or something. That's still the only place I see Macs in business environments actually being used aside from photo bureaus that I build high end serious performance machines for. They have a few iMacs tossed here and there, and one of 'em even sprang for a Mac Pro when they came out. But after seeing the performance compared to the hardware I put together (RAMdisks ftw!!!) they ended up selling it at cost 2 months later.

9%... sounds like classic statistics at work to me... damn them... DAMN THEM ALL!!!
 
Apple only survived this long partly because Steve Jobs came back. I'll give him some credit for getting the company back on its feet and for the great success that they have with the iPod--even though they stole Creative's GUI. But everything else is a wash because Windows PCs own the market.

I find it funny that if you are using a Mac for college, what's the likelihood you'll be using a Mac at your first job?
 
I'm one of the few in the line of business I'm getting into that still uses a PC. I'm starting to get into web design with Flash and Dreamweaver, and the company I'm working for has been working with a web design company in Canada for YEARS and they all switched over to Macs about a year ago, they enjoy them.

I also have a friend who does graphics for video games, so he's into Photoshop but a lot of Maya and 3dmax, he switched to a Mac and says it's great.

I have a friend down here in Mexico who used to be fully into PC's, but now owns a Macbook and makes fun of my PC. I don't mind, I make fun of him for being a traitor :D

The thing with all of them is that they start to defend the Mac like it's a religion. I'm glad they enjoy their computers, but I still use a PC and enjoy it just as much, I don't need them telling me I have hardware incompatabilities and blue screens and such. Vista is far from perfect, but it does everything I want, and does it at good speed, and I think I have a pretty sweet laptop for less than $1500 that even *gasp* plays video games, since it is both my work and play machine. I'm happy with my purchase.

Personally I have nothing against Mac users, they can use whatever program and computer they want. It seems like it's Mac that has the problem and the die-hard fans that spew out whatever they say.
 
I'm beginning to think there's some subliminal stuff going on in Core Image and Quartz Effects because people just change so dramatically when they actually get Apple computers. I can't figure it out myself, but... honestly, they simply aren't all that and a bag of chips too.

I could spend a few hours with a Linux distro (Arch being my current fave) and when I was done with it a diehard Mac user could sit down at it and think he's running OSX lock, stock, and barrel... and he wouldn't be, of course.

Then again, I can - and regularly do - install OSX (in it's rather popular PC-based format, OSx86) on my own workstation just for shits and giggles when some friends drop by and wonder "Ok, what are you smoking..." because they know I'm a diehard Windows user, always will be. Even the ability to run Windows inside OSX with Parallels or VMWare or even VirtualBox nowadays isn't enough of a draw to make me run that OS because it's simply unusable for any given length of time - for me I need to add as the disclaimer.

The Wife loves it, and will soon have it on her PC once again. She's running Vista presently, and says she likes it, but that subliminal stuff is pulling her back to the "dark side" and OSX... so I'll be redoing her machine and when I'm done it'll be yet another 100% compatible Hackintosh... probably the last one I'll do for a while, with over 225 of 'em under my belt, I need a vacation. :)
 
Joe Average said:
For those spitting out the figures and percentages about market share with Apple, if you take a close look at the timeline, you'd note a marked increase that correlates almost spot-on with the rise in market share along with Boot Camp. While Parallels has been providing support for Intel-based Macs running at least OSX 10.4.1 for what, 3 years now (VMWare came along much later to that party), it wasn't until Apple itself came out with Boot Camp that suddenly sparked a massive increase in market share.

Sorry, had to stop myself from laughing at the "massive increase" I just mentioned as it was less than .5% at the time but, I guess that's a lot for 'em considering how low it remains to this day. 9%? I don't believe it for one second. I could go to 100 homes picked at random here in Vegas - EVEN IN THE AFFLUENT AREAS where the so-called upper crust folk live like Summerlin - and I seriously doubt I'd find even 1 Mac in the places I visit.

9% market share my ass... they must be doing these polls standing outside of Apple Stores or something. That's still the only place I see Macs in business environments actually being used aside from photo bureaus that I build high end serious performance machines for. They have a few iMacs tossed here and there, and one of 'em even sprang for a Mac Pro when they came out. But after seeing the performance compared to the hardware I put together (RAMdisks ftw!!!) they ended up selling it at cost 2 months later.

9%... sounds like classic statistics at work to me... damn them... DAMN THEM ALL!!!
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I just did an analytics report on one of the sites I run and these are the results for 14,737 visits:
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1	Windows 	12,656	85.88%
2	Macintosh 	1,699	11.53%
3	Linux 	348	2.36%
4	(not set) 	13	0.09%
5	iPhone 	9	0.06%
6	Danger Hiptop 	4	0.03%
7	FreeBSD 	2	0.01%
8	Playstation 3 	2	0.01%
9	iPod 	2	0.01%
10	Playstation Portable 	1	0.01%
 
Interesting, but... I ain't believing it for a second. ;) Browser IDs offering up OS info just ain't reliable info to me, never has been considering how easy it is to mask the info or alter it outright. Sure, that means nothing to others but that's a given. My own website traffic for the past 6 months shows 91% Windows visitors, 4% Linux, and 3% Macs... guess I'm not so popular with "The Cult of Mac."

Wonder why... ;)
 
Joe Average said:
Interesting, but... I ain't believing it for a second. ;) Browser IDs offering up OS info just ain't reliable info to me, never has been considering how easy it is to mask the info or alter it outright. Sure, that means nothing to others but that's a given. My own website traffic for the past 6 months shows 91% Windows visitors, 4% Linux, and 3% Macs... guess I'm not so popular with "The Cult of Mac."

Wonder why... ;)
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Right, but usually when users fake their OS they pretend to be a Windows + IE, so Windows actually gets fake stats.
The stats that I presented are from a site which is not related to computers.
 
Okay kiddies go to your corners and count to 100. Geez, buy what computer you want. Like I said earlier, I use both, see advantages and disadvantages to both, and that is that.

I love my Quad desktop, and my Macbook Pro is a thing of beauty. Can't we all just try to get along....???
 
valhallaprime said:
Wow, you still don't get it. Man, I can't get any simpler of an analogy going here. This isn't about a "culture", this is about using the right tool for a job that pays very well. Again, hobbyist vs. professional. When someone says: "I need post-production edit work in Final Cut Pro, and I'll pay $200 an hour" you use the RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB.
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This is pretty much it. I may spend X number of dollars for a Final Cut Studio machine (which honestly isn't that much these days), but when the reel that I edit with it lands me a new account where I make $300-$400 per hour with a 10-12 hour guarantee and double time after 12 hours, on a job that's usually two to three days between prep and shoot, yeah, I'd say the cost is pretty well worth it...
 
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