Network pics thread

One of the cables at the bottom wouldn't connect at 1Gb, guess who gets to re-do all of that? I wish they would test these things first...



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shiznit said:
Don't get me started. This Nexus is total overkill for the application but "we can't afford 10Gb."
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Eh who cares. The current gen cards are a waste of $$$ right now unless you really need it.

You should have bought the nexus 7009 though .. it ships with the SIGNIFICANTLY better fab2 modules (550gig/slot as opposed to the shitty 80):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/col...et_c78-684211_ps9402_Products_Data_Sheet.html

Next gen line cards will be so much better than the current crop. Can't wait to get $0.01 back for my fab1 and M 10gig modules :(
 
The FAB1s can do 230g/slot, not 80. It's the M1 cards that are limited to 80g. The F1 cards can do the full 230g, but they're L2 only (and can't do FEX, etc) so no one should ever really use them unless they're running FabricPath. The v2 cards should be badass. The FAB2s are cool, but the M2/F2 cards aren't going to be out for awhile.
 
Yay! New ProCurve stuffs!

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Vito_Corleone said:
The FAB1s can do 230g/slot, not 80. It's the M1 cards that are limited to 80g. The F1 cards can do the full 230g, but they're L2 only (and can't do FEX, etc) so no one should ever really use them unless they're running FabricPath. The v2 cards should be badass. The FAB2s are cool, but the M2/F2 cards aren't going to be out for awhile.
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Ah brain fart .. you are indeed correct sir.

The thing that pisses me off is that you can't mix M1/F1 cards in the same chassis with M2/F2 cards. So you basically have to throw it all out overnight ... at least this is what I was told a while back. You hear anything different?
 
Jay_oasis said:
why so many?
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Replacing 4 x Adtran's and 1 x web managed HP. These are all GbE + PoE, except the bottom one, it's just GbE. :)

For work, also if these work out well, I'll be getting like 15 more for our other 3 locations :D
 
just2cool said:
Ah brain fart .. you are indeed correct sir.

The thing that pisses me off is that you can't mix M1/F1 cards in the same chassis with M2/F2 cards. So you basically have to throw it all out overnight ... at least this is what I was told a while back. You hear anything different?
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Shit, I haven't heard that! I hope to hell it isn't true, that'd be a really bad move for Cisco. Not to mention how much it would suck for people like us.
 
Generally, yes. My industry is pretty fucked up though :)

But a specific example of this .. I have 5 M1 line cards on two 7010 chassis that are fully loaded. I'm trying to decom my last pair of nasty 6513s "central patch" design and complete our 4948E TOR switch design.

Problem is, I need more 10gig ports on my nexus 7Ks. Should I buy more of these 8x10gig M1s or just wait until the 2nd gen when 32x10gig/48x10gig cards come out? The problem complicates even further if M1 is not compatible with M2/F2 ... it just doesn't make me want to buy them even though I really need ports.
 
I wouldn't wait for the new cards, honestly. That'd be like waiting for the Sup2T when Cisco started talking about it in 09, lol. You never know what Cisco's going to do.

What's the deal with 4948s ToR? Why not FEXes? Lots of east-west traffic and you need the local switching, or...?
 
agrikk said:
:D :D
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Right on!

mikeblas said:
How can you stand working at such a company?
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Let's not get carried away, no company is perfect and I was referring to this particular situation not how things are done in general.

just2cool said:
Eh who cares. The current gen cards are a waste of $$$ right now unless you really need it.

You should have bought the nexus 7009 though .. it ships with the SIGNIFICANTLY better fab2 modules (550gig/slot as opposed to the shitty 80):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/col...et_c78-684211_ps9402_Products_Data_Sheet.html

Next gen line cards will be so much better than the current crop. Can't wait to get $0.01 back for my fab1 and M 10gig modules :(
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We didn't need the 7k at all and could have bought 10Gb switches and nics for all the hosts for less was my point.
 
shiznit said:
Let's not get carried away, no company is perfect and I was referring to this particular situation not how things are done in general.
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Not being trusted to make the right decisions seems like a far cry from "perfection".
 
mikeblas said:
Not being trusted to make the right decisions seems like a far cry from "perfection".
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I agree, but the decision to purchase the equipment for this project was made a couple levels above me and I was not involved at all. It's not like I was overruled or told what to buy.
 
shiznit said:
New toys

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Hope your not planning on doing any kind of thin provisionning with those..otherwise you'll want to kill yourself very quickly.

I'm currently kicking my EMC out of the door because of poor performance.

Compellent is the new king :cool:
 
EMC's have all kinda of hidden issues, we had controllers die constantly, and all the raids were doing was acting as share drives
 
lol @ the EMC hardware. Are they really marketing this to geeks who like network porn? With the backlit front panel? Really now?
 
QHalo said:
Grunts don't make decisions, managers/executives do.
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Again, why would anyone work at such a place? The people who have the most knowledge about the requirements aren't allowed to make the correct decision, you're nothing near "perfection" -- not even near "adequate" or "sustainable". Sure, lots of companies work this way; must most companies fail, and the rest operate at an inefficiency that serves neither customer nor employee.

If lower-level employees don't have the courage to talk to people a level or two above themselves, management will never get the information they need to make better decisions if the framework remains at its status quo. Does information really never travel up the hierarchy at such companies?
 
Vito_Corleone said:
I wouldn't wait for the new cards, honestly. That'd be like waiting for the Sup2T when Cisco started talking about it in 09, lol. You never know what Cisco's going to do.

What's the deal with 4948s ToR? Why not FEXes? Lots of east-west traffic and you need the local switching, or...?
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Not too interesting of a reason lol. We used to have 4948-10G and 6524s at the majority of our colos ... but deployed 4900Ms and nexus3Ks in favor of that now.

So we had a bunch laying around already ... figured we might as well make it consistent. These boxes just use straight up vPC port channels ... no L3 or anything fancy that a FEX couldn't do.
 
hawk82 said:
lol @ the EMC hardware. Are they really marketing this to geeks who like network porn? With the backlit front panel? Really now?
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Cheaply done backlit shit. We had a vendor install their gear and have some EMC stuff. The front panels were flimsy pieces of shit we made them get rid of because they kept falling off and got in the way of the racks
 
just2cool said:
Not too interesting of a reason lol. We used to have 4948-10G and 6524s at the majority of our colos ... but deployed 4900Ms and nexus3Ks in favor of that now.

So we had a bunch laying around already ... figured we might as well make it consistent. These boxes just use straight up vPC port channels ... no L3 or anything fancy that a FEX couldn't do.
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Ah, ok. Sell those shits and get FEXes, lol.
 
Vito_Corleone said:
Where the hell do YOU work? Nearly every company I've worked for is like this.
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I work at a company that trusts and empowers employees. Money isn't limitless, but if I have a business need for equipment, I explain the need, get the budget, get the hardware, and start writing software for it. We're hiring.
 
mikeblas said:
I work at a company that trusts and empowers employees. Money isn't limitless, but if I have a business need for equipment, I explain the need, get the budget, get the hardware, and start writing software for it. We're hiring.
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Suddenly relevant to my interests. :eek:
 
mikeblas said:
Again, why would anyone work at such a place? The people who have the most knowledge about the requirements aren't allowed to make the correct decision, you're nothing near "perfection" -- not even near "adequate" or "sustainable". Sure, lots of companies work this way; must most companies fail, and the rest operate at an inefficiency that serves neither customer nor employee.

If lower-level employees don't have the courage to talk to people a level or two above themselves, management will never get the information they need to make better decisions if the framework remains at its status quo. Does information really never travel up the hierarchy at such companies?
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I had a long response here but it's not needed. Let's just say we are in complete agreement. I would love to work at a place that did things right, but they are very rare in my limited experience, especially where I live.

mikeblas said:
I work at a company that trusts and empowers employees. Money isn't limitless, but if I have a business need for equipment, I explain the need, get the budget, get the hardware, and start writing software for it. We're hiring.
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I'm interested as well.
 
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mikeblas said:
Again, why would anyone work at such a place? The people who have the most knowledge about the requirements aren't allowed to make the correct decision, you're nothing near "perfection" -- not even near "adequate" or "sustainable". Sure, lots of companies work this way; must most companies fail, and the rest operate at an inefficiency that serves neither customer nor employee.

If lower-level employees don't have the courage to talk to people a level or two above themselves, management will never get the information they need to make better decisions if the framework remains at its status quo. Does information really never travel up the hierarchy at such companies?
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Vito_Corleone said:
Where the hell do YOU work? Nearly every company I've worked for is like this.
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My thought, luckily where i work, solo Sys Admin for this sister company, if we need it, i get it.
 
shiznit said:
Unfortunately in many companies the C's in the ivory tower make most of the decisions and they lack the perspective of the people on the ground.
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This is why such companies have so much friction; the people making the decisions don't have enough information to make them correctly. Sometimes, this is because people are control freaks, sometimes it's because they want to build fiefdoms instead of products, sometimes it's because they don't know if their customers are people who use products, the people who buy stock, or the people who write their performance reviews.

shiznit said:
I'm interested as well.
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Send me a PM.
 
Updates at work:

Picked up a PE860, X3440, 8gb, Perc6i, 146gb SAS, and rails for $150
I now have a baller VPN server for our roadwarriors and two site to site links


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The VM project is moving along, slowly...


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I found the following at my local ewaste recyclers:


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Cisco 4006, with management, 2x 48 port, and 1x 12p gigabit
Would you buy this or a Foundry Big Iron 4000 with 1x 6 fiber and 1x 24 10/100?
(Just to play with of course)

Oh and I found this, under it are two Extreme Networks MASSIVE routers.


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I will get more pics tomorrow. I bought a load of Cisco gear from them.
6x 2600
3x 2950
1x Pix 515e
1x 3640
1x 3620
1x 1720
 
Nice score on that server. Jeez, I wouldn't mind picking one of those up for that price :D
 
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