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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Got the notification for M1 V4 pre-orders today.

I had just purchased the V3 in May, but I can't give these guys my money fast enough lol :) Preordered the V4 steel bracket/magnetic filter, and threw in a black no-ODD top panel (it's back!)

Nature of the beast, but the shipping+handling came out to almost half of the total price for these parts... not complaining, just laughing.

Can't wait to get my new bracket and slot-less ODD top.

Seriously considered getting the silver panel kit to make a bigger order, but not this time. I might convince myself the silver panels warrant another full purchase, no sense just having the panels!
 
So been playing around with fan settings, and reading temps etc, trying to find a balance between idle, and when playing games, with the fans speeding up. I use Asus Suite wich seems to be working okay. Atleast on my cpu cooler. That spins at around 400 rpm, when just browsing etc, and its totaly silent. Set my WD black to spin down after 5 mins of use, so thats silent aswell, and set msi card to spin at around 25%, wich is silent aswell, when idle.

But my noctua 92mm pwm fan for the rear of the case, i cant seem to control fully. Its either 1400rmp or nothing. And at the 1400rpm its a bit to noisy. Would like it to be spining some, but still silent, just to help transport hot air away from the cpu, and the spin up a bit more when gaming, since i use headphones, when gaming anyway

Can anyone help me with that ? Since i cant see to control it well enough in Asus Suite
 
What motherboard are you using? I remember some asus motherboards not having full pwm control on some of the fan headers, only on the cpu header
 
wahaha360 said:
I can *create a Panel Kit Without ODD Slot by using NO ODD Top Panel and regular Panel Kit.

If you are live in the United States, email me, I *may be able to accommodate this request in the near future. If you live outside of the United States, it will have to wait until later.

If you order the new Fan Bracket and SFX Bracket, they will ship in separate boxes but at the same time.
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Question. Having the V1 model, if I buy the no odd top panel and the new front panel from your shop they'll both be compatible with my side panels, right? That would be kinda like buying a new set, correct?
I think this option is cheaper, but also much much faster for me to have my new panels.
 
Anagog said:
Have the steel fan brackets sold out already?
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Yes. We may get more.

grazina said:
Question. Having the V1 model, if I buy the no odd top panel and the new front panel from your shop they'll both be compatible with my side panels, right? That would be kinda like buying a new set, correct?
I think this option is cheaper, but also much much faster for me to have my new panels.
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Yes.
 
To date, has anyone bothered with trying a Noctua NH-U9S or NH-D9L in the case? I know several people have used the older U9B but I'm interested specifically in these two. Noctua rates these coolers identically in terms of thermal performance, and SPCR's review seems to corroborate this, with the D9L actually pulling ahead in some metrics (vrm cooling, dual fan setup, etc). Thing is, on top of that, the D9L (110m height) is 15mm shorter in height than the U9S (125mm), opening up the possibility of installing an intake fan on the bracket above it.

If no one has tackled this, I will likely acquire a D9L and secondary 92mm fan along with low profile ram to test out in the future and see how it fares compared to my C12P.
 
Does anybody have any data on the temp difference between a nvidia style reference cooler and for instance a msi twin frozr 4 cooler?

I read that the blower cooler is recommended, but I reeeeally don't care for the added noise...
I have a ref 980ti now but would like a aftermarket cooler thats quieter.
 
Phuncz said:
Damn I wasn't aware that they were already being sold with the poll just a few days ago. Oh well.
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I should've had the poll up sooner, honestly. We thought we could add to the production order after we'd made it, but it was done more quickly than we expected and ordering more would entail a new MOQ. End result is we only had 30 fan brackets available, and about 90 people interested according to the poll results. Similar situation with the SFX bracket, but we have more of those (currently 53 left).
 
I was one of the lucky few to grab the first run on the SFX bracket, so that's karma balancing the equation :)
 
AMD Fury X video cards officially announced. I wonder if it can fit the M1?

AMD Fury X (water cooled) for $650
AMD Fury (air cooled) for $550
I think the performance gain + water cooling is easily worth the $100 price difference since overclocking will be easier.

Here's pics with different angles for Fury X.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/images-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-leak-online/93482.html

I think it will be a definite no with my current set up since my ATX psu will block the air, even if it fits :(
http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ISamuraiXI/media/ncaseM1v2.jpg.html?o=15
 
skjetne said:
Does anybody have any data on the temp difference between a nvidia style reference cooler and for instance a msi twin frozr 4 cooler?

I read that the blower cooler is recommended, but I reeeeally don't care for the added noise...
I have a ref 980ti now but would like a aftermarket cooler thats quieter.
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I got no experince with the blower style cooler, but i do have the MSI 970 4g gaming. And the temps are pretty good id say, and its nice and silent ( i havent overclocked though )
 
noobzilla said:
AMD Fury X video cards officially announced. I wonder if it can fit the M1?

AMD Fury X (water cooled) for $650
AMD Fury (air cooled) for $550
I think the performance gain + water cooling is easily worth the $100 price difference since overclocking will be easier.

Here's pics with different angles for Fury X.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/images-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-leak-online/93482.html

I think it will be a definite no with my current set up since my ATX psu will block the air, even if it fits :(
http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ISamuraiXI/media/ncaseM1v2.jpg.html?o=15
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I would think it'd fit. The pictures seems to suggest the reservoir is the depth of the fan + rad, but overall (I'm guessing, but still) it seems to be close to the same depth you'd experience with a traditional rad + fan combo.

EDIT: I of course mean fit with an SFX PSU in the standard orientation. Unless you feel like putting it over your CPU with an ATX PSU.
 
I just wonder what the PSU requirement of the dual Fury card will be. People are driving 295x2's with ~800watt psus. Maybe it will be possible to run the dual Fury card with that 700watt SFX-L.

There are bare card shots of it floating around. The dual Fury card is much shorter than the 295x2 and looks to be shorter than a 10.5" graphics card. It appears to be 9-9.5". Hopefully the retail board retains that length.
 
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Ordered, to go along with my Version 1 ! Thanks Necere and wahaha360 for all of your hard work.
 
Got my hands on a FLIR camera, took a few shots of my build. :)
The temperature in the top left is for the center of the image.
3570K - U9B-SE2, Reference 980, Crucial Ballistix sport/ Tactical Tracer, P8Z77I-Deluxe, SX500-LG, 840/850 EVO's behind the front panel, Ncase V2.

:)
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Let me know if anyone wants specific shots, I still have access to the FLIR camera, at least for the rest of the day.
 
Very nice! Thermal imagers are loads of fun :)

As a note for anyone looking at the thermograms, the heatsink isn't actually that much cooler than the other components, it's just that shiny metals (like the polished aluminum fins) reflect thermal energy so you're seeing the temperature of the room there.
 
Necere said:
Yes. We may get more.

Yes.
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Thanks Necere and wahaha360 once more. I missed that first availabilçity for the fan bracket but got it now. And even went for the psu mounting just in case corsair changes the sf600 connector orientation.

Just ordered the following items from you guys.
Order Details:
M1 Accessories Select: Steel Fan Bracket With Magnetic Filter - Preorder (1) - $12.00
M1 Accessories Select: SFX Power Supply Mounting Bracket - Preorder (1) - $10.00
M1 Accessories Select: Panel Front - Black (1) - $18.00
M1 Accessories Select: Panel Top Without ODD Slot - Black (1) - $18.00

Seeing as both panels are available to purchase can I expect they will be shipped in days to come? And will they be shipped together?

Thank you

P.s. - Wahaha360, if further down the road you make the silver panel kit available with just the no odd top panel included I'll still get it.
 
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Aibohphobia said:
Very nice! Thermal imagers are loads of fun :)

As a note for anyone looking at the thermograms, the heatsink isn't actually that much cooler than the other components, it's just that shiny metals (like the polished aluminum fins) reflect thermal energy so you're seeing the temperature of the room there.
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Forgot to mention the heat reflecting bit, and you can see how true it is by looking at the side view vs the top down, it shows up much warmer where there isn't a sheet of metal reflecting. :)
 
grazina said:
Seeing as both panels are available to purchase can I expect they will be shipped in days to come? And will they be shipped together?
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The panels you ordered should ship sooner, yes. Everything is shipped separately because w360 doesn't trust TWPS not to screw up combining them.
 
Necere said:
Fan brackets are available again.
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Thanks for the heads-up, I ordered one :)
Maybe give the announcement a bigger font an bright color soon if the preorders don't pickup fast enough ? How about mailing from ncases.com ? I think many people would happily receive mail when a new item is up for order or back in stock.

Necere said:
The panels you ordered should ship sooner, yes. Everything is shipped separately because w360 doesn't trust TWPS not to screw up combining them.
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It seems more than logical after The Great V3 Mixup of '14, damn you irresponsible post office worker !
 
Phuncz said:
It seems more than logical after The Great V3 Mixup of '14, damn you irresponsible post office worker !
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There might be another mixup.
Is there someone from Germany awaiting her/his case? You might get mine today. Its already loaded onto the delivery vehicle - yay!
 
I ordered the SFX bracket on the 13th and then ordered the steel fan bracket on the 15th. I don't mind the extra shipping costs but will they be shipped at the same time?
 
So I finally ordered all my parts to build in my V3 M1. I'm reusing my GTX 780 6gb ACX from my current build. I know non-reference aren't preferable for this case, I just didn't have enough saved up to buy the GTX 980 TI reference card. I was wondering if it was a good idea to have fans underneath the card to exhaust the heat? I was thinking of using two AP15's and a low rpm adapter to reduce noise. Will they fit underneath the ACX cooler?
 
For the right angled cable, it mentions, "Included with the M1 v1 only, and compatible with all versions of the M1. May be useful for certain powers supplies where the left-angle power cable will not fit."

Does this mean it's very long like the original V1 cable? Will this be a better fit for the Corsair SF600?
 
Glad to see you guys were able to acquire some more additional fan brackets. Got that along with the SFX bracket and some clips "just in case" for my V1. Haven't managed to break one of those so far.
 
SithSolo1 said:
I ordered the SFX bracket on the 13th and then ordered the steel fan bracket on the 15th. I don't mind the extra shipping costs but will they be shipped at the same time?
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Both are part of the current production run and won't be shipped until next month, so they should be shipped at the same time.

dgio21 said:
Will they fit underneath the ACX cooler?
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You can have fans under any card that doesn't exceed two slots thick. So yes.

Hanakuso said:
For the right angled cable, it mentions, "Included with the M1 v1 only, and compatible with all versions of the M1. May be useful for certain powers supplies where the left-angle power cable will not fit."

Does this mean it's very long like the original V1 cable? Will this be a better fit for the Corsair SF600?
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The cable is shortened compared to the actual v1 cable, and is the same length as the left-angle cable used since v2.

Right-angle is a little better for the SF600, since the left-angle will extend past the edge of the PSU. If the PSU is oriented so the fan draws from the right side of the case, the power cable will hang out over the motherboard. Oriented the other way, the cable passes through the opening at the top-front of the chassis, so it could be a problem if you have an optical drive installed. The fit with left-angle cable and the SF600 is pretty similar to how the right-angle fits with the ST45SF-G and SX600-G.
 
Just oreder the fan bracket with filter for my v3! very excited as my other filters would not fit. thanks for all the hard work! now just need to sell the h105, and get the hg10 with two h75s installed
 
Have a Dark Rock TF heading my way as a local review unit presented itself, but I sold off my rigs to wait for Skylake and only have my E3 Xeon/E3C226D2I at the moment. If I manage to find a cheap Z97 ITX board I'll do some fitment testing and take photos.
 
Vittra said:
Have a Dark Rock TF heading my way as a local review unit presented itself, but I sold off my rigs to wait for Skylake and only have my E3 Xeon/E3C226D2I at the moment. If I manage to find a cheap Z97 ITX board I'll do some fitment testing and take photos.
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Wow, amazing commitment! Definitely appreciated.
 
Necere said:
You can have fans under any card that doesn't exceed two slots thick. So yes.
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Would it be better to have the fans that are mounted at the bottom to be configured as intake or exhaust to help with controlling the temperatures of a non-reference GPU? I wanted to have all my fans as intakes so I could passively exhaust all the hot air through the open vents to prevent dust from settling in the case, just not sure what to do about mounting the fans as an intake or exhaust near the gpu.

Vittra said:
Have a Dark Rock TF heading my way as a local review unit presented itself, but I sold off my rigs to wait for Skylake and only have my E3 Xeon/E3C226D2I at the moment. If I manage to find a cheap Z97 ITX board I'll do some fitment testing and take photos.
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I took the plunge and purchased a Dark Rock TF for my new build with a Asus Z97I-Plus. If there any clearance issues I'll post back on here.
 
dgio21 said:
Would it be better to have the fans that are mounted at the bottom to be configured as intake or exhaust to help with controlling the temperatures of a non-reference GPU? I wanted to have all my fans as intakes so I could passively exhaust all the hot air through the open vents to prevent dust from settling in the case, just not sure what to do about mounting the fans as an intake or exhaust near the gpu.
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You don't want the bottom fans configured as exhaust or they'll be fighting the GPU fans. You could remove those, but then it'd be best to have a duct between the bottom fans and the GPU heatsink.
 
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