NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

It's the fan bracket that's changing for V4: It's mainly to allow us to include a magnetic filter with the case.

Just curious about the filter: how fine (or coarse) will the filter's mesh be? Same as the currently included 120 mm filters?
 
I know I for one wouldn't mind not having the V4 bracket be compatible with V3> in exchange for better compatibility with more powerful PSUs, though perhaps I'm alone in that.
Same here
Just curious about the filter: how fine (or coarse) will the filter's mesh be? Same as the currently included 120 mm filters?
From the link, it looks more restrictive.
 
I know I for one wouldn't mind not having the V4 bracket be compatible with V3> in exchange for better compatibility with more powerful PSUs, though perhaps I'm alone in that.

Assuming that isn't an option, it seems there's at least a couple ways around it. Would not attaching it to the frame on the front impact structural integrity all that much? If not then that screw hole isn't necessary to attach it to the older versions, but if so, wouldn't it be possible to make the same changes to the PSU bracket that you made to the side fan bracket (swapping aluminum for steel and making it thinner) to add that extra .7mm?

This!

And move the screw hole 5-10mm to the side, V1-3 owners would be able to drill a new hole themselves if needed/wanted. Given that the threads are in the bracket, which i assume they are.
 
I know I for one wouldn't mind not having the V4 bracket be compatible with V3> in exchange for better compatibility with more powerful PSUs, though perhaps I'm alone in that.

Assuming that isn't an option, it seems there's at least a couple ways around it. Would not attaching it to the frame on the front impact structural integrity all that much? If not then that screw hole isn't necessary to attach it to the older versions, but if so, wouldn't it be possible to make the same changes to the PSU bracket that you made to the side fan bracket (swapping aluminum for steel and making it thinner) to add that extra .7mm?
Let me just get this out of the way: V4 production is already underway and it's too late to make changes. Having said that, there's only about 3mm left between the AC connector and the top panel, which wouldn't make much difference. And there are people running SFX-L with long GPUs without issue already.

Just curious about the filter: how fine (or coarse) will the filter's mesh be? Same as the currently included 120 mm filters?
The plastic-frame filter are more of a wire mesh, whereas the new filter is a perforated sheet. The holes are 1mm in the new one, which is somewhat larger than the old filters.
 
Pumped!

Order Details:
M1 Version: Version 4, Color: Black, Optical Drive Slot: Yes - Preorder (1) - $185.00
(Estimated Shipping Date: 2015-07-15)
 
wooo. ordered a V4 (black, no ODD) to replace my V2 - its just too good not to keep the support going. hopefully ill be able to sell my V2 off to a mate and we can convert someone else to the good cause.

damn you USD/AUD exchange rate, you make my wallet sting!
 
I have a v3 and ordered an extra panel kit so I could change colors between black and silver if I wanted but now I'm really wanting to just have a second set of internals. Would it be possible to order the v4 internals only? Maybe you could add an option of "none" when selecting the panel color.
 
Whens the cut off date to be in that 2015-06-15 batch to be shipped?
I've asked w360 for a concrete cut off, and to put it on the order page. It is kind of important, since if people miss the cut off, the next batch won't ship until late September or October.

wooo. ordered a V4 (black, no ODD) to replace my V2 - its just too good not to keep the support going. hopefully ill be able to sell my V2 off to a mate and we can convert someone else to the good cause.

damn you USD/AUD exchange rate, you make my wallet sting!
Damn, that's commitment! Thank you - we certainly appreciate it.

I have a v3 and ordered an extra panel kit so I could change colors between black and silver if I wanted but now I'm really wanting to just have a second set of internals. Would it be possible to order the v4 internals only? Maybe you could add an option of "none" when selecting the panel color.
Unfortunately it's not really practical to offer just the chassis.
 
I have a v3 and ordered an extra panel kit so I could change colors between black and silver if I wanted but now I'm really wanting to just have a second set of internals. Would it be possible to order the v4 internals only? Maybe you could add an option of "none" when selecting the panel color.

I think you should have just bought a new M1 to get both the internals and the extra set of panels.

I've brought it up with w360 and he says it's something we can do. Don't expect it for a bit though, since the panel kits will be shipped to the US with the M1 V4s.

So just to make sure, you'll not have that option available to purchase anytime soon?
I noticed on the website that the black panel set is still out of stock. Will you open orders for that yet or only after the v4 run?

Last question. if ordering the new fan bracket and the psu mount together will they be shipped together?
I'm just wondering if i should wait for the panel with no odd option becomes available to reduce shipping costs on my side.
 
@grazina
I've forwarded your questions to w360, since he can better answer them. He should be around sooner or later with a reply.
 
Quick question: With a standard 2-slot height GPU set up in the bottom two pci slots (using a riser cable), is it possible to put slim 120mm fans (think prolimatech ultrasleeks or scythe slipstream slims) below the gpu? I understand that if it is possible, it'd be extremely tight.
 
Im thinking that that would not be possible conventionally, however if your replacing the GPU fans with the slim 120s, then that might be a possibility. Not sure if thats necessarily beneficial though, due to the airflow design not necessarily being as intentional as the inbuilt fans.
 
Necere, you might consider updating the NCase website to mention SFX-L power supplies.
 
Quick question: With a standard 2-slot height GPU set up in the bottom two pci slots (using a riser cable), is it possible to put slim 120mm fans (think prolimatech ultrasleeks or scythe slipstream slims) below the gpu? I understand that if it is possible, it'd be extremely tight.

It would be possible, even which standard size fans. Example: http://imgur.com/10s4LKs (picture is not mine)
 
Quick question: With a standard 2-slot height GPU set up in the bottom two pci slots (using a riser cable), is it possible to put slim 120mm fans (think prolimatech ultrasleeks or scythe slipstream slims) below the gpu? I understand that if it is possible, it'd be extremely tight.
It's not possible. There's around 8mm between the GPU and bottom of the case when it's in the lowermost slot.

Necere, you might consider updating the NCase website to mention SFX-L power supplies.
Thanks, I've added it to the compatibility section.
 
Have this case got any useable water reservoir yet?

Also, the CD-rom how well does it work? will it scratch any CD'es or is it pretty fool-proof?
 
Have this case got any useable water reservoir yet?

Also, the CD-rom how well does it work? will it scratch any CD'es or is it pretty fool-proof?
The FrozenQ res was designed specifically for the M1, and has been available since 2013.

Are you asking about slim slot-load optical drives in general? Because the case doesn't come with one. I haven't heard of anyone having problems with scratched discs in this type of drive.
 
The FrozenQ res was designed specifically for the M1, and has been available since 2013.

Are you asking about slim slot-load optical drives in general? Because the case doesn't come with one. I haven't heard of anyone having problems with scratched discs in this type of drive.

Yeah I know about the FrozenQ res, but I've spoken with multiple people saying it's shit quality, screw threads gets broken easily and to be honest it even looks low quality from they pictures they themselves have posted. So I was wondering about an alternative to this.

Not in general, was more thinking about the aluminium edge you have to push your CD'es trough to reach the slot-load it seems just slim enough to fit a CD and any mis measurement seems to destroy the CD?
 
Reservoirs - nothing commercially produced is with this case in mind. It will be up to you to find a solution that works for the NCASE, through clever mounting on the outside, using a smaller GPU inside the case at account for a res internally, etc.

The M1's ODD slot is much larger than a CD. You are over-thinking this.
 
Yeah I know about the FrozenQ res, but I've spoken with multiple people saying it's shit quality, screw threads gets broken easily and to be honest it even looks low quality from they pictures they themselves have posted. So I was wondering about an alternative to this.
They had some quality problems for a while, but it's my understanding that those have been sorted out and it hasn't been an issue for a while.

Not in general, was more thinking about the aluminium edge you have to push your CD'es trough to reach the slot-load it seems just slim enough to fit a CD and any mis measurement seems to destroy the CD?
I haven't heard any reports of any issues with the slot itself. Nevertheless, I did make it slightly wider as of v3, just to be on the safe side.
 
Are you asking about slim slot-load optical drives in general? Because the case doesn't come with one. I haven't heard of anyone having problems with scratched discs in this type of drive.

In fact the slot is perfectly sized. I've tried adjusting the screws to their minimum and maximum, and even aim the drive at different angles. I wasn't able to get a disc to scrape the case panel when ejecting (M1v1).
 
Indeed it is. I'm surprised the size was increased in the V3.

I'll likely be buying a V4 to compliment my old V1. The V1 will likely become my server/file storage rig once I downscale the amount of drives and the V4 will be used for a build in the future. I'll likely get Silver this time around.
 
In fact the slot is perfectly sized. I've tried adjusting the screws to their minimum and maximum, and even aim the drive at different angles. I wasn't able to get a disc to scrape the case panel when ejecting (M1v1).

This is good to hear!! :)

They had some quality problems for a while, but it's my understanding that those have been sorted out and it hasn't been an issue for a while.

I haven't heard any reports of any issues with the slot itself. Nevertheless, I did make it slightly wider as of v3, just to be on the safe side.

That is also good, where there every any plans releasing an official res?

Also seems like many are using the CPU block with a integrated pump, litt this cause issues with this since it's higher then the res?
 
Also seems like many are using the CPU block with a integrated pump, litt this cause issues with this since it's higher then the res?

Once the system is primed, it's not really an issue anymore. The general recommendation of a reservoir being higher than the pump is to prevent air from feeding into the pump, which should not happen unless you have a leak, or are filling the loop anyway.
 
Also seems like many are using the CPU block with a integrated pump, litt this cause issues with this since it's higher then the res?

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It was a pain in the @ss to get the coolant flowing to both sides of the CPU block but now it works great.
 
That is also good, where there every any plans releasing an official res?
There weren't. The FrozenQ res is as close as you'll get, considering it was specifically designed to fit on the rear mount of the M1. I've seen a few other builds using different reservoirs though.
 
Necere, can you give me all 4 panel dimensions in mm.
I know the thickness is 1.5mm aluminum construction, brushed and anodized exterior. But I couldn't find the panel dimensions anywhere. The reason I ask is because I want to get an estimate from a company on how much it would take to paint the exterior panel in white. Always wanted do have my case white. That's one of the reasons I want a new set of black panels. No back screw so it will look seamless. Don't know if anyone did this before but I assume the job needs to be professional since to much added thickness in paint and the panels won't fit in properly in the case.
 
I have a v3 and ordered an extra panel kit so I could change colors between black and silver if I wanted but now I'm really wanting to just have a second set of internals. Would it be possible to order the v4 internals only? Maybe you could add an option of "none" when selecting the panel color.

Email me, it really depends on what you need.

I do have one Version 3 chassis, where the panels were sent to a review website, so the chassis is left.
 
...So just to make sure, you'll not have that option available to purchase anytime soon?

I noticed on the website that the black panel set is still out of stock. Will you open orders for that yet or only after the v4 run?

Last question. if ordering the new fan bracket and the psu mount together will they be shipped together?

I'm just wondering if i should wait for the panel with no odd option becomes available to reduce shipping costs on my side.

I can *create a Panel Kit Without ODD Slot by using NO ODD Top Panel and regular Panel Kit.

If you are live in the United States, email me, I *may be able to accommodate this request in the near future. If you live outside of the United States, it will have to wait until later.

If you order the new Fan Bracket and SFX Bracket, they will ship in separate boxes but at the same time.
 
I can *create a Panel Kit Without ODD Slot by using NO ODD Top Panel and regular Panel Kit.

If you are live in the United States, email me, I *may be able to accommodate this request in the near future. If you live outside of the United States, it will have to wait until later.

I live in the uk.:(
I'll wait, since right now you don't have the black panel kit available for order. Just don't forget about me. ;) Thank you
 
Will there be other colors offered for the panel kits with the v4s? Other than the silver/black
 
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