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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Sorry if this has been asked. Can this case fit two separate 120mm radiators? I was thinking of doing an AIO GPU and an AIO CPU unit. Obviously, the hoses / bulge in the radiator will have to face either up or down and not left or right like a normal 240mm radiator. Just wondering if there will be any clearance issues. Thanks.
 
Seyumi said:
Sorry if this has been asked. Can this case fit two separate 120mm radiators? I was thinking of doing an AIO GPU and an AIO CPU unit. Obviously, the hoses / bulge in the radiator will have to face either up or down and not left or right like a normal 240mm radiator. Just wondering if there will be any clearance issues. Thanks.
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Yes it can. See my set up here.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1041594635&postcount=16220
 
AFD said:
Will an Acclero even fit on the taller short ITX-style cards?

EDIT: I'm not sure what possible conflict Arctic might be considering, just wanted to point out that the smaller ITX/Mini cards have a PCB that is taller than reference.
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They may be talking about the clamp system with rear heatsink from the Accelero IV, which is meant for a reference design card, but with a short card you don't want that. The core's position and screwholes are the only points the main heatsink attaches to. It might become a problem if the core is positioned 10mm or more towards the top of the PCB.

Pic from startpost:
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Mind the heatsink at the front of the case.
 
Hanakuso said:
Any plans for a rev 4 once the rev 3 sells out? Any improvements/changes?
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There is one possible change if we do a v4: changing the fan bracket to steel, which would allow for a magnetic attached filter to be included with the case instead of the plastic screw-in filters (though only on the bracket).
 
My PSU died, and i had a 400w Pico PSU laying around. So why not? In theory it could be mounted next to the internal SSD, and allow room for a internal res. the downside being the massive power bricks neded to power it.

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(460 2win there for fullsize GPU placeholder, its deader than dead)
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So much room for activities!
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Anyone here seen Linus's video with the Asrock X99E-ITX board in the Sugo SG13? X99, liquid-cooled 36-thread CPU, Titan X, 32 GB DDR4 all in mini-ITX: SICK. Could we pull off a similar build in the M1? I would not personally spring for that monster Xeon processor or a Titan X, but a 5820K plus a GTX 980 would be fun.

I had kind of written off that board before, as the narrow socket seemed to preclude the use of normal coolers, but in the video, they seem to get it to work with a regular ol' H80i. Boy, if we could get that board in the M1 with an H100i, and power everything with an SFX power supply... mwa ha ha ha ha.

Yes, on a certain level, X99 in mini-ITX is just ridiculous, but wow.
 
AFD said:
Noctua C14S is out, and is supposed to have a new offset different from the standard C14 (to better clear PCIe, though it doesn't state which orientation it's installed to do this).

Just wondering if anyone knows how this might change fitment in the M1 when mounted on a centrally located processor (ASUS), if at all?

http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=111&lng=en
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Unfortunately they made it 10mm taller than the old C14, which means it's not going to fit in the M1 with the fan on top. It might fit with the fan in the lower position, but the old C14 with a 140mm lower fan would run into the SFX bracket. The increased height and RAM clearance on the C14S might be enough to clear the bracket with the fan in the lower position, but it's hard to say without a complete drawing from Noctua.
 
AFD said:
Noctua C14S is out, and is supposed to have a new offset different from the standard C14 (to better clear PCIe, though it doesn't state which orientation it's installed to do this).

Just wondering if anyone knows how this might change fitment in the M1 when mounted on a centrally located processor (ASUS), if at all?

http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=111&lng=en
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It looks as though it's still going to block the HDD cage. Worse yet, the fan has to be put underneath and then it's too short to reach the side panel.
 
Bummer.. was hoping it was perhaps just a shift in direction enough to allow the 3.5" HDD cage (something similar to the fitment of the Scythe Kabuto II). Without room for a top fan, the new C14S is a non-starter imo.

Thanks guys, really appreciate it!
 
Wow, this thread got huge since the last time I been here.

I see there's so much interest they did a 2nd round of these cases. I've just been enjoying mine. :)

Are there any new AIR based CPU coolers I need to know about? Still rocking the NH-C12P from Noctua. I saw Silverstone finally came out with a 600W SFX PSU, I couldn't do the wait and settled for the 450 available at the time.

I think my ram sticks are going bad, BBOD and general crashing during gaming... it will be interesting to try and get them out and begin to test them 1 by 1 without disturbing that huge cooler.
 
Aftermath101 said:
Wow, this thread got huge since the last time I been here.

I see there's so much interest they did a 2nd round of these cases. I've just been enjoying mine. :)

Are there any new AIR based CPU coolers I need to know about? Still rocking the NH-C12P from Noctua. I saw Silverstone finally came out with a 600W SFX PSU, I couldn't do the wait and settled for the 450 available at the time.

I think my ram sticks are going bad, BBOD and general crashing during gaming... it will be interesting to try and get them out and begin to test them 1 by 1 without disturbing that huge cooler.
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They did a 3rd round too :)
 
I sent BeQuiet! an email asking about their upcoming Dark Rock TF, the representative who replied said they were aiming to have them available to buy by the 26th, for around 80.

Really excited for it, it's supposed to be similar dimensions to the NH-C14, but with some extra heatsink on the bottom, and in black!

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Curiositie said:
I sent BeQuiet! an email asking about their upcoming Dark Rock TF, the representative who replied said they were aiming to have them available to buy by the 26th, for around 80.

Really excited for it, it's supposed to be similar dimensions to the NH-C14, but with some extra heatsink on the bottom, and in black!

http://www.purepc.pl/files/Image/news/2015/01/be_quiet_dark_rock_tf_1.jpg
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Awesome! Been excited for this cooler. And now with the new nh-c14s it should be interesting to see how they compare.
 
Hi all,
Does anyone know of a more powerful PSU than the SX600 that would still allow for a full length graphics card in the NCase m1? I have a 5960x and a Titan X on the new Asrock X99E-ITX and even with stock clock speeds, the PSU isn't cutting it. I get constant reboots and bsod's. I wired in a 750w PSU (setting it beside the case) to confirm that the PSU was the issue. As of now, it looks like I will have to move everything to the rather bulky and less elegant Corsair 250d that I have lying around.
 
Ed_Pasterino said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know of a more powerful PSU than the SX600 that would still allow for a full length graphics card in the NCase m1? I have a 5960x and a Titan X on the new Asrock X99E-ITX and even with stock clock speeds, the PSU isn't cutting it. I get constant reboots and bsod's. I wired in a 750w PSU (setting it beside the case) to confirm that the PSU was the issue. As of now, it looks like I will have to move everything to the rather bulky and less elegant Corsair 250d that I have lying around.
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I doubt the problem is insufficient power - reviews put whole system power consumption under 400W for a similar setup. The only thing I can think of besides a bad unit is there might be some issue with the PSU and the Titan X specifically (as apparently there was with the Titan Z). You might try contacting Silverstone to make sure they've validated the PSU with the Titan X. If they say it should work, then it could just be a bad unit and you'll have to RMA.
 
That was your 1000th post on this thread Necere :D

Keep up the good work, you've come a long way.
 
rawrr said:
That was your 1000th post on this thread Necere :D

Keep up the good work, you've come a long way.
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Was it? How about that... and at 980 days since the thread started, that's an average of just over a post a day. It sure doesn't feel like I've posted that much... or that it's been that long. It's been quite a journey. It's cool to see some of the other top posters that have been here since the beginning - Phuncz, AFD, WiSK to name just the first few - are still regularly contributing to the thread. I'll say it again: we couldn't have done all of this without you guys. My thanks to all of you.
 
Question!
I can't seem to find a definite answer here.

Does the Nvidia Gtx 980 Gaming from Msi fit the M1?
And will the sharkoon silent storm sfx be enough?(500W and 4790k)
 
Necere said:
It seems unlikely. The MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G does fit, and despite the fact they have virtually the same dimensions, the 980 has a taller PCB (980 vs. 970) and will by the looks of it have the same problem as the ASUS Strix cards, where the PCB runs into the panel retaining clip.

Ought to be fine.
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Thanks for your quick reply.
Are there any dangers to cutting the pcb like he did?
It's just the sli connectors, right?
 
Ed_Pasterino said:
I have a 5960x and a Titan X on the new Asrock X99E-ITX and even with stock clock speeds, the PSU isn't cutting it. I get constant reboots and bsod's. I wired in a 750w PSU (setting it beside the case) to confirm that the PSU was the issue.
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Like Necere said, sounds like a defective unit. I know the wattage is enough because I'm powering a 5930K and dual 980s off a SX600-G and it handles running both Prime and FurMark with room to spare.
 
Aibohphobia said:
Like Necere said, sounds like a defective unit. I know the wattage is enough because I'm powering a 5930K and dual 980s off a SX600-G and it handles running both Prime and FurMark with room to spare.
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Hmm, your dual 980's and 5930k should be way over what I am pulling from the PSU. I'll send an email to Silverstone. Thanks for the input.
 
Necere said:
Was it? How about that... and at 980 days since the thread started, that's an average of just over a post a day. It sure doesn't feel like I've posted that much... or that it's been that long. It's been quite a journey. It's cool to see some of the other top posters that have been here since the beginning - Phuncz, AFD, WiSK to name just the first few - are still regularly contributing to the thread. I'll say it again: we couldn't have done all of this without you guys. My thanks to all of you.
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Thanks to you and Wahaha360 for the incredible case and making the SFF world a better place ! Many people will have been inspired by your successful project to take their passion to the community !
I've always felt responsible to share my experiences and (usually) serious opinions to help people find their way in the SFF jungle. But thanks is always appreciated !
 
skjetne said:
Question!
I can't seem to find a definite answer here.

Does the Nvidia Gtx 980 Gaming from Msi fit the M1?
And will the sharkoon silent storm sfx be enough?(500W and 4790k)
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The MSI Gaming 980 fits fine once you remove a single panel retaining clip at the rear of the case. It does require low-profile PCIe power extensions though, otherwise you won't be able to get the side panel back on.
 
makar1 said:
The MSI Gaming 980 fits fine once you remove a single panel retaining clip at the rear of the case. It does require low-profile PCIe power extensions though, otherwise you won't be able to get the side panel back on.
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Thanks makar1!

If its just the retaining clip i'll look into getting a pci-e extension-ribbon and use the lower position with the fans to the bottom. Do you know where I can get those power extensions?

Maybe a thing to change on the v4 necere?

Btw, why are there no subreddit for Ncases?
 
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Subreddit? Why would a subreddit be necessary? Reddit is very content-driven, and I cannot see a subreddit thriving on just NCASE stuff. Eventually you will run out of M1 builds logs and things to discuss, and you'll end up with a pretty dead subreddit with the occasional self post about some improvement or other.

I think this forum is pretty sufficient.
 
skjetne said:
Thanks makar1!

If its just the retaining clip i'll look into getting a pci-e extension-ribbon and use the lower position with the fans to the bottom. Do you know where I can get those power extensions?

Maybe a thing to change on the v4 necere?

Btw, why are there no subreddit for Ncases?
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There are some low profile extensions on Ebay. I made some myself from standard extensions.

There's not really any reason to change the case. There are still more than enough clips to secure the side panel if you remove one, and it's very easy to remove a clip.
 
DaHans said:
Did anyone try to get a Shuttle itx x79 Board in the M1 case?
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I haven't heard of anyone attempting it. I think the main problem would be figuring out where to mount the PSU, since it's normally mounted up front and Shuttle boards are much longer than mini-ITX.


Some people have asked about whether video cards with integrated closed-loop liquid coolers would fit in the M1, and as part of Hardware Canucks review of the EVGA GTX 980 Hybrid they just did, they tried it and it fits:

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Necere said:
I haven't heard of anyone attempting it. I think the main problem would be figuring out where to mount the PSU, since it's normally mounted up front and Shuttle boards are much longer than mini-ITX.
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Maybe if you mount the Shuttle PSU in the front. (Dont know waht the form factor is called.
But it has 200 x 82 x 53 mm.
The Board itself maybe fits with 270mm.
 
Hello,

I have a problem with choosing a right GPU for my M1 setup.

Currnet parts are:
NCASE M1 v2
Chieftec 500W sfx-l
Asus Z97i-plus
i5-4690K
Noctua C12P-SE14
2x 3,5" HDD in side panel cage
2x 2,5" on front panel

In plan also adding 92mm noctua on the rear.

Now i want to add a GTX 970. Question is which one to get the quietest setup??? My goal is to get silent setup in idle, under load it can be noisier

For now i figured out two configurations:

MSI GTX 970 GAMING (0 fan mode)

One of the short cards (Zotac, gigabyte mini etc) + arctic accelero iv with 2x 120mm noctuas on the bottom (exhaust or intake is also a question)

How do you think?
 
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Has anyone got custom cables made by moddiy for the st45sf? If so what lengths did you get for the various cables?
 
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