ksanders2006
Limp Gawd
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Can't he be charged for this?
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Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham
To be honest, I think that if you can fool people, get away with it, and not break any laws, go for it. People are idiots. Might as well take advantage of it.
Amen to that.Originally posted by Phoenix86
Not to mention the shady things they have done in the past. Reward good companies like djnes just mentioned with your cash, why give people a second chance when there are much better choices already available?
Originally posted by mobiux
See, i think that's where the problem with this is.
It's fraud, which is obviously against the law.
He's claiming to sell something that's fake.
Now if he was selling a 486 computer, claimed it was a 486 computer, didn't make any bogus claims, and someone still paid $2000 then yeah, I see nothing wrong with it.
A fool and his money as they say.
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Originally posted by defcom_1
Maybe [H] could try to get a review sample?
But the resulting drama that ensues guarantees hilarity.Originally posted by FrgMstr
We looked into these guys last year and decided that giving them ANY press was the wrong thing to do.
Originally posted by kronchev
HMMMM very nice
"United States Navy California/Sidewinder Missile Development Team "
I think I have some navy research contacts who would be very interested in this claim of drooling...
LoL.Originally posted by eyedol
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I Googled 'TXK Hyper drive' with no results.Processors alone, don't make a computer fast....
It's The Hard Drive System More than 4 X faster than any other system and exclusive to Michaels Computers, the TXK Hyper drives allow Michaels MX7s to load rapidly and with No to Little waiting time. Business programs are clicked and ready to go and game levels load immediately. Michaels Exclusive TXK drive systems are available from 240GB to an overly impressive 500GB (thats over 500,000 MB)
Michael's TXK breaks the video/sound barrier with RAID 0 striping data speeds that easily exceed that of a single Ultra ATA/133 drive and burst loading speeds to up to 266MB per second!
New performance twists are embedded that leave other systems far behind and in the dust.
We took a modern game (in this case, Will Rock) and ran it side by side a competitor. We won't mention their name, but their company name sounds like they should be running a Taco stand (i.e. Del Taco).
With "their" RAID setup and running Will Rock, all graphics were smooth (well of course, they use the same graphic cards as we do), but the transition effects, where the power of RAID truly demonstrates, loading time was about 10-12 seconds per level. That was SLOW and UNACCEPTABLE by our standards.
I can only say that because of comparison standards. With our TXK RAID setup, graphics were smooth as can be and transitions were 0-1 seconds in loading time!
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LOL! I'd hate to have a pissed Marine on my tail!Originally posted by skinlab
rofl
maybe theyll be knocking on his door soon. id like to see that on film....
Originally posted by CaNaDian PyRo
I Googled 'TXK Hyper drive' with no results.
Originally posted by CrimandEvil
LOL! I'd hate to have a pissed Marine on my tail!
Michaels Exclusive TXK drive systems are available from 240GB to an overly impressive 500GB (thats over 500,000 MB)
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I have to agree with you. They should have waited until Michael's gave them a PC to review, or they should have just gone out and bought one. Maybe doing some real investigative work and finding some previous customers would have been a good idea. Making all this fuss without hard evidence is not fair. Sure there is a 98% chance that Michael's claims are full of BS, but you can't run someone into the ground like that.Originally posted by Mojo
I read the article, and watched the interview. I thought it was unneeded. Tom's shouldn't have done that. Waste of time, and effort. I see where they're coming from to watch out for frauds on the internet, but I feel it was unecessary for them to go out and actually cross examine someone like that. If they want to fraud, go ahead. If the customer is too stupid to even think about what stores are good and do some research for like 5 minutes, then in my opinion, they deserve to be ripped the hell off.
Originally posted by Met-AL
I have to agree with you. They should have waited until Michael's gave them a PC to review, or they should have just gone out and bought one. Maybe doing some real investigative work and finding some previous customers would have been a good idea. Making all this fuss without hard evidence is not fair. Sure there is a 98% chance that Michael's claims are full of BS, but you can't run someone into the ground like that.
One question I have about the interview is did Michael know it was being taped? If not and it was a concealed camera, recording the audio part of it is a violation of federal law. A person can secretly shoot all the video and photo's they want, but recording audio is a whole different ball game.
And to Logiks, posting peoples personal info on the boards, especially when they are "innocent bystanders", just isn't a nice courteous thing to do.
Originally posted by Mo_BurLy
"No one here wanted to risk $2000 on trying to buy a unit."
Why not? I think you guys should have tried to buy one of these POSs under a pseudo name and then sue the shit out of him for false advertising....
Yes I read your article.Originally posted by not5150
I am the reporter who did the article... I will address your incorrect points
1. There are no pcs. We tried to get a review unit, other review sites have tried to get a review unit. No one here wanted to risk $2000 on trying to buy a unit.
How do you review a non-existent computer? Would you order a non-existent computer?
2. We did contact previous customers. Rather they contacted us, didn't you read the article?
3. Regarding the videotaping, please go to the Sharky Forums... you will see the answer there.
4. Regarding the legality of audio taping. You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on that. In the public (outside of a house/building/etc) there is no expectation of privacy. You can secretely audio/video tape anyone.
You are confusing private situations and public situations. In a private closed door meeting, secret audio taping would be illegal, unless you are the owner of the building/business.
Humphrey Cheung
Editor - www.tomshardware.com
Originally posted by CrimandEvil
Thats called "Entrapment", "fraud", and "Indentity thief" and with a few other felonies tacked on you will easily spent just as much time behind bars as he would, then again the case agianst him could just as easily be thrown out because of the fraudulant ways that the evidence was obtained. Does that sound fun? Well maybe if you call bunking with some guy named "bubba" fun?
Originally posted by Met-AL
Yes I read your article.
1. If you didn't want to risk $2000 on a unit, then why do the story. The whole issue with this guy is his outlandish claims about his PC's. Would I buy a PC to back my story. Hell yes. That's the whole point.
2. You did not interview any customers. You showed a couple of e-mails, but no interviews. Big deal. I didn't say get emails, I said interviews.
3. I am not going to Sharky Forums to look around for some huge 10 page thread. If you want people to go check, please post a link or quote.
4. You say I'm wrong. I may be wrong. Your are the professional journalist so I am taking you for your word. Besides, it's a not really a legal matter now, since you didn't conseal the camera (based on not5150's reply). But if you weren't consealing the camera, then why didn't you hold it up at eye level like a pro would do? Still shady.
Basicaly, my point is: Tom's Hardware is not some noob website. It plays a large role in the hardware community, wether everyone likes that fact or not, it does. Running some tabloid like story on that website is out of place. JMIO.
Originally posted by CrimandEvil
Thats called "Entrapment", "fraud", and "Indentity thief" and with a few other felonies tacked on you will easily spent just as much time behind bars as he would, then again the case agianst him could just as easily be thrown out because of the fraudulant ways that the evidence was obtained. Does that sound fun? Well maybe if you call bunking with some guy named "bubba" fun?
A bit off topic, but why didn't you just concentrate on taking the video properly, then after that take it home and watch it, then copy your notes as you watch it? Would've worked better...Originally posted by not5150
"Camera was under my left arm... wasn't hidden.
It was the only way I could hold my notepad with my left hand and write with my right hand.
The bad angle is because I'm 5'5" and he is a giant 6'4" at least."