burningrave101
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rayman2k2 said:and at a time, AMD f4nboys said it would counter Conroe.
At the moment AM2 is doing well enough to counter socket 939 processors.
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rayman2k2 said:and at a time, AMD f4nboys said it would counter Conroe.
chemist_slime said:Whatever, I have hellla stock invested in AMD so yes, I do want AMD to get back onto it. Name calling, hmm, how mature...
rox1co said:are there any prices on Conroe compatible Motherboards? would i have to buy a completely new HSF?
Asian Dub Foundation said:easy come easy go. its about time Intel comes back with a punch anyways. i have no doubt AMD will produce results with K8L
viper650 said:performance has no name, only a price tag.
lithium726 said:rofl.
Dude, where did you get your CPU?
it was the prize in a box of life...
flynlr said:what torques my monkey is the damn motherboard issue. I remember when I had my FIC PA2007 with 2mb L2 cache I could drop either an K62 or the intel flavor of the month in it. but now adays when changing MFR you gotta change the MB.
Ninja edit: no monkeys were harmed with Torque wrenches.
Try 1H2007. AMD said this at their analysts day on June 1st; you can find the slides and webcast on AMD's site.I agree that K8L should perform well. But it won't be out till 2008.
visaris said:Try 1H2007. AMD said this at their analysts day on June 1st; you can find the slides and webcast on AMD's site.
$BangforThe$ said:This article says differant. To be honest AMD is being overly optamistic here . mid 2007 could mean 1H or 2H If amd lives up to what we seen with hammer as this is more than likely the case . 2H2008 would be more about the time it will appear. Amd is having big problems with 65nm process. AM2 has been pulled from the market .
http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2637
I think K8L in the first half of 2008 is being optamistic. Now thats just going by AMD'S past track record. I hope I am wrong but given the problems with the 65nm process and AM2 being pulled from the market. H2 2008 is more than likely correct.
$BangforThe$ said:This article says differant. To be honest AMD is being overly optamistic here . mid 2007 could mean 1H or 2H If amd lives up to what we seen with hammer as this is more than likely the case . 2H2008 would be more about the time it will appear. Amd is having big problems with 65nm process. AM2 has been pulled from the market .
http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2637
I think K8L in the first half of 2008 is being optamistic. Now thats just going by AMD'S past track record. I hope I am wrong but given the problems with the 65nm process and AM2 being pulled from the market. H2 2008 is more than likely correct.
$BangforThe$ said:Since IDF this is what we got from AMD.
1.) AM2 2% performance gain (seems to be missing in action)
2) K8L mid 2007( Very optatmistic given AMD's very very small research team)
3) 4x4 which was stated to be coming soon. ( Yet its been reported that NO M/B makers have seen nor heard of it.) This is a year away . How much harder is K8L to deliver????
Amd is in trouble with Conroe and they are putting out a lot of hype right now. The bleeding hasn't even started yet. Face it Conroe caught AMD off guard and its going to take more than 1 year to counter it. Conroe took years to develop. K9 and K10 were scraped. So when was K8L started . Post a link to the first time any news was added About K8L than add 3+ years to that.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1061197&page=1
Ockie said:AM2 pulled from the market? WTF u talking about?
$BangforThe$ said:From the thread you started Ockie. I am A little disappointed that you should be asking me .WTF u talking about ? When the only info I have on it was from you.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1063076
$BangforThe$ said:Face it Conroe caught AMD off guard and its going to take more than 1 year to counter it. http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1061197&page=1
Asian Dub Foundation said:what AMD did to intel with the A64, intel is just returning the favor
savantu said:When did a A64 with similar rating as the freq of a P4 actually beat it by more than 5 % ?
Yeah, let's just tack a whole year onto AMD's published release date...$BangforThe$ said:2H2008 would be more about the time it will appear.
Despite all the press and AMD statments that say 65nm will come early and start production at mature yeilds shipping volume models.$BangforThe$ said:Amd is having big problems with 65nm process.
Despite the fact that NewEgg and many other retailers have AM2 CPUs and MBs in stock.$BangforThe$ said:AM2 has been pulled from the market .
$BangforThe$ said:But I ASSUME it won't be out till 2008 and Penryn should be out by than also.
$BangforThe$ said:
ThreeDee said:I just ordered an AM2 setup from newegg ..will be here Friday
my cc has been charged and everything .. seeing as how AM2's have all been pulled , maybe its time to call my lawyer ...?
visaris said:Despite all the press and AMD statments that say 65nm will come early and start production at mature yeilds shipping volume models.
"AMD claims it's catching Intel on 65 nano tech
ROBERT RIVET, chief financial officer of AMD, spoke at the Goldman Sachs technology investment symposium 2005 and gave a fair amount of details on its process plans.
AMD is on track to produce 65 nanometre processors, he said. While he said that Intel is clearly behind AMD on 64-bit technology, AMD won't be that far behind the firm on the move to 65 nanometre. "
Friday 25 February 2005 The Inq
" The whole idea is to begin to process 65-nm in the middle of 2005 and bring it into production in 2006 "Tom Sonderman, the company's director of APM technologies
04/07/2005 EETIMES.com
You prove your worth with every post you make, $BangforThe$.
depends on how you read it. AMD did start working on 65nm back in '05, and are on track to release it in 2006. they never said when in 2006savantu said:Looks like they managed to keep on track , huh ?
visaris said:Yeah, let's just tack a whole year onto AMD's published release date...
Despite all the press and AMD statments that say 65nm will come early and start production at mature yeilds shipping volume models.
Despite the fact that NewEgg and many other retailers have AM2 CPUs and MBs in stock.
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You prove your worth with every post you make, $BangforThe$.
Hito Bahadur said:Exactly, they have been processing 65-nm for a year now. And wow, they will probably start production in 2006. Thanks for showing how AMD is on track savantu. Good to know they haven't gone off mark over the past year.
As far as yields and quantity, AMD might have a partner in Intel as there is a lot of speculation (and slides by Intel) that the Core 2 Duo is going to take a while to take over sales from Pentium 4 and Core Duo (25% of shipments by end of year)
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2771&p=6
Well, to an extent, that is a valid point. By the very end of 2006, I don't think intel is going to have much of a Conroe capacity problem. Still, that is 6 months from now. How are things going to be at launch?savantu said:And for Conroe being 25% of Intel's production that equals more or less AMD's total output.Are AMD CPUs hard to find ?
savantu said:Haha...nope...they are late with 65nm...very late.
And for Conroe being 25% of Intel's production that equals more or less AMD's total output.Are AMD CPUs hard to find ?
savantu said:Haha...nope...they are late with 65nm...very late.
AMD had been talking about 65nm since 2004. But AMD did state delays with 65nm late last year and Tom Sonderman mentioned FAB36 would "begin 65nm production by the end of 2006." (see below) Producing 65nm wafers doesn't mean 65nm CPUs are ready for sale. AMD showed a 65nm wafer this week, but none running.Hito Bahadur said:Would you like to provide a source where AMD said that they would be producing production runs of 65nm parts earlier than mid-year 2006?