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I saw the posts saying that they're not really out of stock and you just have to keep refreshing, so I did. Just got my order in a few min ago and I'm upgrading from a HTC Sensation so it'll be fun seeing how much of a difference the phone makes
Same here. I had the 16 GB version in my cart 5 times. I wasn't planning on keeping it. Just reselling it at a $50-100 up-charge.Nexus 4 launch is a failure for Google Play
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexus-4-launch-is-a-failure-for-Google-Play_id36581
Fair warning: we tried to purchase a Nexus 4 from the Google Play Store when it went on sale today in the US, and were unable to purchase one, so there is a fair chance that this article will be a touch angry. That said, the Nexus 4 launch today was a complete failure for the Google Play Store, because our experience was one that many users faced.
The rumor had been that the Nexus 4 would go on sale at noon EST (9AM PST), but Google jumped the gun, and the actual launch happened somewhere around 11:36AM EST (8:36AM PST). Unfortunately, the launch was anything but smooth. There were no fewer than 6 times when we had a Nexus 4 in our Google Play shopping cart, but we were not able to purchase the device any of those times because of various errors, and we weren't alone.
Craigslist is chock full of Nexus 4 LOL Some ads seem legit with order #'s and delivery date, others say pick up tomorrow, LOL, like they will even have them tomorrow ?
One guy listed a "Galaxy Nexus 4", the newest Android smartphone, sealed and in the box never opened. Selling for $550. LOL WTF phone does he have ? No way he has an actual LG Nexus 4 yet. I suppose maybe it's the T-Mobile version out already ?
I wasn't planning on keeping it. Just reselling it at a $50-100 up-charge.
Are you EST?
capitalism...You didn't deserve to get one then anyway.
capitalism...
capitalism...
it'll be sold unlocoked as GSM/HSPA+ compatible -- No LTE mentioned.
I don't see the big craze with LTE, the data caps are so ridiculous, speed is not really important. If you actually sustain something long enough at the max speed you'll reach the cap in minutes. We need caps that are either non existent, or equivalent to regular internet.
I think for this iteration Google aimed for an aggressive pricing scheme. Not sure exactly how much a no contract iphone 5 sells for, but I doubt it's anywhere near the $349 of the Nexus
Tethering my PC to my phone sees me easily passing 5GB of data. Last month I went slightly above 10GB. Pretty much my #1 reason for wanting 4G. Otherwise, I am okay without it.I don't see the big craze with LTE, the data caps are so ridiculous, speed is not really important. If you actually sustain something long enough at the max speed you'll reach the cap in minutes. We need caps that are either non existent, or equivalent to regular internet.
Tethering my PC to my phone sees me easily passing 5GB of data. Last month I went slightly above 10GB. Pretty much my #1 reason for wanting 4G. Otherwise, I am okay without it.
Tethering my PC to my phone sees me easily passing 5GB of data. Last month I went slightly above 10GB. Pretty much my #1 reason for wanting 4G. Otherwise, I am okay without it.
I have to ask. Why would your order a phone that does not have LTE? If I had to go back to regular 4g or even 3g speeds I would explode. LTE is 10 times faster than either 4g or 3g in my area anyway (CA Bay Area At&T) I would have gotten the N4 in a heart beat but no LTE just killed it for me. Almost every review said the same thing. That this phone could have been a awesome phone but because of no LTE its a critical flaw. Now I understand alot of people don't have LTE in their area, but it just doesn't make any sense to me. You could have gotten an S3 or any other unlocked LTE phone for like $100 more.
In the UK, LTE has just launched but coverage is minimal. I know for a fact my nearest city won't get it till 2nd Quarter of next year but that's on one network. The same network that wants to change £36/m for 500MB download limit; begs the question of why have 4G speeds??I have to ask. Why would your order a phone that does not have LTE? If I had to go back to regular 4g or even 3g speeds I would explode. LTE is 10 times faster than either 4g or 3g in my area anyway (CA Bay Area At&T) I would have gotten the N4 in a heart beat but no LTE just killed it for me. Almost every review said the same thing. That this phone could have been a awesome phone but because of no LTE its a critical flaw. Now I understand alot of people don't have LTE in their area, but it just doesn't make any sense to me. You could have gotten an S3 or any other unlocked LTE phone for like $100 more.
The problem is America is the largest demographics for smartphone and also the most high tech market. The LG Optimus G is using the Qualcomm MDM9615 3G/4G modem, which is a multi-modal modem. This multi-modal modem only requires firmware to change it from one LTE spectrum to the other. The Nexus 4, instead, is using the MDM9215 which is a 3G only modem. What kind of BS is that?!?In the UK, LTE has just launched but coverage is minimal. I know for a fact my nearest city won't get it till 2nd Quarter of next year but that's on one network. The same network that wants to change £36/m for 500MB download limit; begs the question of why have 4G speeds??
So just remember, Google wants this phone to go global and the majority of the world uses GSM and hasn't got widespread LTE/4G yet.
The problem is America is the largest demographics for smartphone and also the most high tech market. The LG Optimus G is using the Qualcomm MDM9615 3G/4G modem, which is a multi-modal modem. This multi-modal modem only requires firmware to change it from one LTE spectrum to the other. The Nexus 4, instead, is using the MDM9215 which is a 3G only modem. What kind of BS is that?!?
Google doesn't have the update the radios, so all they'll have to do is launch it and license it once, and reuse the same roaming list with later updates. They could have make it modular. And as for carriers, it was only Verizon being a bitch. The way the carriers are will not change. Google claims that LTE modems are not advanced enough to support every LTE in the world. The MDM9615 has proved that to be a false statement. And, obviously, Google had access to it. So if that's still not enough, then that means Google will never put LTE in their phones again. If Microsoft can update all phones at the same time, why can't Google with just their one line of Nexus devices? That's why this is total BS from Google.Sure, if they kept the chip from the Optimus G they can switch between LTE spectrums via firmware, but for Google to get the phone on those networks it'll require the phone to be licensed and certified for each of them. Google has already expressed their displeasure with how it worked out last time (particularly with regards to the software update process), so it seems fairly evident why they didn't go with LTE for now. Not really seeing the "BS".
Google doesn't have the update the radios, so all they'll have to do is launch it and license it once, and reuse the same roaming list with later updates. They could have make it modular. And as for carriers, it was only Verizon being a bitch. The way the carriers are will not change. Google claims that LTE modems are not advanced enough to support every LTE in the world. The MDM9615 has proved that to be a false statement. And, obviously, Google had access to it. So if that's still not enough, then that means Google will never put LTE in their phones again. If Microsoft can update all phones at the same time, why can't Google with just their one line of Nexus devices? That's why this is total BS from Google.
Tethering my PC to my phone sees me easily passing 5GB of data. Last month I went slightly above 10GB. Pretty much my #1 reason for wanting 4G. Otherwise, I am okay without it.
What part of different firmware do you not understand? Apple also only has two models in America; the Verizon/Sprint version on also roam the world LTE. The third model is for the world.This is incorrect. You are using wishful thinking as a basis for fact. It doesn't work this way. Apple used the same radio in the iPhone 5. They still had to release 3 different versions and still could not support even half of the utilized LTE bands in use today.
Qualcomm's next radios give us some hope, but the current radio is not the panacea you wish it to be.
Where is your proof? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)Getting angry and insulting someone doesn't make you right. Didn't work before and won't work now. If it was as simple as you say, Google would have done it. Even Apple couldn't do it with one model, hence 3 different models. And no, there are between 35 and 46 LTE bands in use in the world today. Cherry picking a smaller amount does not make you correct.
Bottom line is, you are wrong, as usual. Now do as you always do and get the last word in so that you can feel better about yourself.
Again, you're not seeing the bigger picture here. The Google wants one model of this phone to work all over the world and the US isn't the whole world...The problem is America is the largest demographics for smartphone and also the most high tech market. The LG Optimus G is using the Qualcomm MDM9615 3G/4G modem, which is a multi-modal modem. This multi-modal modem only requires firmware to change it from one LTE spectrum to the other. The Nexus 4, instead, is using the MDM9215 which is a 3G only modem. What kind of BS is that?!?
The MDM9615 multi-modal modem could have taken at least 10 different basebands. Google could support 2 or 3 devices would cover most of the world instead of the 5 or 6 like the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus S before that. The American market now demands LTE. So the Nexus 4 is just an "enthusiast" device for fanboys - myself included. People can get other android phones with LTE; but Google could have made a killer phone.Again, you're not seeing the bigger picture here. The Google wants one model of this phone to work all over the world and the US isn't the whole world...
As others have mentioned already, there's costs and delays when adding LTE support. No one said they couldn't do it technically like Apple but when you're on a tight schedule and LTE worldwide is still in its infancy then it isn't a priority. Besides, can you imagine Verizon allow Google direct updates for the Nexus 4? It didn't happen with the last Nexus...
The MDM9615 multi-modal modem could have taken at least 10 different basebands. Google could support 2 or 3 devices would cover most of the world instead of the 5 or 6 like the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus S before that. The American market now demands LTE. So the Nexus 4 is just an "enthusiast" device for fanboys - myself included. People can get other android phones with LTE; but Google could have made a killer phone.
Google should have ignored Verizon in the first place and be GSM carriers only. And in America, there's only two GSM carriers with LTE or preparing for LTE. They operate on 700Mhz, 1700MHz, and 2100MHz. So instead of a pentaband (5) phone which supports 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz, just make it a hexaband (6) phone with the additional 700 MHz band. That's LTE in America. Then for the second phone, just do what Apple did on their world iPhone 5 model. It's that easy.