JOHN WICK 4 AND MATRIX 4 THREAD (All Keanu)

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The original Matrix machines needed the human batteries because Li-on battery tech was too pricey. But now...
 

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How dangerous would it have been to mass release the human fields by detonating an emp close by?

Or better question, what strategy could they have done to mass release those humans in the fields?

From what I recall, nothing really changed for all those stuck inside the matrix at the end of M3 lol.
It would have killed every single human there. None of the humans would be capable of moving much less do anything else because of muscle atrophy. Beyond that, there would have been no way to recover the humans or keep them alive until something could be done. They would literally drown before anything could have been done.

There was never any plan to mass release humans. The stated reason from the movies is because most people wouldn't be able to handle it. Most people's minds would break and they would go insane at best. Dropping millions of people onto a rather small community and expect the small community to feed and care for all of them would be impossible.
 

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Releasing them on HBOmax is pretty cool. Idk how they plan to make money on a movie by not charging a extra fee like Disney+. Either way it nice not having to go to theaters anymore for movies. I got a decent Atmos setup at home and a comfy couch.
 

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That's a good point. Morpheus wouldn't be amazed by that, he would know what it was and why he's seeing it. Something is fucky!
Yep, anyone that sees the mirror for the first time is being freed. In this case a program being freed, same as what the Merovingian does.
So the new Morpheus can very well be a freed program helping Neo, getting around the actual canon death of Morpheus.

Neo goes through the door, not the mirror, which means he's The One and blue hair woman could be another version of The One as well in that version of the Matrix.
This lends to the brothers/sisters maybe introducing a female/trans The One.
 

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Would Neo have broken the vase if the Oracle told him to not worry about it?
 

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He wouldn't have, but the Oracle would have always said that. Meaning there was no timeline when the vase was not broken.

That doesn't make sense then. Unless I'm missing something, Neo only was there once. Unless the same has happened for all the others Morpheus brought to her?
 

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It's kind of hard to understand but it makes sense. Neo broke the vase because the Oracle said not to worry about it.

But the Oracle could see the future, of Neo breaking the vase, and also of her telling him not to worry. But she may not be able to change the future, in which case both the vase breaking and her mentioning it were a sort of fate.
 

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I really liked the first matrix movie. Second was ok, I thought it was good but not as good as the first one. Third I'd rather not talk about....

But here's the thing. They ended the series pretty firmly at the end of the third movie. Neo and trinity dead, agent Smith destroyed, peace made with the machines. I can see doing another movie with new characters but bringing the old ones back? Why? And leaving Lawrence fishburne out.....just because?

I want this to be good, I really do. But I can also smell the flaming bag of dog poo. I hope I'm wrong.
Fishburne was killed in the video game which is considered cannon
 

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Fishburne was killed in the video game which is considered cannon
Yes, but Neo and Trinity also died and they are in the new movie.

Neo I can understand, since he merged with the machines, so conceivably could have been reinserted into the matrix. But Trinity's death seemed pretty final.
 

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Yes, but Neo and Trinity also died and they are in the new movie.

Neo I can understand, since he merged with the machines, so conceivably could have been reinserted into the matrix. But Trinity's death seemed pretty final.
But did they? OR was the "real" world just another layer of control? What if the machines are using Neo & Trinity to understand love? The Matrix ultimately is a love story after all.
 

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What the hell. I just signed up. Gonna be worth it to watch the new matrix a bunch of times. I've watched the trailer at least 50 times (no joke).
 

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What the hell. I just signed up. Gonna be worth it to watch the new matrix a bunch of times. I've watched the trailer at least 50 times (no joke).
I'm still disappointed I wasn't able to see TENET in IMAX.
Now here's another movie from a director I like and I have to watch from home.
 

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Honestly, I'm okay with new movies steaming on day one. I mean, the theater experience is still something else, but I have a nice setup at home, it's alright.

In any case, I am going to see Ghost in the Shell (1995) at IMAX next week, but that is a rare exception since I never saw it in the theaters originally and it's a once in a lifetime kind of thing.
 
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Seems a bit awkward to do both on the same day. Yes both are different style of films, but both are heavily based on action and have some overlap. Would probably eat into each others ticket sales. Not that it matters to me really.
I think they are just hurting for box office ticket sales so much that if they offer two movies that cater to very similar audiences then if you get there and one is sold out or at capacity. you can just opt for seeing the other one, instead of a wasted trip to the theater.

I noticed when Disney+ did that thing with the new Black Widow movie where you could choose to watch it at the theater or on the app the same night by paying the extra $28 or whatever it was for that month to watch the movie at home right when it came out on Disney+....there were Blu-ray / UHD quality rips of it on torrent sites already up an hour or two after it released on the same night. Which I could be wrong, but seems like that would definitely hurt sales moreso in the long run as after 24 hours I'm sure many people chose the third option instead of going to a crowded theater during COVID or paying a hefty subscription fee increase just to watch a single movie.
 

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How dangerous would it have been to mass release the human fields by detonating an emp close by?

Or better question, what strategy could they have done to mass release those humans in the fields?

From what I recall, nothing really changed for all those stuck inside the matrix at the end of M3 lol.
Probably just kill a bunch of humans who drown in the amniotic fluid they were sleeping in. If you recall what they said, the machines had fusion, the humans were just a convenient (and stupid) narrative to push the background of the story. Machines should have been able to eradicate every last human and then work on making the world better for them.
 

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I noticed when Disney+ did that thing with the new Black Widow movie where you could choose to watch it at the theater or on the app the same night by paying the extra $28 or whatever it was for that month to watch the movie at home right when it came out on Disney+....there were Blu-ray / UHD quality rips of it on torrent sites already up an hour or two after it released on the same night. Which I could be wrong, but seems like that would definitely hurt sales moreso in the long run as after 24 hours I'm sure many people chose the third option instead of going to a crowded theater during COVID or paying a hefty subscription fee increase just to watch a single movie.
Well they did have 4k streams, so yeah the quality of the movie is definitely there on day 1. Would it hurt sales, sure but how much it hurt is the question, without going into too many *wink wink* details... there is zero way I would go to a theater to watch it even if I got free tickets. So saying I represent a lost sale is just absurd. Now take into account a similar number of people who also wouldn't go to a theater to watch it, but are jazzed about seeing it, and poof all of a sudden you gained sales
 
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