Iphone 6 vs S5

[mmarsh]

Time has come to replace my Galaxy S3 and its down to the Samsung S5 or the Iphone6. I don't think I can wait for the S6, I have many problems with my S3 (especially in regards to the battery) I cannot stand it anymore. Limited to Samsung vs Iphone.

I am not a fanboi nor am I a hater of either product. I have used both Iphone (Iphone 4) and a Samsung S3. The both have pro's and cons.

Neither phone is perfect. Although the Samsung seems to have the better specs and performance I simply hate the OS. I do not it friendly at all and I am a tech geek. 2 years with the S3 and I am still not used to it.

Iphone6 doesn't really impress me either, its appears to be playing 'catch up' to Samsung in terms of specs, but its offers very little in terms of innovation. I think when S6 does come out its going to blow the Iphone6 away. The only thing impressive about the Iphone is the completely unjustified price. But beyond all that, it still l has the best OS hands down. The OS is Iphones sole redeeming quality and yes its important as I hate fumbling around Samsung Menu system looking for some hidden feature.

What do you all think?

 

[Climber]

I think the OS on apple phones is ridiculous. Took me all of 10 minutes to customize Samsung's UI to my liking and I've never looked back.

So yea, hands down the S5, Note 4, Moto X 2014, or Galaxy Alpha,over the iPhone6

 

[QwertyJuan]

I would get the new Moto X myself...

Note 4 would be my next pick.

S5 and iPhone 6 are pretty close to tell you the truth. I "personally" would go with S5 over iPhone 6, but it really is very close.

 

[rflcptr]

Time has come to replace my Galaxy S3 and its down to the Samsung S5 or the Iphone6. I don't think I can wait for the S6, I have many problems with my S3 (especially in regards to the battery) I cannot stand it anymore. Limited to Samsung vs Iphone.

I am not a fanboi nor am I a hater of either product. I have used both Iphone (Iphone 4) and a Samsung S3. The both have pro's and cons.

Neither phone is perfect. Although the Samsung seems to have the better specs and performance I simply hate the OS. I do not it friendly at all and I am a tech geek. 2 years with the S3 and I am still not used to it.

Iphone6 doesn't really impress me either, its appears to be playing 'catch up' to Samsung in terms of specs, but its offers very little in terms of innovation. I think when S6 does come out its going to blow the Iphone6 away. The only thing impressive about the Iphone is the completely unjustified price. But beyond all that, it still l has the best OS hands down. The OS is Iphones sole redeeming quality and yes its important as I hate fumbling around Samsung Menu system looking for some hidden feature.

What do you all think?

based on this, the only thing you perceive being advantageous with the Samsung is a spec sheet - which does not translate to real world performance or experience. even so, are you going to be benchmarking or actually using the device? you already state you "hate the OS" in regards to Samsung - why punish yourself?

 

[Drawmonster]

I used Android phones, specifically Samsung, for the last few years. My Iphone 6+ arrives today. I'm tired of having to root and put a new ROM on android phones to make them halfway decent. Also tired of all the little annoyances that come with android, like how performance degrades over time, and how battery life is great one day, and shit the next. Also hate how Apple users get much more polished apps than Android. Tired of seeing my buddies using the same app, but theres is faster and way better looking.

So much apple hate around here, but if you want a beautiful device that just works, and you can sell and make your money back on, then get an Iphone. If you want a less beautiful device that will need some work and will sell for $100, then go Android.

 

[dr.stevil]

based on this, the only thing you perceive being advantageous with the Samsung is a spec sheet - which does not translate to real world performance or experience. even so, are you going to be benchmarking or actually using the device? you already state you "hate the OS" in regards to Samsung - why punish yourself?

I agree. Even comparing specs within the android world is largely pointless when you start getting into stock Android vs TouchWiz and other UI's/carrier bundled crap. It's even more pointless when comparing it to iOS or WP.

As rflcptr said, if you hate Android, take a look at iOS or WP. Spending $500+ on a device you hate using is silly

 

[Deleted member 232162]

I used Android phones, specifically Samsung, for the last few years. My Iphone 6+ arrives today. I'm tired of having to root and put a new ROM on android phones to make them halfway decent. Also tired of all the little annoyances that come with android, like how performance degrades over time, and how battery life is great one day, and shit the next. Also hate how Apple users get much more polished apps than Android. Tired of seeing my buddies using the same app, but theres is faster and way better looking.

So much apple hate around here, but if you want a beautiful device that just works, and you can sell and make your money back on, then get an Iphone. If you want a less beautiful device that will need some work and will sell for $100, then go Android.

The "beautiful" comment is wholly subjective (i.e. I think it's plain looking). The iPhone is great for what it is, a phone for the masses. No need to hate on Android because you had a shitty user experience tbh.

 

[Deleted whining member 223597]

I would get the new Moto X myself...

Note 4 would be my next pick.

S5 and iPhone 6 are pretty close to tell you the truth. I "personally" would go with S5 over iPhone 6, but it really is very close.

Only problem I have with the Moto X is the meh battery life, the camera doesn't really matter to me.

At this point I would wait at least 1 or 2 more months since there should be a new Nexus or something around November.

 

[mi7chy]

Buy both and return/sell the one you end up not liking. Don't believe the wild stories but form your own opinion.

 

[Wiseguy2001]

Only problem I have with the Moto X is the meh battery life, the camera doesn't really matter to me.

At this point I would wait at least 1 or 2 more months since there should be a new Nexus or something around November.

Don't forget with Android L, it's meant to be around 33% better battery life (Project Volta).

 

[MrCrispy]

The one thing no one can deny about iPhones is their incredible resale value, from private party or official buyback from carriers etc.

You really can sell an iPhone for the price you paid for it 2 years later, which is simply incredible.

 

[Deleted member 232162]

The one thing no one can deny about iPhones is their incredible resale value, from private party or official buyback from carriers etc.

You really can sell an iPhone for the price you paid for it 2 years later, which is simply incredible.

Is it? Or are the people buying them idiots.

These..these are the things.

 

[UnknownSouljer]

I used Android phones, specifically Samsung, for the last few years. My Iphone 6+ arrives today. I'm tired of having to root and put a new ROM on android phones to make them halfway decent. Also tired of all the little annoyances that come with android, like how performance degrades over time, and how battery life is great one day, and shit the next. Also hate how Apple users get much more polished apps than Android. Tired of seeing my buddies using the same app, but theres is faster and way better looking.

So much apple hate around here, but if you want a beautiful device that just works, and you can sell and make your money back on, then get an Iphone. If you want a less beautiful device that will need some work and will sell for $100, then go Android.

This is how I think about the smartphone debate. For whatever reason, people hate Apple on these forums, or just people in general, but I want a phone that simply does what I need it to do. I get why some people want to customize everything, but frankly I don't. I just want to get the Apps I need, I want my phone to be quick, I want my user experience to be seamless (app to app), and I want it to be simple. Are there things I wish I could change about Apple from a software/OS perspective? Yes, absolutely. But the little niggles I have with iOS pale in comparison with the much problems I have with Android (which you, office921 mentioned. Needing custom ROMs, phones loaded with crap-ware, battery life issues, lack of software polish, lack of consistency app to app, etc). So, I wouldn't say that iOS is 'perfect', I would just say that I prefer its method of doing things far more than its competitors.

...The iPhone is great for what it is, a phone for the masses...

Apple encompasses approximately 15% of the smartphone market, whereas I believe Android has 80% (the rest being occupied by other smaller OS vendors such as Windows 7/8, Blackberry 10, and even older versions of Blackberry OS/Symbian/Windows 6/etc). It's not to say that I disagree with your sentiment (really it's a compliment, you're essentially calling Apple "the standard"), but Android is much more 'for the masses' than Apple is.

 

[KENNYB]

Is it? Or are the people buying them idiots.

These..these are the things.

Then you can label AT&T idiots (fine by me) for their generous trade in programs.

 

[ashman]

What features are important to you? Do you use a PC or a Mac?

 

[Drawmonster]

The "beautiful" comment is wholly subjective (i.e. I think it's plain looking). The iPhone is great for what it is, a phone for the masses. No need to hate on Android because you had a shitty user experience tbh.

I've been using android for the last few years. Had a OG Droid, Galaxy Nexus, Note 1, Nexus 5, then Note 2. Problems I mentioned stand true across all android devices I've owned. So don't try to spin my comment with the typical "one bad experience blah blah". I've got years of Android usage, and years of custom roms, custom recoveries, rooting, Davlik, and everything else you need to know in order to get a "pure" android experience.

Simply put, I'm tired of dealing with the baggage that comes with Android. Iphones work. The new ones work very well and they've added a lot of the stuff I used to have to frankenstein my android to get. Like tapping a button and turning my phone into a wifi hotspot. Got custom keyboards to. There are very few things android can do that apple can't, and apple does a lot of things better than android does. Not because I dislike android or am a phanboy, but because I've experience both and used common sense to make a decision.

I have a Macbook as well. Setup my phone earlier and was reading on my macbook. I get a text, it pops up on my macbook and I can reply right from my laptop. I get a phone call, I can answer it right from my macbook. I didn't set this up or root anything, it just worked.

Android is for the masses. It comes loaded with bloatware and every manufacturer has their own crappy version of it. It get's laggy and fragmented over time. I just want something that works. Apple does this.

 

[Aurelius]

Yeah, whatever you think about the capabilities of the phone by itself... if you have other iOS devices or a Mac, it's suddenly a lot more valuable. The Continuity/Handoff elements in iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite just don't have direct equivalents. Even Motorola Connect only kinda-sorta approaches that.

 

[Trimlock]

based on this, the only thing you perceive being advantageous with the Samsung is a spec sheet - which does not translate to real world performance or experience. even so, are you going to be benchmarking or actually using the device? you already state you "hate the OS" in regards to Samsung - why punish yourself?

Essentially this.

If you ask for the best here you will only get opinions. Android people are going to vote for Android and Apple will tell you to get the iPhone.

Personally I'd say get the iPhone but to tell you the truth you should go into the store, play with the device, look for actual user experiences (not android/apple fanboys foaming at the mouth) and form an opinion.

 

[Disposed]

You really need to form your own opinion. People get too fucking serious about phones. Play with both, IMO buy the apple and if you dont like it then it has a higher resale value, youll easily be able to ditch it for the S5.

That said Samsung makes the worst android phones on the market and i wouldnt wipe my ass with an s5 but people like them so take that for whats its worth.

Also keep in mind the iphone 6 is a joke and if you are serious about buying an iphone wait until the next gen. Its a 5s stretched out. I have wanted a bigger iphone for years and they finally release one with a resolution that was shit 2 years ago that also costs more than everything but the bigger iphone? Fuck tim cook...

Had they managed at least 1080p in the 6 i would be interested but it seems the M8 is my phone for another year.

 

[Valnar]

I've owned both devices before. Have an iPhone 6 now (yesterday).

Android devices need better specs because the OS is not as efficient. I don't really care what flack I get from that statement because it's totally true. iOS is simply more elegant.

 

[Wiseguy2001]

^ I get efficiency, but I'm not sure 1GB of RAM for a phone in 2014 is a smart move, and could come back to byte users in the near future.

Also, 64bit and 1GB of memory WTF!?

 

[Aurelius]

You really need to form your own opinion. People get too fucking serious about phones. Play with both, IMO buy the apple and if you dont like it then it has a higher resale value, youll easily be able to ditch it for the S5.

That said Samsung makes the worst android phones on the market and i wouldnt wipe my ass with an s5 but people like them so take that for whats its worth.

Also keep in mind the iphone 6 is a joke and if you are serious about buying an iphone wait until the next gen. Its a 5s stretched out. I have wanted a bigger iphone for years and they finally release one with a resolution that was shit 2 years ago that also costs more than everything but the bigger iphone? Fuck tim cook...

Had they managed at least 1080p in the 6 i would be interested but it seems the M8 is my phone for another year.

Not sure if you entirely appreciate the irony of telling the OP to form his own opinion and then promptly bombarding him with a whole bunch of absolutist (and pretty inaccurate) statements.

Samsung doesn't make the worst phones in the world; the iPhone 6 is not just a stretched-out 5s (new design, better camera, higher resolution, faster chip, new motion tech...). I wouldn't give up a One M8 for the 6, though, unless you just couldn't stand the One's camera or Android interface.

 

[Drawmonster]

^ I get efficiency, but I'm not sure 1GB of RAM for a phone in 2014 is a smart move, and could come back to byte users in the near future.

Also, 64bit and 1GB of memory WTF!?

You contradict yourself. You, as well as most people, are used to the ridiculous memory requirements of Windows and Android based devices. Apple is far from stupid, and wouldn't release a device without enough memory. They get memory for so cheap that they could have added more for a few cents per phone, but they know their hardware and their OS.

We will see 2gb eventually, but not until it's actually needed. They don't throw memory at their phones like Android manufacturers do. Android and Windows will use all you can give them, but IOS does it better.

 

[Aurelius]

You contradict yourself. You, as well as most people, are used to the ridiculous memory requirements of Windows and Android based devices. Apple is far from stupid, and wouldn't release a device without enough memory. They get memory for so cheap that they could have added more for a few cents per phone, but they know their hardware and their OS.

We will see 2gb eventually, but not until it's actually needed. They don't throw memory at their phones like Android manufacturers do. Android and Windows will use all you can give them, but IOS does it better.

Eh, the answer is somewhere between the two extremes. The need for more memory isn't nearly as dire as certain forum members make it out to be, but it could certainly benefit from more.

Personally, I suspect that Apple *might* outfit the new iPads (at least the new Air or rumored 13-inch "pro" model) with 2GB if it's planning on implementing split-screen multitasking, but that pressure isn't really there with the iPhones... at least, not yet.

 

[Wiseguy2001]

You contradict yourself. You, as well as most people, are used to the ridiculous memory requirements of Windows and Android based devices. Apple is far from stupid, and wouldn't release a device without enough memory. They get memory for so cheap that they could have added more for a few cents per phone, but they know their hardware and their OS.

We will see 2gb eventually, but not until it's actually needed. They don't throw memory at their phones like Android manufacturers do. Android and Windows will use all you can give them, but IOS does it better.

Pssst: Moving to 64bit, uses more memory (as the name implies 64bit addresses), utterly pointless on a 1gb device and is much less efficient.

The only reason for this is non-technical people (marketing) making technical decisions. The ONLY reason to go to 64bit is to access more than 4gb of memory.

 

[Disposed]

I've owned both devices before. Have an iPhone 6 now (yesterday).

Android devices need better specs because the OS is not as efficient. I don't really care what flack I get from that statement because it's totally true. iOS is simply more elegant.

I'll agree with that. The thing is though, we now have hardware that makes both devices fast and smooth so that point is pretty moot.

 

[Drawmonster]

Pssst: Moving to 64bit, uses more memory (as the name implies 64bit addresses), utterly pointless on a 1gb device and is much less efficient.

The only reason for this is non-technical people (marketing) making technical decisions. The ONLY reason to go to 64bit is to access more than 4gb of memory.

If IOS is efficient enough to make the move and work perfectly, why wouldn't they do it? Now they have millions of devices running 64 bit IOS. If they can get IOS running perfectly on 1 gb or ram, don't you think it would run even better when they do decide upgrade the memory? Why wait to the last minute, double the ram, release 64bit IOS, and then deal with the waves of bugs and performance issues?

 

[Disposed]

Not sure if you entirely appreciate the irony of telling the OP to form his own opinion and then promptly bombarding him with a whole bunch of absolutist (and pretty inaccurate) statements.

Samsung doesn't make the worst phones in the world; the iPhone 6 is not just a stretched-out 5s (new design, better camera, higher resolution, faster chip, new motion tech...). I wouldn't give up a One M8 for the 6, though, unless you just couldn't stand the One's camera or Android interface.

I told him to try both abd form his own opinion then shared mine. Not a big deal.

I know there's more to the 6 i was obviously exaggerating. That said the biggest issue with the 6 is the resolution bump. They literally just bumped it enough to keep the same pixel density so it's not really an improvement.

As for Samsung, cheap plastic junk phones with the fat piggy touchwiz making great hardware feel years old.

 

[Cali3350]

Pssst: Moving to 64bit, uses more memory (as the name implies 64bit addresses), utterly pointless on a 1gb device and is much less efficient.

The only reason for this is non-technical people (marketing) making technical decisions. The ONLY reason to go to 64bit is to access more than 4gb of memory.

This isn't true. 64 bit registers will speed up a lot, especially encryption, with just a simple recompile.

There isn't a whole lot from the switch though. Day to day there's certainly nothing big from it.

 

[Cali3350]

I picked up my 6 yesterday and using it now. Coming from a HTC ONE M8. For me it's the apps and general stability. Take flipboard for instance. One of my favorite apps. It works on android, but it's slower, has a few UI issues, and seems to lock up a little time to time. It works, but just not as well. That seems to happen a lot on Android when compared to iOS in my experience.

 

[hmz]

iOS vs TouchWiz... Honestly, get the S5 if you are into TouchWiz.. That's probably the only reason to get the Samsung device.

 

[CHANG3D]

iOS vs TouchWiz... Honestly, get the S5 if you are into TouchWiz.. That's probably the only reason to get the Samsung device.

That's probably also the major reason to NEVER get a Samsung device...

 

[wizzi01]

You contradict yourself. You, as well as most people, are used to the ridiculous memory requirements of Windows and Android based devices. Apple is far from stupid, and wouldn't release a device without enough memory. They get memory for so cheap that they could have added more for a few cents per phone, but they know their hardware and their OS.

We will see 2gb eventually, but not until it's actually needed. They don't throw memory at their phones like Android manufacturers do. Android and Windows will use all you can give them, but IOS does it better.

Why does it seem like you are seriously butthurt from other people's opinions? I guess you do fit right in with the apple crowd. lol

 

[Spidey329]

iOS vs TouchWiz... Honestly, get the S5 if you are into TouchWiz.. That's probably the only reason to get the Samsung device.

You can flash a ROM without touchwiz.

 

[Kongar]

What's so terrible about touchwiz? I'm curious. Is it like, stuff is broken and requires a root to be useable? Or is it just not everyone's cup of tea and many prefer something different?

Just curious as I eye the note 4, and consider moving away from the apple ecosystem...

 

[wonderfield]

Pssst: Moving to 64bit, uses more memory (as the name implies 64bit addresses), utterly pointless on a 1gb device and is much less efficient.

It isn't, actually. The 64-bit ARMv8-A architecture doubles the number of registers, which relieves register pressure and enables less frequent stack access on jumps. Depending on the application, this performance win can be offset by less density of useful data in the cache line. That said, native 64-bit architectures enable native 64-bit computations, and these are used more frequently than you might think.

Add to this the greater security benefits of a 64-bit addressing and it's a pretty decent win.

The only reason for this is non-technical people (marketing) making technical decisions.

Apple's primary reason for the move to 64-bit was for marketing purposes. It was not their only reason. If iOS is ever to move beyond the confines of the consumer-level devices, it needs its applications to be ready for that move.

The need for more memory isn't nearly as dire as certain forum members make it out to be, but it could certainly benefit from more.

Agreed. It's neither much ado about nothing nor a world-ender.

 

[Trimlock]

Agreed. It's neither much ado about nothing nor a world-ender.

Which is why I stopped bring it up myself. The same posters are going to keep regurgitating the same words, still didn't stop Apple from selling 10million devices! Can you tell that a lot of people were waiting for a larger screen iPhone?

Just curious as I eye the note 4, and consider moving away from the apple ecosystem...

Nothing really, I use both iOS and TW, prior to that I've used many different OEM's skins and saw nothing really to bitch about. What you mostly see or hear about are complaints about competing products and over generalizations. TW is fine.

 

[CHANG3D]

What's so terrible about touchwiz? I'm curious. Is it like, stuff is broken and requires a root to be useable? Or is it just not everyone's cup of tea and many prefer something different?

Just curious as I eye the note 4, and consider moving away from the apple ecosystem...

let's see.

1. Terrible UI
2. Terrible laggy UI
3. Terribly laggy inconsistent UI
4. Terrible laggy inconsistent gimmicky UI with stupid ass tizen style bullshit ruining the menu that cannot be removed without rooting the phone and breaking your warranty, totally wasting a $700 device if you need service.

Why waste time rooting this phone when other comparable if not better out of box android phones are available?

The Note 4 probably wouldn't get root till next year and when Android L updates come, GS5 root will most likely be broken.

 

[Aurelius]

What's so terrible about touchwiz? I'm curious. Is it like, stuff is broken and requires a root to be useable? Or is it just not everyone's cup of tea and many prefer something different?

Just curious as I eye the note 4, and consider moving away from the apple ecosystem...

A few things:

1. It chews up a ton of resources. Part of why Samsung includes 2-3GB of RAM, cutting edge CPUs and microSD support is because TouchWiz frequently needs a lot of memory, CPU power and storage. It's not uncommon to see it chew up ~1.5GB of RAM, and only about half the storage on a 16GB phone is actually usable. Stuttering isn't as much of a problem as it has been, but it occasionally shows up where it's absent on similarly-specced competitors. On the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition, dropping TouchWiz not only reclaimed space, it extended battery life significantly (around 2 hours).

2. Useless gimmicks everywhere. Eye-tracking scrolling. Group Play (sharing the same tune across multiple phones). Camera modes that you will never, ever use. If you want the core reason why some people don't like Samsung, this is it: TouchWiz has a lot of features that look good in TV ads, but are too broken or specialized to actually matter.

3. It's cluttered. Even with the simplification in the GS5/Note 4 implementation of TouchWiz, trying to find the settings you're looking for can be a headache. You'll get used to it, but contrast this with the simplicity of... well, most other smartphones. LG made its settings harder to use by chasing after Samsung!

4. The "me too" aspects. Samsung has a bad habit of seeing a feature it likes from Apple or Google (or others, for that matter) and implementing its own half-hearted versions of them. S Voice and Wallet are poor attempts at cloning Siri and Passbook; Samsung Apps and (until Google had it shut down) Media Hub were really attempts to replace Google Play with something under Samsung's direct control, no matter how limited the selection was. It's like the company is afraid of being caught without the same features as everyone else, and is determined to have something comparable, no matter how well it works.

After all that, it's not to say that Samsung phones are unusable, or even bad. It's just that Samsung's "throw crap at the wall and see what sticks" approach drives a lot of people batty, and there are plenty of examples of better approaches. HTC Sense 6 is heavily customized, but it's still very fast, uncluttered and borderline fun to use. Motorola and Apple, meanwhile, are practically anti-Samsungs. They both have stripped down interfaces that are simple, fast and generally include only features that (usually) work properly and have real meaning. See Motorola's hands-free voice control, for instance, or Continuity in iOS 8. I'd love to have a Galaxy Note 4, but for the hardware -- it's more in spite of the software than because of it.

 

[Kongar]

Interesting, thank you. I was not aware Samsung devices were so difficult to root, nor that the interface was so lacking. When you compare hardware, they sound like dream devices against their competition. I'll need to go play with one...