Intel's 8th Generation Core Family - Coffee Lake (LGA 1151, 6C/12T)

Where do you expect Core i7-8700K's Turbo to land?

  • 3.8/3.9 GHz

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 4.0/4.1 GHz

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • 4.2/4.3 GHz

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • 4.4/4.5 GHz

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • 4.6/4.7 GHz

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
TaintedSquirrel said:
A storm is brewing.

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would be good value, it is just hard where I stay to get X99 boards, they knew exactly what they were doing and all distributors have EOL'd X99, all that is left is surplus stocks, mostly garbage X99 boards.

There are on the second hand market, however I don't trust anyone enough to blow money on something likely out of warranty or nearly out of warranty.
 
Shintai said:
Prices you already know.
https://www.bm.lv/en/intel-core-i7-8700k-hexa-core-370ghz-12mb-lga1151-14nm-box-bx80684i78700k

Another same price as always confirmation.
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Sounds good. 10€ cheaper than the 7800x. But whats up the cache. 8700k says 12mb l3 cache. 7800x says 6mb l2 cache, 8.25mb l3 cahce. Ok, a leak says 1.5mb l2 cache for the 8700k.

I wonder which will be fastest. I suppose the 8700k will overclock better due to a newer process. But the 7800k will be better in multithreaded workloads. But a lot more expensive platform. Would it be fair to say that the 7800x is more or less pointless from here on out?
 
Skyblue said:
Sounds good. 10€ cheaper than the 7800x. But whats up the cache. 8700k says 12mb l3 cache. 7800x says 6mb l2 cache, 8.25mb l3 cahce. Ok, a leak says 1.5mb l2 cache for the 8700k.

I wonder which will be fastest. I suppose the 8700k will overclock better due to a newer process. But the 7800k will be better in multithreaded workloads. But a lot more expensive platform. Would it be fair to say that the 7800x is more or less pointless from here on out?
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SKL-X uses a different core and uncore compared to SKL/KBL/CFL.

SKL-X 1MB L2 and 1.375MB L3 per core. (And got AVX512).

SKL/KBL/CFL 256KB L2 and 2MB L3 per core. L3 can be segmented tho into less.

8700K will be the gaming king without any competition. The ringbus for the uncore is simply faster plus the design is better for gaming compared to the much better scaling mesh layout. And inherit more bus components on the 7800X.

However for workstation tasks its an entirely different outcome. And if you want more I/O and memory the 7800X got its advantages there as well.
 
Not even sure how to describe this Z370 preorder board :)

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So that's the first Z370 board we've seen, eh.

edit: According to the internet, that's a photoshop. :p
 
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Currently have a 6700k and was thinking of going to MC today to pickup a 7700k. sounds like i should wait for the 8700k if gaming is the sole purpose for my rig. Keeping in mind a celron will keepup with my porn / banking / porn / email / "work" related tasks.

agree?
 
Orddie said:
Currently have a 6700k and was thinking of going to MC today to pickup a 7700k. sounds like i should wait for the 8700k if gaming is the sole purpose for my rig. Keeping in mind a celron will keepup with my porn / banking / porn / email / "work" related tasks.

agree?
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You'd be spending $300 to get an extra 300mhz overclock compared to your 6700k.

Wait for the hex cores to arrive.
 
AbRASiON said:
I'm getting the impression it's about $28 US more expensive for the 8700k
I might be wrong and sure, I can afford it but it is a near $30 hike.

IF that's true - I think I saw that data across 2 different sites unfortunately.
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Well I never pay msrp so.... even 5% off ebay giftcards stacked with ebay bucks makes up for it. Or staples 110% pricematch/pay with chase ink or giftcards from discover and ink recycle rewards

8600k giving 7700k a run for the money makes it worth it
 
Speedeu4ia said:
Well I never pay msrp so.... even 5% off ebay giftcards stacked with ebay bucks makes up for it. Or staples 110% pricematch/pay with chase ink or giftcards from discover and ink recycle rewards

8600k giving 7700k a run for the money makes it worth it
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I'm in a country where the cheapest price we pay on is still more than y'all.

We never EVER have like board and cpu combo deals or some ridiculous loss leader microcentre, fantastic $50 off deal.

If the MSRP of a CPU is $300 US you can be damned sure, we'll pay at LEAST $340 US for the CPU even at the cheapest possible deal
 
AbRASiON said:
I'm getting the impression it's about $28 US more expensive for the 8700k
I might be wrong and sure, I can afford it but it is a near $30 hike.

IF that's true - I think I saw that data across 2 different sites unfortunately.
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How did you come to that conclusion? Did you check what an old 7700K cost at the site?

At best it would be a 10$ hike, but we all know how preoder prices are and before the release.

The 365€ on that site includes a 21% VAT. That's 355-360$ without VAT.
 
Shintai said:
How did you come to that conclusion? Did you check what an old 7700K cost at the site?

At best it would be a 10$ hike, but we all know how preoder prices are and before the release.

The 365€ on that site includes a 21% VAT. That's 355-360$ without VAT.
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Oth. you do get 2 more cores. Thats ~50% increase in computationpower right there. Well worth $20, or the cost of 2 large beers as we say here. :)
 
Ive been trying to find a hard launch date and cant seem to find anything. Is this still mid Sept?
 
Gulvan said:
Ive been trying to find a hard launch date and cant seem to find anything. Is this still mid Sept?
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Never was that was just a leak from a sketchy retailer. Closest thing we have to an announced date from Intel is October.
 
King of Heroes said:
Anyone know if the Z370 motherboards be coming out at the same time? Or before?
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They don't have long, they best get on it- but if the rumours are true and it's almost completely and utterly identical, sadly, the board manufacturers can very, very easily switch over :mad:

Fuck I really would've liked that BT5 and Wifi built in too
 
AbRASiON said:
They don't have long, they best get on it- but if the rumours are true and it's almost completely and utterly identical, sadly, the board manufacturers can very, very easily switch over :mad:

Fuck I really would've liked that BT5 and Wifi built in too
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Yes, built-in BT & WiFi would be extra sweet...
 
Shintai said:
SKL-X uses a different core and uncore compared to SKL/KBL/CFL.

SKL-X 1MB L2 and 1.375MB L3 per core. (And got AVX512).

SKL/KBL/CFL 256KB L2 and 2MB L3 per core. L3 can be segmented tho into less.

8700K will be the gaming king without any competition. The ringbus for the uncore is simply faster plus the design is better for gaming compared to the much better scaling mesh layout. And inherit more bus components on the 7800X.

However for workstation tasks its an entirely different outcome. And if you want more I/O and memory the 7800X got its advantages there as well.
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I've been watching these 2 closely.
For a multipurpose machine, I'm really having a hard time deciding which would be better suited.
The 8700k is very exciting, but the 7800x just keeps calling to me...
 
Boil said:
Yes, built-in BT & WiFi would be extra sweet...
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Especially BT5, pretty rare of Intel to actually put the latest of the latest on a board.
(Example, the new CPUs for laptops? No LPDDR4) - the lack of USB 3.1 Gen 2 on the Z370, they just like to hold back before giving people the future proof (ish) stuff :/
 
Even if the H370 / Z370 motherboards are a rehash of the existing H270 / Z370 motherboards, going x370 & Coffee Lake i7 -8700 / I7-8700K is cheaper than going X299 / i7 Skylake-X, and since I would be going with an ITX motherboard, the lower PCI lane count is not an issue...

Just want to see x370 versions of either the ASUS x270 Strix ITX mobos or the ASRock x270 (NON-Fatal1ty) ITX mobos...

For that front-side M.2 NVMe SSD slot...!
 
Shintai said:
Distributors are already stocking up on them now ;)

Depending on the actual launch time and your location at worst it would be the day after.
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You've been pretty forthcoming with information so look, why don't you tell us, if you know

Will there be a regular Z390 chipset _FOR DESKTOP_ users?
Example
ROG Strix Z270I
ROG Strix Z370I
ROG Strix Z390I <---- == ????? (for example)


Cause if that's a wrap, for sure, I'll do my best to hold out till Feb 2018.
 
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