Intel Pulls “Racially Insensitive” Ad

[qkool]

On a side note, way back in highschool, I've observed that the minorities were usually the ones racist against the white guys. Go figure...

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Never noticed that, and I went to a highschool in Chicago. Whites were cool with blacks. It was basically if you were a "nerd" or "lame" whether black or white you got issues. The white football players and dudes on the basketball team were treated great by every race cause they were "cool".

It's not a white or black thing. I'd put money down that whatever white kid you saw get bullied by a black kid wasn't because he was white, but because he wasn't "cool" or becasue he was a "nerd" or some emo. The same way black kids who are percieved that way get bullied too.

Actually, they weren't just "nerds" or "emo" like you suggest. Their racist remarks were never directed at just one person. Their remarks were directed at the skin color of the person. It was *anyone* of the skin color. They said racist remarks to average joe who probably would've never gone to college or get a degree and to the over achievers who'll have gotten a double major in 4 years. These same people are the ones always thinking that the white man is trying to hold them down and that the government is out to get them.

You live in chicago? I live in the south. I experienced all the retarded crap with katrina first hand.

I remember there was a story about some school giving out an award for african americans. A South African student won the award, but the school denied him of the award because complaints from people that he had *white* skin. It's retarded that he was judged by his skin color.

I say I'm asian to give an idea of my descent, but I'm first and foremost an American. I'm a naturally born American citizen.

 

[ir0nw0lf]

I'm not seeing anything really racist or discriminatory or insensitive at all, it's just a stupid ad to me. Can't something be stupid anymore without being sexist or racial??

 

[GJSNeptune]

Can't something be stupid anymore without being sexist or racial??

Not when both require stupidity.

 

[Oeleo]

Reminds me of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

It's of course ok for blacks to demean blacks

Yes it is ok for a group to poke fun at itself! Duh!

Here is a simple analogy: I may talk shit about my family all day long, but if some stranger has something to say about my mother/sister/etc then they are going to get it.

It is the same way with race/sports teams/schools/etc. If you say something that can be viewed as demeaning to my group and you are not a member, then you will get flamed. What's so hard to understand about that?

 

[LeTUOtter]

Yes it is ok for a group to poke fun at itself! Duh!

Here is a simple analogy: I may talk shit about my family all day long, but if some stranger has something to say about my mother/sister/etc then they are going to get it.

It is the same way with race/sports teams/schools/etc. If you say something that can be viewed as demeaning to my group and you are not a member, then you will get flamed. What's so hard to understand about that?

Just because something frequently happens doesn't make it not stupid. For a group (yes, I'm generalizing, because I don't have time to call out every person I'm thinking of. If it doesn't apply to you, just glaze over it) who constantly bitches about "equal rights" (HEAVY on the quotes), black minority leaders sure don't seem to complain about the "in house" stuff much. I was so glad when Sharpton called on blacks to stop using the N word. If they can, then why can't everyone? It's not "yours" and you didn't "take it back". The only thing minority leaders are accomplishing by holding on to the shreds of race issues is holding everyone back.

 

[Catweazle]

Well the thing that struck me was that they all had their heads down and were all facing the guy in the center (and thus facing opposite directions). It's apparent that it's trying to show sprinters but surely someone should have noticed that there's a little too much "racism fodder" in there.

While I agree that this "racially insensitive" political correctness is usually quite tiresome, that doesn't mean it doesn't actually exist.

About the only sensible comment I've seen in the thread, to be honest. The extent (and sometimes the vehemence) of comments posted are surprising to say the least. A person doesn't need to "think" in terms of racial conflict to see that image as odd. The blokes in athletic outfits look completely out of place in the office setting. the bloke in the middle of them doesn't appear as in any way 'connected' to them. There's nothing whatsoever about the image which suggests anything to do with computing 'power'. all you're really left with is six black blokes bent over facing a white bloke who is standing in the middle of the group and appearing smugly aloof.

It's dumb. It's dumb in a way which leaves you thinking "What the fuck did they do that for?" It's dumb in a manner which should really leave nobody surprised that those people likely to object to racially offensive material will do so in response to this particular image.

There's no need whatsoever to 'judge' the people who object, or decry their objection. The image is just downright stupid, and it INVITES those objections!


Buggered if I can understand why you lot don't see that right up front. The thing deserves the objection it's received purely because it so very much ASKS for it!

 

[mcboot]

Geez folks!

If purchase cup of coffee and you for whatever reason don't like it's you resposability to complain or not!!! But don't knock someone for trying to get what he are she wants!!!!


All this focus on the African American ie Black sprinters is not the only thing in question in thi add, what are you telling me that there is not black IT guys, no white sprinters.

Kostas Kenteris and Katerina Thanou both Europeans white sprinters. Kenteris won the gold medal in the 200-meter dash four in Sydney, Thanou, won the silver medal in the 100 in Sydney.

To me it's the issue is the message, if communication is important to a corporation you want the message to be clear and not misunderstood by your audience. It does not matter to the reason for pulling the add if Intel feels it could be misunderstood they would pull or not their favor, they would pull it.

Do you expect Intel to publish an add that could be interpreted as Intel cpu being slow? No they would pull it!!!

It's not about PC, it's abou point of you. You may not have the same point of view as the guy next door black, yellow or white; but do not expect them to alway agree with yours. The article did not say a white guy created the add!!!!! And Bashing African Americans, Asian, Europeans or any ethnicity should not be something acceoatable at HARDOCP e!!!!

 

[GoldenTiger]

I am African American, but I'm whiter than sour cream.


Regarding the topic: I don't see this as racism or any racial sensitive issue. However, I am growing tired of the complaints while other things goes un-noticed (such as Snoop Dogg callining white people crackers on some tv prank, nothing is ever said about that), or P Diddy using only white female dancers in his concerts wearing a black dresses while he wears a white suit.... nothing was said for that either. Or the fact that you get a million tv channels for Latinos, Blacks, Mideastern, etc... but make one for whites and you get a riot and people are fired.

But yet people moan and complain about some commercial.


It's time people drop looking for racial things, because IMO, if you look for it, you are part of the problem.


Anyways, this is my two cents.

We need more people like you in this world.

 

[peepingdan]

Geez folks!

If purchase cup of coffee and you for whatever reason don't like it's you resposability to complain or not!!! But don't knock someone for trying to get what he are she wants!!!!


All this focus on the African American ie Black sprinters is not the only thing in question in thi add, what are you telling me that there is not black IT guys, no white sprinters.

Kostas Kenteris and Katerina Thanou both Europeans white sprinters. Kenteris won the gold medal in the 200-meter dash four in Sydney, Thanou, won the silver medal in the 100 in Sydney.

To me it's the issue is the message, if communication is important to a corporation you want the message to be clear and not misunderstood by your audience. It does not matter to the reason for pulling the add if Intel feels it could be misunderstood they would pull or not their favor, they would pull it.

Do you expect Intel to publish an add that could be interpreted as Intel cpu being slow? No they would pull it!!!

It's not about PC, it's abou point of you. You may not have the same point of view as the guy next door black, yellow or white; but do not expect them to alway agree with yours. The article did not say a white guy created the add!!!!! And Bashing African Americans, Asian, Europeans or any ethnicity should not be something acceoatable at HARDOCP e!!!!

Exactly what I said, but I think you said it better. If the ad has a chance of being misinterpreted, they'll pull it. Whether it's racism or just obfuscation.

 

[ecktt]

I ain't afro America or white.
I guess i would have to be to get pissed @ the ad.
Seems to me though that people that harp over these things are more racist than anything else.

 

[Oeleo]

We need more people like you in this world.

You mean sellouts? I'm sure you would love that...

 

[Renegade_Azzy]

Sounds like someone is racially oversensitive.

Someone needs to get a real job.

 

[Paperstar]

Racially Oversensitive, quoted for truth.

 

[Team Obi Juan]

The world is full of pussies now huh...?

 

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

Congratulations! You've provided an example of ACTUAL racism.

BULL, FUCKING, SHIT.

If this advertisement had a bunch of korean women working festidiously in front of sewing machines, or mexican's hanging drywall, or indians (I mean from india, not native americans) wearing doctors gown, or japanese people with camera's there wouldn't have been a GODDAMNED WORD said about this advertisement.

It's ONLY black people that are stirring up race-hate claims.
Oh, and by the way..

Blacks kill more blacks EVERY YEAR in this country than white people did during the ENTIRE SPAN of slavery in this country

For every black person who was ever a slave, there are TWENTY white people who were.

-white- slavery was FAR more rampant (IN AFRICA, BY THE WAY) than slavery EVER was here.

Get your facts straight.

-WHITE- slavery STILL exists today.

-BLACK- slavery is all but a memory. It would ONLY be a memory, but, the blacks won't shut the fuck up.

My best friend all through high-school was a black "man". His name was robert hill. He was not born in the united states. He was born in jamaica. He moved here with his parents (who were also jamaican) and I've heard them say, on MORE than one occasion "I don't understand what is wrong with these N***** in this country"

I am not trying to demean the mature, caring, intelligent people of this nation who just happen to be dark skinned. Those are not the people who are causing these problems. It's the "n****" (as my friend called them, remember, he was black, so.. guess what, it's ok to quote him, but not for me to say it.. right? - Yeah..double edge sword there, much?) who would rather blame "whitey" for the fact that "the man is keeping them down" then actually DO something about it.

And when someone who is dark(er) skinned happens to actually do something about it, they get insulted by the "black community" .. like barack, tiger, vanessa williams, etc.. by being called "oreos" or "not black enough"

If I told a friend of mine of mixed heritage that he wasn't "white enough" he'd kick my ass.


Am I saying that blacks were not persecuted? No, absolutely not.
Am I saying there is no such thing as racism? No.

What I am saying is that the racism that exists today ONLY exists because BLACKS keep perpetrating the things that people who would otherwise NOT be racist have issues with.

 

[Catweazle]

BULL, FUCKING, SHIT.

If this advertisement had a bunch of korean women working festidiously in front of sewing machines, or mexican's hanging drywall, or indians (I mean from india, not native americans) wearing doctors gown, or japanese people with camera's there wouldn't have been a GODDAMNED WORD said about this advertisement.

It's ONLY black people that are stirring up race-hate claims.
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rest of intolerant rant

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bullshit back at ya!

I'm buggered if i know what "hanging drywall" is, so I can't comment on that one. But there are actually plenty of Korean women who work in clothing factories, plenty of Indian men who work in the medical profession, and plenty of Japanese tourists with cameras. Using images of them to promote a microprocessor product range may not be particularly relevent, but it would not be an irrelevence of a potentially racist nature, because it would be a portrayal of something regularly encountered. Stereotypical, maybe, but not racially derogatory as such.

HOWEVER! Explain to me in what context you ever see a group of male, balck athletes crouched down between desks in an office, in 'starting' position and facing/surrounding some white bloke. Can't, can you? The image and pose is necessarily symbolic. And the people putting it together haven't been particularly careful to ensure that the synbolism suggests what they imagined it would.

It's an artificially created image too. There's one athlete, with his image reproduced numerous times. I'd bet ny left nut he wasn't photographed crouched down between any of those desks facing the white bloke either. I'd almost bet BOTH nuts that a photgrapher wouldn't possibly get SIX blokes to crouch down in that pose for a photo. I won't though. Morons come in all colours, after all.

I know damned well that it'd be absolutely impossible to get six black blokes from my mob to pose like that. (My mob is Indigenous Australian, not African-American by the way.) Any photographer asked half a dozen of my mob to pose for that shot and he'd be met with a "You gotta be fucken' kidding!"


Stirring up race-hate claims? Seems to me that the 'passion' was contained in your own words, and they were pretty damned negative!



This topic is being used, by many participants, as an excuse for airing bigotries. That's the truth however carefully people are trying to hide it, or have deluded themselves that they are doing differently.


I've aired my view about the advertisment itself, and I'll repeat. The ad is a stupid and ill-advised imagem which DOES carry racially derogatory impications. doesn't matter if it was intended to or not. That's what it does!

 

[GoldenTiger]

You mean sellouts? I'm sure you would love that...

Sellouts? To what? You have to have something you're coming from to sell out from. Only a racist would see it as "selling out" to view races equally without prejudice. You obviously are one.

 

[BoogerBomb]

I like how everything everybody says in the thread is seen as racist. Your comments Goldentiger tell me you too are a racist.

 

[Apallohadas]

BULL, FUCKING, SHIT.

No, he's right. You're an idiot and a quite possibly the most offensive of the ignorant comments thrown about in this thread and the RE5 thread. Grats I guess.

If this advertisement had a bunch of korean women working festidiously in front of sewing machines, or mexican's hanging drywall, or indians (I mean from india, not native americans) wearing doctors gown, or japanese people with camera's there wouldn't have been a GODDAMNED WORD said about this advertisement.

And there you are wrong. Each of those groups have organizations that watch dog for them as well. While I don't find the ad horribly offensive, it was poorly designed. 2 minutes of thought would have saved the ad.

It's ONLY black people that are stirring up race-hate claims.

Are you sure about that? Let me introduce you to google. It's a search engine, where if you stop pulling up porn for a few minutes, you can find all sorts of things.

http://www.aaja.org/news/mediawatch/2006_12_08_01/
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_10_16/ai_55369274
http://www.aifdemocracy.org/news.php?id=2988

That's an asian, greek, and Islamic group each in the papers regarding direct or indirect racism, slander, and in the case of the Greek example, just plain stupidity.

But in your book, that Greek group MUST BE BLACK because ONLY BLACK PEOPLE STIR UP RACE CLAIMS.

Did I get that right?

Oh, and by the way..

Blacks kill more blacks EVERY YEAR in this country than white people did during the ENTIRE SPAN of slavery in this country

Go school and finish your damn GED. You are a complete idiot to even make this statement in a public forum.

There's no accurate tally of the total slaves that died in this nation's history. Many died even once slavery was ended, to the hands of hate filled white people. You're welcome to post proof however.

For every black person who was ever a slave, there are TWENTY white people who were.

Proof thanks. I'm sure the class would like to see reputable links that don't start with KKK in them.

The reality is that you seem to know very little of the world around you. Unless you're branching out into europe, old viking raiding parties, and clear throughout the history of the world, whereas we're clearly talking about america and african americans, I'd LOVE for you to prove your outrageous claim that for every ONE black person that was a slave, there were TWENTY WHITE PEOPLE that were.

Off the top of my head you're going to need to prove some 60 million plus in the US alone, let alone the rest of the world.

-white- slavery was FAR more rampant (IN AFRICA, BY THE WAY) than slavery EVER was here.

Numbers and links please.

Get your facts straight.

-WHITE- slavery STILL exists today.

I'm still waiting to see your facts.

There are some 27 million people enslaved today.

http://www.iabolish.org/modern_slavery101/

Worldwide. Do note that among that 27 million they aren't all white, so that's not helping you there.

-BLACK- slavery is all but a memory. It would ONLY be a memory, but, the blacks won't shut the fuck up.

Oh really? Are you insane?

It's a memory if you stick your head in the sand and knock out a few hundred years of American History. Ignorant people refuse to learn from history, but different strokes eh?

My best friend all through high-school was a black "man".

You weren't that close to him I'm guessing. There's alot of people that say "I have a black friend!" Hint: sitting in the same building as a black guy doesn't make you his friend, nor does it make you an expert on "being black."

His name was robert hill. He was not born in the united states. He was born in jamaica. He moved here with his parents (who were also jamaican) and I've heard them say, on MORE than one occasion "I don't understand what is wrong with these N***** in this country"

So if I'm understanding this "friend" of your's, he came to *you* to get advice on n***** in america? Am I following your anecdote correctly? He was obviously appealing to your expertise in understanding black mindset.

I am not trying to demean the mature, caring, intelligent people of this nation who just happen to be dark skinned.

On the contrary, you are completely insulting to everyone, even white people who have a better grasp of the importance of remembering this nation's history, for better or worse.

Those are not the people who are causing these problems. It's the "n****" (as my friend called them, remember, he was black

He was Jamaican and made it a point to remind you that he was not from here. Don't continue to confuse the two. African American and Jamaican are not the same thing. Both black yes, but both tend to have strong separate community identities. But you knew that being the 'expert.'

, so.. guess what, it's ok to quote him, but not for me to say it.. right? - Yeah..double edge sword there, much?) who would rather blame "whitey" for the fact that "the man is keeping them down" then actually DO something about it.

You have no idea how stupid that sounded. Type it out, read it, then delete next time.

And when someone who is dark(er) skinned happens to actually do something about it, they get insulted by the "black community" .. like barack, tiger, vanessa williams, etc.. by being called "oreos" or "not black enough"

GOD are you retarded? All three that you mentioned are well respected and liked across racial boundaries. Tiger not as much because in an interview he intentionally separated himself from being EITHER asian or african american.

What's this "do something about it" bullshit? You have alot of racial rage in you for someone who's a 'black expert.'

If I told a friend of mine of mixed heritage that he wasn't "white enough" he'd kick my ass.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, unless it's more testimonial "I know a black guy."

Am I saying that blacks were not persecuted? No, absolutely not.
Am I saying there is no such thing as racism? No.

You're severely downplaying the reality of history with your bullshit statistics and made up anecdotal evidence that you know more than black people. But go on.

What I am saying is that the racism that exists today ONLY exists because BLACKS keep perpetrating the things that people who would otherwise NOT be racist have issues with.

First, there is an exceptionally small subset of the african american population that PROFITS from such behavior and activity. You play right into their hands and pockets by coming off as a racist white guy trying to cover up history, hatred, and ignorance.

Second, in intelligent conversation, PEOPLE are PEOPLE. Notice how I haven't removed the humanity of a population by calling them WHITES or AZNS or BLACKS. There are black PEOPLE, white PEOPLE, and asian PEOPLE.

This forum really is great in that MOST of the time there can be conversations without the flavoring based on anyone's race, creed, or religion. But when a thread like this and the RE5 thread pop up, I'm reminded that there are few minorities that speak in forums such as this, and it's easy for a poke at a stupid group of knee jerking people to become full fledged flaming at black people in general.

 

[GJSNeptune]

Remember there are real people in the picture. The runners obviously didn't have any problem with the concept.

Everything has bias. You can read into something as much as you'd like and find whatever you want or need if you stare at it long enough. One person or group is convinced. We can leave it at that, or we can turn into monkeys and fling shit at each other for no other reason than to feel superior on our soapboxes.

 

[Catweazle]

The bad:
All the runners are black.
They are all exactly the same. (They are supposed to be though to fit with Intel's other multi-core ads.)

Remember there are real people in the picture. The runners obviously didn't have any problem with the concept.

mentok got it right. There are only two people in the image. The 'scene' is an artificially constructed one.

 

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

So if I'm understanding this "friend" of your's, he came to *you* to get advice on n***** in america? Am I following your anecdote correctly? He was obviously appealing to your expertise in understanding black mindset.

No. Best friend in high school. Not just some random guy I knew. 4 years, together, side by side, he had my back, I had his. At his house twice a week, him at mine just as often. Comment wasn't asking my expertise, it was reaction to reading the newspaper, seeing TV, or just interacting with the public. I said, this was multiple times. It wasn't a question posed to me, it was a rhetorical question.

I have a degree, or 3, btw, so your comment about "Go back and get my GED" is just stupid.

You also go on to say "I must not know about the world" then question whether or not my information is coming from local numbers, or worldwide numbers. You flagellate on this repeatedly. As for my comment about "it would be a memory", it would be obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature in Alaska, that I was referring to the national problem, not the global problem, in that instance. It would also be apparent to all but the slowest of the slow (i.e. your family) that when I was talking about "Throughout history" numbers, I wasn't talking about the numbers for just this country. I was talking globally, throughout time written and unwritten. Your iabolish site doesn't mention how many of those 27 million are NON black..

I was not saying there are no black slaves in the WORLD, I was saying there are no black slaves IN THE USA. Therefore, since there are NONE in the USA (at least, none that are known of..) that the BLACKS should drop it.

Barack Obama, Tiger, and Vanessa Williams are, for the most part, respected by WHITES.

Blacks against Obama, dissing him for "not being black enough"

Blacks hating tiger woods for interracial dating, etc..

I can't find the vanessa williams threats against her by BLACKs, on the references to the white death threats.

So, I guess I'm just making this shit up, since I can't find that story now.


Your link to iAbolish uses sensationalism.. of COURSE they are going to show a black person as their example of a slave. It's not as sensational if it's a bunch of white people.

 

[LeTUOtter]

Can't you just FEEL the vitriol dripping off the screen? Black, white, what the f*** ever. Just imagine if we all just... let it go. Nah, it's way more fun to bitch. Or at least, it's a good show.

 

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

27 Million slaves, right?

DEBT BONDAGE, or bonded labor, is the most widely practiced form of slavery around the world. In Southeast Asia, where it is most prevalent, debt bondage claims an estimated 15 to 20 million victims

I assume these south-east asians are blacks, right? Oh, they aren't? They are whites? Damn, that sucks for your argument.

The sex slavery trade thrives in Central and Eastern Europe and in North America. An estimated two million women and children are sold into sex slavery around the world every year.

So, those are probably mostly white people, right? 2 million of them? Central and eastern europe, and north america? Mostly white, right? 13% black population in USA (and far far less in europe), so lets say ~10% of the 2 million sex SLAVES are black.. 1.8 million white slaves, 200,000 black slaves..

Chattel slavery is typically racially-based; in the North African country of Mauritania, for example, black Africans serve the lighter-skinned Arab-Berber communities. Though slavery was legally abolished there in 1980, today 90,000 slaves continue to serve the Muslim Berber ruling class.

Lets assume ALL 90,000 of these slaves are black.. I'll let you have that number..even though mauritania isn't the USA (which was what I was talking about) So, we're at 290,000 black slaves, and 26.8 million non black ones.. with me so far?


26,800,000 / 290,000 = 92 (non blacks) per 1 black slave.

Wow.. using your OWN website (and.. guess what, I was being generous, by letting you have all 90,000 as blacks) to prove you wrong.

Hell.
1.8 million vs 200,000 is 9:1 ratio.

I think that would show, that there are a LOT MORE PEOPLE who were slaves who WEREN'T BLACK.

I can use a sensational image, too, btw.

 

[Catweazle]

Barack Obama, Tiger, and Vanessa Williams are, for the most part, respected by WHITES.

Blacks against Obama, dissing him for "not being black enough"

Blacks hating tiger woods for interracial dating, etc..

I can't find the vanessa williams threats against her by BLACKs, on the references to the white death threats.

So, I guess I'm just making this shit up..

Nope. Merely misunderstanding/misrepresenting it.

The link to the article about Obama is not an instance of 'blacks' (plural) 'dissing' Obama. It's a link to an article by a particfular commentator, who happens to be African-american, and who is merely pointing out that Obama's life-experiences do not 'mirror' those of the descendeants of plantation slaves. All the other comment on that page (as far down as I could stomach reading the tripe anyways) was comment made by a progression of obvious non-African-american bigots!

The article about Woods does NOT highlight hatreds over inter-racial dating. The thrust of the article is the contention that Woods disdains association with people from his own ethnic background. Again, I never read the entirety of the comments. I read through quite a few pages, though, and what I saw was a couple of people expressing intolerance, and the bulk of comments expressing objection to that intolerance.

 

[Apallohadas]

No. Best friend in high school. Not just some random guy I knew. 4 years, together, side by side, he had my back, I had his. At his house twice a week, him at mine just as often. Comment wasn't asking my expertise, it was reaction to reading the newspaper, seeing TV, or just interacting with the public. I said, this was multiple times. It wasn't a question posed to me, it was a rhetorical question.

You managed to find an equally ignorant kindred idiot.

I have a degree, or 3, btw, so your comment about "Go back and get my GED" is just stupid.

Somehow I doubt your posts are being posed with the experience of having 3 degrees.

That is unless you're just being ignorant for the sake of such.

You also go on to say "I must not know about the world" then question whether or not my information is coming from local numbers, or worldwide numbers. You flagellate on this repeatedly. As for my comment about "it would be a memory", it would be obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature in Alaska, that I was referring to the national problem, not the global problem, in that instance. It would also be apparent to all but the slowest of the slow (i.e. your family)

Oh a 'yer mom' joke! Learned that while getting your 3rd degree hm?

that when I was talking about "Throughout history" numbers, I wasn't talking about the numbers for just this country.

So where's the proof? Yet to see it other than your anecdotal evidence of a jamaican appealing to your expertise.

I was talking globally, throughout time written and unwritten.

Translation: You were making shit up as you went along. Lies work as well as fact?

Your iabolish site doesn't mention how many of those 27 million are NON black..

I gave links at least. You've given a link to a 2006 article from the NY Daily news (laughed at in NY) and a CACHED version of someone's AOL page?

I was not saying there are no black slaves in the WORLD, I was saying there are no black slaves IN THE USA.

What you were saying was clear enough. "History never happened." Yet somehow there is only white slavery in the world. Canada apparently.

Therefore, since there are NONE in the USA (at least, none that are known of..) that the BLACKS should drop it.

... do you read what you post? I can't even sarcastically point out how STUPID you sound here.

Barack Obama, Tiger, and Vanessa Williams are, for the most part, respected by WHITES.

Blacks against Obama, dissing him for "not being black enough"

Blacks hating tiger woods for interracial dating, etc..

Well shucks! A cached aol page and an old editorial from 2006. Yup! All of your "BLACKS" must hate them. That explains their amazing level of popularity from sporting endorsements, to movies, to GALLUP polls.

I can't find the vanessa williams threats against her by BLACKs, on the references to the white death threats.

So, I guess I'm just making this shit up, since I can't find that story now.

Yeah, I think you're making most of your stance up. We agree on this at least.

Your link to iAbolish uses sensationalism.. of COURSE they are going to show a black person as their example of a slave. It's not as sensational if it's a bunch of white people.

.... Not sure what to tell you. Open a book? Check out wikipedia and read up on slavery there. You're sadly uninformed.

In your next post you babble on about sex slaves (because you can't find any evidence to your original claims) and still I've yet to see proof of this phrase you've made:

"For every black person who was ever a slave, there are TWENTY white people who were.

-white- slavery was FAR more rampant (IN AFRICA, BY THE WAY) than slavery EVER was here."

I think I still see your problem. You see black, your brain shuts off. For the millionth time, AFRICAN AMERICAN DOES NOT EQUAL JAMAICAN NOR AFRICAN. I'm told that caps locks helps people with triple degrees to read.

So which are you focusing on? Slavery for white people from the dawn of time vs black slavery for 200 years in north america? Sounds like a even comparison to your 'room temperature' IQ?

Oh, let me fill you in on something about Room Temperature btw, room temperature is an 'ideal temperature' being 70 degrees for the typical room and something around 64 for a bedroom. So room temperature in Alaska is the same as room temperature in your trailer park.

 

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Were they Kenyans?

Ok THAT is a funny video.

 

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And we will call this to an end.....Thanks for playing, come agin.