I'm torn... PS3 or 360?

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Creepingdeath1977 said:
You might want to check your facts about that one again, the PS3 is one of the best upscalers on the market, the 360 is in fact one of the worst. Just browse some Audio/video sites and I'll bet you my soul 90% will vote for PS3 for upscaling.
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No need to "check facts". Been there, done that. I live on the audio forums, and to top it off, I have both consoles...so I have witnessed it first hand. :D Cheers.

jonneymendoza said:
360 DOESNT have a web browser. where did you get that from, that you can surf the net on a 360.
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I have been doing that for years now, as have millions of others, lol. You might want to check your facts before you spew out such rubbish.

People just install MCE browser addon (free) to the Windows MCE PCs. I have been browsing the web on my Xbox 360 daily, and it works great.

Here is video proof of it in action:
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So, how do you like your crow?

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i dont understand? nore do u understand what i mean. the 360 relies more on a pc then on a ps3. 360 DOESNT have a inbuilt web browser in its dashboard while the ps3 has.
 
jonneymendoza said:
i dont understand? nore do u understand what i mean. the 360 relies more on a pc then on a ps3. 360 DOESNT have a inbuilt web browser in its dashboard while the ps3 has.
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Glad you changed your tune. Typical. I understand your type. You probably should do some research.

PS3 relies on a PC just as much. We don't get your point.
 
They both rely on a PC for certain functions, and there is nothing wrong with that. I find it hard to believe there are many people that have a 360/PS3 and have no computer. The argument about which one uses it "more" is stupid.
 
The Hedon said:
Glad you changed your tune. Typical. I understand your type. You probably should do some research.

PS3 relies on a PC just as much. We don't get your point.
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Why dont you do us all a favour and put your mind and our minds at rest by listing all that can be done on a ps3 or a 360 out of the box with just the aid of an internet connection and without the aid of a pc/mediacenter/media center extender, list em seing as your the expert around here!
 
Rash said:
Why dont you do us all a favour and put your mind and our minds at rest by listing all that can be done on a ps3 or a 360 out of the box with just the aid of an internet connection and without the aid of a pc/mediacenter/media center extender, list em seing as your the expert around here!
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Those are dumb criteria. Both consoles can do lots of things not just out of the box. I consider one of the ps3's biggest advantages to be the upgradeable HD, but it doesn't come with one out of the box. You can also install linux on it, again not out of the box. Enthusiasts on this forum don't need hand holding "it can only do this out of the box with no addons" criteria.

I want to hear the cool things people are doing with both consoles. Out of the box features can be for mommy and joe moron who doesn't know how to do anything beyond turn their console on.
 
Technoob said:
Those are dumb criteria. Both consoles can do lots of things not just out of the box. I consider one of the ps3's biggest advantages to be the upgradeable HD, but it doesn't come with one out of the box. You can also install linux on it, again not out of the box. Enthusiasts on this forum don't need hand holding "it can only do this out of the box with no addons" criteria.

I want to hear the cool things people are doing with both consoles. Out of the box features can be for mommy and joe moron who doesn't know how to do anything beyond turn their console on.
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Oh jesus!! What i was trying to say was what can both consoles do without the aid of a pc or media center extender, alot of people will be interested in this, and what your trying to say is that this thread should be called "im torn.... PS3 or 360 for Enthusiasts on this forum?"
 
The Hedon said:
No need to "check facts". Been there, done that. I live on the audio forums, and to top it off, I have both consoles...so I have witnessed it first hand. :D Cheers.



I have been doing that for years now, as have millions of others, lol. You might want to check your facts before you spew out such rubbish.
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Man you must be a real dumbass, since you browse audio/vidio forums please post me some links where they say 360 has the better upscaling.

Or maybe you should stop watching movies on your mommie's 13inch TV:D

Read this from Extremetech

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2088534,00.asp

Like I said before considered to be one of the worst.

But you browse av forums all the time so you should already know this right?:rolleyes:
 
Rash said:
Why dont you do us all a favour and put your mind and our minds at rest by listing all that can be done on a ps3 or a 360 out of the box with just the aid of an internet connection and without the aid of a pc/mediacenter/media center extender, list em seing as your the expert around here!
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Why don't you do US all a favor and go ahead and assemble that little ol list yourself. I doubt any of us have time to do that FOR YOU. I know I don't.
 
Creepingdeath1977 said:
Man you must be a real dumbass, :rolleyes:
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And you must be a cocksucker, so what is your point.

Calling names won't get you anywhere, see? So much for a hard mature debate. You lost all credibility.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all

I really don’t expect much when I start doing Benchmark tests on a video game system. DVD playback is probably the least of the designers' worries, and just basic playback performance is more than enough for their agenda. But, I think that designers who are touting their product as a media console and not just a video gaming machine have more of an obligation to ensure at least a decent level of performance in all areas of media playback, including video and audio.
Recently, I tested Microsoft’s new venture into the world of console gaming, the Xbox 360. The 360 performed very well in our DVD benchmark and positioned itself as the only game machine I’ve tested to date that I would probably recommend as a DVD player. The 360 launched a year before its competition, the Sony PlayStation 3 (PS3) and Nintendo Wii, so I was wondering how much Sony and Nintendo would put into their next generation consoles to combat the 360’s strong points. Nintendo opted out of the media console market and launched a system strictly designed for gaming and interactivity with the Wii, and it does not include DVD playback, but Sony went all out, and not only included DVD playback, but also support for Blu-ray (BD), one of the high definition disc formats.
For this Benchmark, I am going to stick with standard DVD playback like I’ve done with previous Blu-ray players. I will be following the Benchmark with a full review of the PS3, including its performance as a Blu-ray player and video game console.
Months before the PS3 ever released, I would have guessed that it would be an average DVD player and below average Blu-ray player. The PS2 was anything but impressive as a DVD player, and despite the rather high price point of the PS3 as a game console, it is only about half the price of the competing stand alone Blu-ray players. This would obviously lead me to believe that Sony designed this as a video game console first, with the BD and DVD playback section being passable at best, and enough to maybe lure some tech savvy owners into stand alone BD players at some point. Evidently, this is not the case.
The PS3 represents one of the best BD players I’ve used to date. It is fast, the image quality is excellent, and it supports more of the BD functions and features than just about any other player. The fact that it does this for nearly half the price of the other BD players out there is almost embarrassing, and rather disappointing when you think about it. As a standard DVD player, however, the PS3 may represent one of the worst progressive scan players I have ever tested. Surprising, considering its BD performance.
The PS3 is the only game console to feature an HDMI output to date. Given this feature, I was fully expecting to see support for upconversion of standard DVD to high definition resolutions like most HDMI-based DVD players. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen here. The PS3 only outputs 480p for DVD playback. Personally I would have rather have seen 480i as the only DVD output resolution given how bad this player does with its de-interlacing.
The PS3 has no film-based de-interlacing support. It is essentially locked in video mode the entire time, so as the cadence changes, resolution is compromised. This is pretty much unforgivable at this stage in the game and embarrassing compared to every other DVD player I’ve tested from Sony. Why this is the case I have no idea, especially since DVD is the only thing the PS3 is de-interlacing (the PS3 does not de-interlace 1080i to 1080p for BD content, it only outputs what the disc is encoded).
Core video performance was about average. The PS3 allows you to select from two separate color spaces via HDMI: RGB and YCbCr. Neither of them passes below black information, so head and toe room are clipped. There is also some minor pixel cropping with DVD playback (BD playback had no pixel cropping).
On the plus side, the PS3 does not have any issues with CUE or Y/C delay when viewing DVDs via HDMI. I’ve seen reports that it does have CUE issues with Blu-ray playback using 4:2:0 material.
The PS3 passed all of our tests that relate to video-based material, which was expected since this player is essentially in a forced video mode. This includes 2-2 material. I could not get it to lock onto a single 3-2 based pattern, regardless of how much time I gave the player to do it.
From a usability standpoint, the PS3 does quite well. The transport is fast, and I really love all of the information available when you press display (bitrates, video codec, etc.) I highly recommend picking up the PS3 remote if you plan on using the console for movie viewing, because it alleviates a lot of the frustration that can come with using the controller as a remote. The only drawback is that the remote is Bluetooth-based, so you cannot program your HT remote to mimic it. My only other gripe is that the player does not start-up a disc when it is inserted. You have to navigate to the video selection in the main PS3 menu screen and select it.
Conclusions
It is a shame that Sony put so much work into the PlayStation 3 in some areas but not in DVD playback. The lack of a film mode for de-interlacing and no support for upscaling are rare in progressive scan DVD players these days. While I would still recommend it as a Blu-ray player, anyone considering adding the PS3 to their home theater rack should probably keep their standard DVD player as well.​
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can u add me to your psn hedon, you seem a real character, id: FKA
 
Rash said:
can u add me to your psn hedon, you seem a real character, id: FKA
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I'm all for adding tools like you to my list. Never a shortage of entertainment.

PSN: TheHedon

I would agree on the new low. Rash likes to make waves I see.
 
The Hedon said:
And you must be a cocksucker, so what is your point.

Calling names won't get you anywhere, see? So much for a hard mature debate. You lost all credibility.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all

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Hedon your quoted article is Way out of date. the upscaling of DVD has benn out there for a very long time now I forget the update to the firmware that first included it but this article is before that since it still thinks the 360 does not come with HDMI. I do think that if you did a more recent check you will find that the PS3s upscaling is considered quite good if not excellent and most comparisons I have seen are not to other consoles but to Upscaling DVD players.
 
The Hedon said:
I'm all for adding tools like you to my list. Never a shortage of entertainment.

PSN: TheHedon

I would agree on the new low. Rash likes to make waves I see.
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Its not me insulting people mate!
 
Crighton said:
Hedon your quoted article is Way out of date. the upscaling of DVD has benn out there for a very long time now I forget the update to the firmware that first included it but this article is before that since it still thinks the 360 does not come with HDMI. I do think that if you did a more recent check you will find that the PS3s upscaling is considered quite good if not excellent and most comparisons I have seen are not to other consoles but to Upscaling DVD players.
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I have both consoles, played the same movies, upscaled through both on a 1080p TV with both running HDMI at optimal settings. My experience, as well as others, differ than your claims.

Agree to disagree I guess.
 
Crighton said:
Hedon your quoted article is Way out of date. the upscaling of DVD has benn out there for a very long time now I forget the update to the firmware that first included it but this article is before that since it still thinks the 360 does not come with HDMI. I do think that if you did a more recent check you will find that the PS3s upscaling is considered quite good if not excellent and most comparisons I have seen are not to other consoles but to Upscaling DVD players.
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SShhh, dates are irrelevant!

360 rules all ;)
 
The Hedon said:
I have both consoles, played the same movies, upscaled through both on a 1080p TV with both running HDMI at optimal settings. My experience, as well as others, differ than your claims.

Agree to disagree I guess.
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I didnt claim one way or the other about 360 quality I just said the PS3 is well liked in the upscaling dept.
 
How could this make it to 10 pages? It's all been said before, everything.

360 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a PS3 fanboy.
PS3 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a 360 fanboy.

Everyone else. Pay no attention to the fanboys (pretty much anyone that tells you one console is better than the other unless you have very specific needs) and get which has the games which you like best.
 
Psychotext said:
How could this make it to 10 pages? It's all been said before, everything.

360 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a PS3 fanboy.
PS3 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a 360 fanboy.

Everyone else. Pay no attention to the fanboys (pretty much anyone that tells you one console is better than the other unless you have very specific needs) and get which has the games which you like best.
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Fanboys are much better than non fanboys, if you'd just read about the feature set on the newest model of fanboy, you'd realize that you MORON. Fanboy is clearly the better choice, but you're just a fanboy of non-fanboys.
 
Psychotext said:
How could this make it to 10 pages? It's all been said before, everything.

360 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a PS3 fanboy.
PS3 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a 360 fanboy.

Everyone else. Pay no attention to the fanboys (pretty much anyone that tells you one console is better than the other unless you have very specific needs) and get which has the games which you like best.
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If your reffering to me, it has nothing to do with being a fanboy, upscaling between both console's can be benchmarked and proved that one in superior.

No more posts from me on this thread, the cocksucker is waving the white flag:p
 
Technoob said:
Am I the only one who thinks they both suck?
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Probably not.

Psychotext said:
How could this make it to 10 pages? It's all been said before, everything.

360 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a PS3 fanboy.
PS3 fanboys - you wont change the opinion of a 360 fanboy.

Everyone else. Pay no attention to the fanboys (pretty much anyone that tells you one console is better than the other unless you have very specific needs) and get which has the games which you like best.
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Well stated. I agree 100%. But I must leave this thread. The dumbass bows out of this thread :D
 
I was hoping this thread wouldn't turn to shit so fast, but I guess it did. I'll be enjoying games on both consoles while you guys argue over which one is "better".

BTW, if anyone wants to add me on PSN or XBL, add me.
PSN: Deify88
XBL: UltimaWeapon87 (oooold name, gonna change to Deify88)

I play Wipeout HD, NHL09, and Burnout Paradise on PS3, Halo 3 on the 360.
 
DuffMan72 said:
I was hoping this thread wouldn't turn to shit so fast, but I guess it did. I'll be enjoying games on both consoles while you guys argue over which one is "better".

BTW, if anyone wants to add me on PSN or XBL, add me.
PSN: Deify88
XBL: UltimaWeapon87 (oooold name, gonna change to Deify88)

I play Wipeout HD, NHL09, and Burnout Paradise on PS3, Halo 3 on the 360.
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You play none of the games I play :( on PS3.
 
360 has more games (quality and quantity)
PS3 has blu ray
360 is cheaper
PS3 has LittleBigPlanet
PS3 has LittleBigPlanet
PS3 has LittleBigPlanet
PS3 has LittleBigPlanet

Ugh I want to play that game. I guess we'll have to wait until sony ports it to the 360 - don't hold your breath
 
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