Godmachine
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Is this a H-IPS panel or E-IPS panel?
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Same thing.
I'd say not really. I've used both 2209wa and ea231wmi E-IPS panels and they don't look nearly as good as a 20wmgx2 H-IPS or older Apple Cinema Display or old HP IPS.
Nope. Its the same thing. I've had the Dell U2410 H-IPS and now the EA231 E-IPS.
E-IPS is not the same as regular IPS. You just think it is because you're comparing a crappy monitor (Dell U2410 wide gamut) with another crappy monitor (the ea231wmi).
Both the Dell 2209wa and NEC ea231wmi look like poop straight out of the box at default settings. After optimizing the E-IPS panel settings, they still don't look nearly as good as an old 20wmgx2, Apple Cinema Display, or HP IPS *AT DEFAULT SETTINGS* straight out of the box.
E-IPS is not the same as regular IPS. You just think it is because you're comparing a crappy monitor (Dell U2410 wide gamut) with another crappy monitor (the ea231wmi).
Both the Dell 2209wa and NEC ea231wmi look like poop straight out of the box at default settings. After optimizing the E-IPS panel settings, they still don't look nearly as good as an old 20wmgx2, Apple Cinema Display, or HP IPS *AT DEFAULT SETTINGS* straight out of the box.
I don't think there are a lot of IPS monitors with ATW Polarizers. And the main thing that is supposed to do is neutralize the sparkle effect that is the IPS Achilles heel. The monitors that do have this feature are generally VERY expensive. Since most IPS panels don't have the polarizer they share the same weakness.
However the coatings used for the panels can be quite different. The super aggressive coating on the Dell U2410 creates a 'grainy' effect that is super annoying for some users. This is why some people prefer the NEC EA231wmi even though it has an inch less viewing space and only 1080p resolution.
It's hard to tell where the HP ZR24W will turn out. I DOUBT that it will have a polarizer if it is supposed to retail for $425. I think what will determine its success is the coating chosen for the monitor. If it doesn't have an overly aggressive coating and shows no graininess, a lot of people will be flocking to this monitor imo. The ergonomics also look good from the spec sheet. I have no idea what H2-IPS means. 2nd generation H IPS?
Sounds like someone who is in denial and believes in vapor-ware. Biggest differences you detect with the naked eye are mfg related (uneven lighting from the back-light, bleeding in the edges, anti-glare coating) and whether it has an A-TW polarizer. If you made all those things equal, the technology itself, e-ips vs h-ips, would be indiscernible by the naked eye.
The main difference appears to be that it requires less power than the previous generation of IPS panels. Whether anything else will result from these changes remains to be seen..I have no idea what H2-IPS means. 2nd generation H IPS?
The Dell u2410 was on for $419 CDN yesterday... I will be pissed if this monitor sucks.
I'd say not really. I've used both 2209wa and ea231wmi E-IPS panels and they don't look nearly as good as a 20wmgx2 H-IPS or older Apple Cinema Display or old HP IPS
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Makes me think about what I'll do if my 20WMGX2 craps out. I'll have to go matte. Yikes.
Makes me think about what I'll do if my 20WMGX2 craps out. I'll have to go matte. Yikes.
A few of the smaller shops have started listing it here in Sweden (none of the "Big" shops yet) and they are most saying 2010-04-19 but we'll see how accurate this actually is Obviously there are none in storage yet but I guess this is some kind of indication of when they will be out that may or may not be accurate.
Just a link to some of the Swedies shop: http://www.prisjakt.nu/search.php?query=hp+zr24w
cheers all
Makes me think about what I'll do if my 20WMGX2 craps out. I'll have to go matte. Yikes.
Well HP lost 3 sales from me, I bought a new bike instead. Too slow.
Wow, your bike can do Eyefinity?!
That might be something you'll regret for the next couple of windows OS generations, though :/Actually, real-world technology (TM) enables fully surrounding field of view with true stereoscopic 3D. You don't even need to wear 3D glasses. I wish i could afford to go outdoors and experience this for myself.
Anyhow. WTH is with HP? Get this thing out the door already. I'm totally about to buy 3 U2410's and say F' the native sRGB.
Edit:
Alright, I've calmed down. Will wait for ZR24W >
Actually, real-world technology (TM) enables fully surrounding field of view with true stereoscopic 3D. You don't even need to wear 3D glasses. I wish i could afford to go outdoors and experience this for myself.
Anyhow. WTH is with HP? Get this thing out the door already. I'm totally about to buy 3 U2410's and say F' the native sRGB.
Actually, real-world technology (TM) enables fully surrounding field of view with true stereoscopic 3D. You don't even need to wear 3D glasses. I wish i could afford to go outdoors and experience this for myself.
I call shenanigans. You couldn't even power that with a 4 quad-core CPU system with a rack full of video cards and 64GB RAM.
Seems like there's lots of quality control issues with the U2410. Otherwise it would be the perfect choice at its size and pricepoint.