HP Omen 32" QHD Monitor - 2560x1440, 5ms, 75Hz freesync, VA panel

[Delicieuxz]

*Update

So after messing around with it for hours I have narrowed it down to the Refresh rate not sticking in the settings. After I turned on the computer or after the monitor goes to sleep, I have to manually tell the monitor to use the 75hz refresh rate in the display options. After that the Monitor works with my RTX 2070 in "AMD Freesync On" flawlessly. No jutter or skipped frames while using the pendulum demo or frameskipp website found on blurbusters.

Kind of annoying to have to manually tell the monitor to use 75hz but I guess I'll have to deal with it. Seeing how their are no affordable options for me for a new 32 inch monitor at this point.

Frame-skipping increases as the FPS goes over whatever normal clock the monitor can handle. So, if the monitor was switching from 75hz to 60hz, it should have less frame-skipping than exists at 75 hz. However, resetting the monitor at 75 hz might do something to stop frame-skipping, for all I know, but the hz being at 60 instead of 75 shouldn't be causing frame-skipping.

Thank you I will try these.

Did those drivers help anything?

 

[Delicieuxz]

I think I've found a way to get the monitor to stop frame-skipping when it starts doing it again.

Using the 3 back settings buttons on the monitor, press any of them to bring up the settings panel. Then, press the 3rd one from the top to switch the monitor's input. The screen will go black. Then, wait and either manually toggle through all three until you're back at the main PC display setting, or if you have nothing else connected to the other inputs then I think you can just wait for the monitor to cycle through them all automatically as it doesn't find anything in the other inputs, and then it returns to the main PC input setting.

My monitor hadn't been frame-skipping for a long time before today, but it was frame-skipping again today. And doing this cycling through the input modes instantly made the monitor stop frame-skipping for me just now. The next time the monitor starts frame-skipping, I'll try this again.

 

[xdevel2000]

Hello, I recently bought the HP Omen 32 of this thread, and I noticed that when play some games, especially 2D (but sometimes also in 3D), in the movement of the images I detect a change in brightness: it seems that some elements of the background become darker. Then when I stop the movement everything returns to normal. The same effect, however, I do not detect on two other monitors that I have: a HP 27o and a Benq GL2450.

I have a Radeon RX5770, the Omen 32 is a WVA+ panel type with FreeSync and 75 Hertz, while the other two monitors are simple 60 Hertz TN panel type.

P.S.
I published a little video. You can see that when I move the main character the foreground goes darker and then when I stop it the foreground goes lighter.

I hope for some help thanks a lot.

 

[Archaea]

Hello, I recently bought the HP Omen 32 of this thread, and I noticed that when play some games, especially 2D (but sometimes also in 3D), in the movement of the images I detect a change in brightness: it seems that some elements of the background become darker. Then when I stop the movement everything returns to normal. The same effect, however, I do not detect on two other monitors that I have: a HP 27o and a Benq GL2450.

I have a Radeon RX5770, the Omen 32 is a WVA+ panel type with FreeSync and 75 Hertz, while the other two monitors are simple 60 Hertz TN panel type.

P.S.
I published a little video. You can see that when I move the main character the foreground goes darker and then when I stop it the foreground goes lighter.

I hope for some help thanks a lot.

That’s a VA panel type artifact and is normal and expected on black to white or white to black transitions.

As you may have read each panel type has a pretty clear weakness relative to the other panel types.
Pick your poison...

Weaknesses
TN - poor viewing angles and poor color gradients/color accuracy
VA - poor black to white transitions
IPS - IPS backlight glow

Strengths
TN - fast refresh and pixel transition, inexpensive
VA - good middle ground of strengths between TN and IPS
IPS - best color accuracy

Timestamp 16:45 discussing this with VA panel on Acer 35” gaming monitor and 33:05 for this Omen 32” VA panel demonstration.

 

[IdiotInCharge]

OLED: lack of full brightness, burn in...

 

[xdevel2000]

That’s a VA panel type artifact and is normal and expected on black to white or white to black transitions.

As you may have read each panel type has a pretty clear weakness relative to the other panel types.
Pick your poison...

Weaknesses
TN - poor viewing angles and poor color gradients/color accuracy
VA - poor black to white transitions
IPS - IPS backlight glow

Strengths
TN - fast refresh and pixel transition, inexpensive
VA - good middle ground of strengths between TN and IPS
IPS - best color accuracy

Timestamp 16:45 discussing this with VA panel on Acer 35” gaming monitor and 33:05 for this Omen 32” VA panel demonstration.

Unfortunately I had not read about this limitation of the VA panels.
At this point I don't know if I will keep the monitor or sell it! What advice can you give me?
Do you think it is a negligible defect compared to the other qualities that this monitor has anyway?
In case you know how to recommend a good quality 32" IPS monitor?
Thank you for your support.

 

[Bankie]

Unfortunately I had not read about this limitation of the VA panels.
At this point I don't know if I will keep the monitor or sell it! What advice can you give me?
Do you think it is a negligible defect compared to the other qualities that this monitor has anyway?
In case you know how to recommend a good quality 32" IPS monitor?
Thank you for your support.

Monitors are almost entirely subjective so keeping it or returning it is up to you. But if the black-white transitions bother you that badly I say return/sell it and start looking at decent TN or IPS monitors. Some people are just more sensitive to the weaknesses of each panel type than to others; you have to figure out which one works best for your eyes.

 

[Archaea]

Unfortunately I had not read about this limitation of the VA panels.
At this point I don't know if I will keep the monitor or sell it! What advice can you give me?
Do you think it is a negligible defect compared to the other qualities that this monitor has anyway?
In case you know how to recommend a good quality 32" IPS monitor?
Thank you for your support.

I can’t advise you on that. You’d just have to sit in front of the technology and see what you like. You said you had TN panels and were happy with them. That’s my least favorite of the three technologies. Colors are the least appealing on TN (hard to see a difference between some shades of yellow, gray, and white, and off angle viewing is the worst. (Turns blueish/purplish if not directly in front of the monitor). But that’s my preference and eyesight.

My favorite is IPS, because I favor the best, most accurate colors, but IPS backlight glow is a real detriment in dark/night games for some. I have no big problem with VA panels. Don’t make a hasty decision on the Omen, use it for a while, try different games. Most games won’t highlight that particular fault like that game does. I had three Omens at one point and liked them quite a bit.

If you are still in your return period this LG is likely a better monitor than the Omen (though I haven’t seen the LG in person) — on sale for $300

https://www.costco.com/LG-32GK850F-B-32"-Class-QHD-HDR-FreeSync-Monitor.product.100454130.html

This newer LG model is IPS, 144hz, HDR, has LFC all the way down to 1hz, and works with Freesync 2 and Gsync.
https://www.techspot.com/article/1810-lg-freesync-and-nvidia-geforce/

 

[SeaWulf]

Is this monitor still any good at the $300 price point? Looking for something I can use for writing software primarily with maybe an evening or two of overwatch a month.

 

[LiquidX]

Is this monitor still any good at the $300 price point? Looking for something I can use for writing software primarily with maybe an evening or two of overwatch a month.

You can probably do way better these days. Are you looking for the same size or you can do with a 27 inch?

 

[MacLeod]

Is this monitor still any good at the $300 price point? Looking for something I can use for writing software primarily with maybe an evening or two of overwatch a month.

For $300 I think it's definitely worth it. I bought the 32Q for $300 around 6 months ago and love it. As far as I can tell they're the same panel just the Omen runs at 75Hz compared to the 60 of the 32Q (but it has the option to run at 70 Hz in nividia control panel and runs fine).

The image quality is very good, contrast and black levels are excellent and FreeSync makes games look really smooth. For $300, the Omen would be a whole lot of monitor for a very good price. $400 and up is about the point you'd be finding better 32" options. If you are a hard-core gamer and need the fastest response times possible then look elsewhere but for casual gaming or slower paced games, the Omen is a great choice at 3 bills.

 

[EMdubs]

If you have sensitive eyes, then I would say no way. It’s not flicker free and hurt my eyes quite a bit.

 

[DooLocsta]

Get the LG-GK650F which goes on sale all the time at Microcenter around for $300. Works great and you get 144hz that will work with Gsync as well.

 

[Krenum]

Get the LG-GK650F which goes on sale all the time at Microcenter around for $300. Works great and you get 144hz that will work with Gsync as well.

I upgraded to this exact monitor from the HP Omen, its awesome. And can confirm it to work with Gsync under compatibility mode.

 

[SeaWulf]

You can probably do way better these days. Are you looking for the same size or you can do with a 27 inch?

For $300 I think it's definitely worth it. I bought the 32Q for $300 around 6 months ago and love it. As far as I can tell they're the same panel just the Omen runs at 75Hz compared to the 60 of the 32Q (but it has the option to run at 70 Hz in nividia control panel and runs fine).

The image quality is very good, contrast and black levels are excellent and FreeSync makes games look really smooth. For $300, the Omen would be a whole lot of monitor for a very good price. $400 and up is about the point you'd be finding better 32" options. If you are a hard-core gamer and need the fastest response times possible then look elsewhere but for casual gaming or slower paced games, the Omen is a great choice at 3 bills.

If you have sensitive eyes, then I would say no way. It’s not flicker free and hurt my eyes quite a bit.

Get the LG-GK650F which goes on sale all the time at Microcenter around for $300. Works great and you get 144hz that will work with Gsync as well.

I upgraded to this exact monitor from the HP Omen, its awesome. And can confirm it to work with Gsync under compatibility mode.

Thanks for the feedback, y'all. I would say my eyes are a little sensitive which is part of why I am wanting to upgrade from a 7(?) year old AOC 22" LCD.

It looks like that LG monitor is on sale for $299.99 at MC right now so I'll go check it out in person and see what I think

 

[Decko87]

Has anyone using the LG-GK650F noticed any worse image quality? The reviews I watched on it claims it covers 94% SRGB, the omen cover 100 percent. Also the contrast ratio of the omen is actually a bit higher than the LG. I wouldn't mind having 144hz, but I also watch a lot of TV and movies on monitor, and I'd rather not sell my omen for worse image quality and faster response times.

 

[Krenum]

Has anyone using the LG-GK650F noticed any worse image quality? The reviews I watched on it claims it covers 94% SRGB, the omen cover 100 percent. Also the contrast ratio of the omen is actually a bit higher than the LG. I wouldn't mind having 144hz, but I also watch a lot of TV and movies on monitor, and I'd rather not sell my omen for worse image quality and faster response times.

I haven't, I watch plenty of things on mine. For a VA panel it has pretty good blacks once you get it adjusted. I can tell you that I don't get the banding on the LG that I got with the Omen.

 

[MacLeod]

Has anyone using the LG-GK650F noticed any worse image quality? The reviews I watched on it claims it covers 94% SRGB, the omen cover 100 percent. Also the contrast ratio of the omen is actually a bit higher than the LG. I wouldn't mind having 144hz, but I also watch a lot of TV and movies on monitor, and I'd rather not sell my omen for worse image quality and faster response times.

The tested, real world contrast ratio of the LG is between 2700-2900:1 which is among the best available. And in reviews it hits 100% SRGB coverage.

I can't find any reviews of the Omen that test its SRGB and contrast ratios but if be surprised if they're actually 3000:1 and 100%. The manufacturer claims usually fall short of what they do real world. The LG's real world, tested performance nearly matches the Omen's advertised/marketing numbers so it's a safe bet it would likely beat the Omen in testing.

Add to that 144 Hz and an almost undoubtedly faster panel and I'd say the LG is a no brainer for the same or similar money. And I'm a pretty big fan of the Omen and actually own its little brother.

 

[Decko87]

Thanks for the heads up, if I can sell the omen at a reasonable price I may make the switch. Wouldn't mind having the extra frames get displayed. I'm about to pick up a Ryzen 1600 and an Asus strix 370 for 110 bucks at microcenter. So I'm doing some upgrading on the cheap. Might nab a 5700 aftermarket at some point.

 

[Fritzz]

FWIW - You can get the LG-32GK650F on Microcenter's web store for the same $299. You just have to pay shipping. Realistically that's appears to be a pretty damn good deal. I have the LG 32GK850G, which is the gsync model and I really like it. I had the Omen for a bit, but the frame skipping on NVIDIA cards wasn't something I could get past. Not sure how the LG-32GK650F works with gsync, it's not on their list of compatible displays, but if it works well enough I could have got 2 for the price I paid for the 850G.

 

[DooLocsta]

FWIW - You can get the LG-32GK650F on Microcenter's web store for the same $299. You just have to pay shipping. Realistically that's appears to be a pretty damn good deal. I have the LG 32GK850F, which is the gsync model and I really like it. I had the Omen for a bit, but the frame skipping on NVIDIA cards wasn't something I could get past. Not sure how the LG-32GK650F works with gsync, it's not on their list of compatible displays, but if it works well enough I could have got 2 for the price I paid for the 850F.

*850G but the 650F and 850F now work great with nVidia cards.

 

[Fritzz]

*850G but the 650F and 850F now work great with nVidia cards.

Yeah my bad, I have the 850G. From what I am seeing there is no such thing as an 850F. Only the 850G and the 650F.

I amended my post.

 

[DooLocsta]

Yeah my bad, I have the 850G. From what I am seeing there is no such thing as an 850F. Only the 850G and the 650F.

I amended my post.

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32GK850F-B-gaming-monitor

Freesync 2 and a wider color gamut. I am assuming that is the difference between this and the 650.

 

[Delicieuxz]

To add to this discovery:

I think I've found a way to get the monitor to stop frame-skipping when it starts doing it again.

Using the 3 back settings buttons on the monitor, press any of them to bring up the settings panel. Then, press the 3rd one from the top to switch the monitor's input. The screen will go black. Then, wait and either manually toggle through all three until you're back at the main PC display setting, or if you have nothing else connected to the other inputs then I think you can just wait for the monitor to cycle through them all automatically as it doesn't find anything in the other inputs, and then it returns to the main PC input setting.

My monitor hadn't been frame-skipping for a long time before today, but it was frame-skipping again today. And doing this cycling through the input modes instantly made the monitor stop frame-skipping for me just now. The next time the monitor starts frame-skipping, I'll try this again.

I've figured out what causes the Omen 32, or at least my Omen 32, to frame-skip.

The monitor start frame-skipping ever time that it goes to sleep on its own, such as when it automatically turns off as according to however it's set to in Display Settings -> Power & Sleep.

I can manually power the monitor off and back on and it doesn't frame-skip. It's only when it goes to sleep on its own that it starts frame-skipping.

And when it starts frame-skipping, going through the above process of using the on-screen display settings to let the monitor cycle through its inputs and back to the active one stops the frame-skipping again.


So long as I don't let the monitor automatically put itself to sleep, it won't start frame-skipping.



Also, even if the Power & Sleep settings aren't set to put the monitor to sleep, but only to turn the monitor off, after around 10 seconds of being automatically turned-off, the monitor puts itself to sleep anyway, and then it frame-skips.

So, the best solution I see is to just use a classic screen-saver instead of setting a timer for the monitor to be turned off or put to sleep. I'll still keep a turn-off setting set for some longer period of time in case I forget to turn the monitor off while being away from my computer a long time. But in the case that it actually turns itself off, I'll have to cycle through the display inputs again.

 

[Delicieuxz]

**** How to successfully overclock the Omen 32 ****


I'm now running my Omen 32 at 90 hz without frame-skipping and without the "out of range - monitor going to sleep" message.

In my previous post I point out the way to use the Omen 32 at 75 hz with an Nvidia GPU and without frame-skipping. It works perfectly with Nvidia's G-sync-compatible driver setting for enabled adaptive-sync.

In this post, I'll describe how to do that while also overclocking the Omen 32 to 90 hz, and possibly even up to 105 hz or more without getting the 'out of range - putting the display to sleep' message.



After figuring out what causes the frame-skipping and how to stop and prevent it, I though of trying overclocking the monitor again. Overclocking it to 76 hz makes the display appear messed-up, while 77 hz - around 84 hz makes the screen appear just black. But it seemed that I could overclock it between 85 hz and 105 hz (and possibly higher, but I haven't thoroughly tested that) and it will display generally normally, though I kind of think there's some faint interlacing effect appearing when at around 92 - 105 hz. Unfortunately, further testing would sometimes give me a black screen at most other hz settings. However, 90 hz has worked every time I've tested it, even when everything else was returning a black screen. So, I think it's a safe hz.

The first time that I switched the hz from 75 to 90 I didn't get any on-screen message about the display being "out of range" and being put to sleep in 30 seconds, but after further testing I started to get that message with every above-75 hz custom resolution that I tried. Then I set it to 75 hz, which is the monitor's advertised frequency, and after that I immediately set it to 60 hz, and from there I set it to 90 hz, and the "out of range" message didn't appear. After that, I tried switching it back and forth directly between 90 and 75 hz and 90 and 60 hz, and I didn't get the "out of range" message again.

I also tried powering off the monitor and powering it back on, and when I do that at 90 hz, the "out of range" message appears within seconds of it powering back on. However, I then went through the process of setting the monitor to 75 hz, then setting it to 60 hz, and then back to 90 hz, and the "out of range" message again didn't appear and the monitor remained stable at 90 hz. I have tested this several times, and it has worked each time.

So, when the "out of range" message appears, just switch the display settings to 75 hz -> 60 hz -> 90 hz (or whatever your custom hz is) and the message will be gone until the next time you power off and power back on your monitor.



While gaming, going from 75 hz to 90 hz gives me an enjoyable extra silky smoothness to the displayed picture. Despite the inconvenience of the process of going through 75 hz, then 60 hz, then back to 90 hz in the Nvidia panel resolution settings, I think that the benefit for gaming far outweighs the inconvenience. It's something I might do when I know I'm going to spend some time gaming, or I could leave the monitor at 90 hz when I power it off and just accept the 30 second process of cycling through 75 hz -> 60 hz -> 90 hz each time I power on my monitor, which might be just once a day.


Demonstration of successful overclock with no frame-skipping: