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help me with my PPD problem

Crosshairs

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OK, so I have been running a 2600K that gets about 28-30K PPD....I got rid of my 5870's and added a 580...its putting out 16K PPD....BUT..its dropped my 2600K down to 18K PPD...WTF.....so I only gained about 5-6K....what am I doing wrong?

after being offline for 3 days and losing production waiting on the card, I'm pretty pissed with the outcome....:mad:

I'm running the V2 tracker...

 
For reference, I'm running a 2600K at 4.8Ghz and an overclocked GTX460. I'm using the Tracker program for this rig too. Also, using regular -smp flag (not -smp 7). On a 6900 unit, the CPU has a TPF of 27:38 for 42,271K PPD and the GTX460 is putting out about 12K PPD.

Did you shut the rig down for a while to change cards while the CPU was in the middle of a unit? This will add to the overall TPF. Is the CPU currently crunching on a -bigadv unit?
 
Wyxe , the rig was actually down for 3 days..I had to ship my 5870's on Saturday and I didn't get the 580 until Tuesday......but, Its been back up since last night.......
I don't have the -bigadv checked, so no, its not running one of those....should I be running those?
I guess the 580 is eating up CPU cycles......any idea how to minimize that?
The 2600K is running at 4.5.....

if my math is correct, your seeing 60K PPD from your rig?
 
-bigadv, yes
Any rig with 8 threads and of reasonable speed can do them.

Time down, the calc adds the time to adjust for the lost bonus. So only use #s from a new WU.
 
pjkenned said:
I am guessing the intent of the rig is gaming not folding correct?
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Its both....but for the last few months, its only been folding.......and its on 24/7...


Kendrak said:
-bigadv, yes
Any rig with 8 threads and of reasonable speed can do them.

Time down, the calc adds the time to adjust for the lost bonus. So only use #s from a new WU.
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its been running since 8PM last night.....its finished quite a few WU's

I can shut the GPU down and within 1 Hr the PPD numbers are back to normal......if they don't improve, I'm just gonna pull the plug on the 580..no sense in running it for a lousy 5K PPD
 
Switch on the -bigadv.

Should take ya about 2 days to finish a WU.
 
Kendrak said:
Switch on the -bigadv.

Should take ya about 2 days to finish a WU.
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do you recommend I leave the 580 running also.....whats the approximate points for a -bigadv.
 
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If you are using that rig exclusively for folding, I would swap to a G34 platform IMO. 2-3x the ppd, probably about 1/2 the power consumption and if you probably break even after selling the mobo/ cooler/ CPU/ video card, or come darn close to it. That GTX580 is a lot of expensive, power consuming hardware that isn't doing much ppd wise.
 
pjkenned said:
If you are using that rig exclusively for folding, I would swap to a G34 platform IMO. 2-3x the ppd, probably about 1/2 the power consumption and if you probably break even after selling the mobo/ cooler/ CPU/ video card, or come darn close to it. That GTX580 is a lot of expensive, power consuming hardware that isn't doing much ppd wise.
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I'm not that into it to buy new hardware just for folding.....Ive been folding for this team since April 2005 and I'm only in 109th place..


Hell, I can remember when a top 100 spot was 1000 PPD..I run what I can, so I'm trying to maximize it wherever possible.

slow and steady wont win this race, but I do whatever I can..:)
 
Crosshairs said:
I'm not that into it to buy new hardware just for folding.....Ive been folding for this team since April 2005 and I'm only in 109th place..


Hell, I can remember when a top 100 spot was 1000 PPD..I run what I can, so I'm trying to maximize it wherever possible.

slow and steady wont win this race, but I do whatever I can..:)
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:) I just look at it like I have a 48 core home file server (LSI SAS2008 onboard + NICs + no overclocking)!
 
Crosshairs said:
do you recommend I leave the 580 running also.....whats the approximate points for a -bigadv.
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Yes, you want to run -bigadv for your rig. At 4.5Ghz, you should be able to finish them in plenty of time, even when you pause it to game once in a while. You will notice a big gain in PPD running -bigadv on your CPU. The 580 will add more too, but you have to consider the extra heat and power use. You can try just folding with the CPU for at least 3 frames or so what kind of PPD you are getting without the 580.

For my i7 930 rig, the CPU takes about a 5K PPD hit from running the GTX460, but the GTX460 puts out 12K PPD, for a net 7K PPD increased profit.

If you run -bigadv and your GTX580, you should get at least 50K PPD out of your rig.
 
You'll want to set the "-smp 7" flag on your CPU client. That way it will leave one CPU thread free to devote to pushing FAH on the gpu. Otherwise the gpu holds the CPU client hostage, which is what is leading to your low CPU PPD.
 
jebo_4jc said:
You'll want to set the "-smp 7" flag on your CPU client. That way it will leave one CPU thread free to devote to pushing FAH on the gpu. Otherwise the gpu holds the CPU client hostage, which is what is leading to your low CPU PPD.
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-smp 7 is a no-no with some of the future WU. They don't like prime numbers.
 
I dont know man, his PPD with -big adv will be similar to what he gets now, add in the GPU client, and pauses for gaming.....that will drop it especially at 4.5 GHz


Wyxe said:
Yes, you want to run -bigadv for your rig. At 4.5Ghz, you should be able to finish them in plenty of time, even when you pause it to game once in a while. You will notice a big gain in PPD running -bigadv on your CPU. The 580 will add more too, but you have to consider the extra heat and power use. You can try just folding with the CPU for at least 3 frames or so what kind of PPD you are getting without the 580.

For my i7 930 rig, the CPU takes about a 5K PPD hit from running the GTX460, but the GTX460 puts out 12K PPD, for a net 7K PPD increased profit.

If you run -bigadv and your GTX580, you should get at least 50K PPD out of your rig.
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W.Feather said:
I dont know man, his PPD with -big adv will be similar to what he gets now, add in the GPU client, and pauses for gaming.....that will drop it especially at 4.5 GHz
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I noticed later that his PPD was between 40K & 50K PPD just crunching on SMPs. I guess everyone needs to find their "sweet spot".

Fold on!
 
40-50k on SMP @4.5 on windows? unlikely, 4.7 on linux, in Bigadv nets me 55-58k max, max at 40k or so on linux @ 4.7 with SMP

;)
 
he said it's not a dedicated folding box, so going linux may not be an option. Like my case.
 
check out musky's ubuntu desktop installation guide

dookey sucks ;)
 
musky's guide is one slick peice of work.. I had about a kindergarten level of Linux knowledge and my SR-2 has been rollin' on linux now for months with nothing more than a restart or two :cool:
 
Well, I guess we'll find out if Musky's guide is Linux idiot proof or not. Can I install it on an SSD? And apologies to the OP for getting a little off topic.
 
Wyxe said:
Well, I guess we'll find out if Musky's guide is Linux idiot proof or not. Can I install it on an SSD? And apologies to the OP for getting a little off topic.
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I assure you it is linux noob proof. You'll be up and folding in linux in no time at all!!
 
Wyxe said:
Well, I guess we'll find out if Musky's guide is Linux idiot proof or not. Can I install it on an SSD? And apologies to the OP for getting a little off topic.
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I run SSDs in all of my folding boxen and all but 1 (my main workstation) use Ubuntu.
 
Hmm, maybe I could use that SSD on my HTPC instead. I'm sure a 36Gb raptor is big enough for a Linux install and F@H.
 
My main rig runs smp8 bigadv at 4.6ghz with 2 gtx 470's folding in the winter months as well. My Tpf increases from ~26min to ~28-29 with the gpu clients active but that only drops the cpu ppd from ~45 to ~40. With both cards and the cpu folding I hit around 70k ppd from the box, it sounds like you just need to enable bigadv.
 
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