Have you pre-ordered Windows 7 yet?

Have you pre-ordered Windows 7?

  • Yes, Home Premium Edition

    Votes: 71 28.0%

  • Yes, Professional Edition

    Votes: 51 20.1%

  • No

    Votes: 132 52.0%
  • Total voters
    254
Catweazle said:
By the way, people. None of this is reason to avoid a Windows 7 Upgrade package. It's just a different workaround to the one we had last time.

With Vista we bunged a 'trial' install in place to qualify the upgrade install key.
With Windows 7 we'll just need to keep a partition clone of an activated install, and bung that on the drive first.
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Then it *is* different than how it is with XP>Vista and in your previous post you claimed it isn't. Make up your mind. And I have already seen and posted that workaround here anyway. Having to keep an activated partition clone is going to piss off a lot of people. Upgrade disk is supposed to be able to install on any PC at any time without having to jump through hoops. Having to keep an activated image file of the previous OS isn't exactly user friendly now, is it?
 
I pre-ordered the professional upgrade from futureshop, for $124.99. They had a deal on it last week but I just canceled my order today, It is only the 32bit and I want the 64bit.
I'm running 7200 right now which is good until June next year so I think I will just wait and then buy it then when I get my new computer.
 
yes. first time I've paid for a retail copy of Windows software. Either got it with built in computer, through work, or a nice free retail from Microsoft.
 
boxterduke said:
I pre-ordered the professional upgrade from futureshop, for $124.99. They had a deal on it last week but I just canceled my order today, It is only the 32bit and I want the 64bit.
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I think FS may have just screwed you over and gave you misinformation because I was told that retail version Win7 will have both 32bit and 64bit in the box and there are no separate versions. I pre-ordered from FS too and never saw anything saying it is just 32bit and am only interested in 64bit.
 
Yeah, and it cost $1200. I also pre-ordered Server 2008 R2 and Visual Studio 2010. :p

MSDN, baby!

Edit: oh god, not the upgrade argument again! I'll say it again: upgrade programs aren't a way for you to get $100 off Windows 7 by gaming the system so stop whining! :rolleyes:
 
InorganicMatter said:
Edit: oh god, not the upgrade argument again! I'll say it again: upgrade programs aren't a way for you to get $100 off Windows 7 by gaming the system so stop whining! :rolleyes:
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Hence the Technet deal is so great, full retail copies (hopefully early) and no having to deal with upgrades.
 
I did, then I canceled it when MS decided to entirely fuck over legitimate users. I'll get around to the OEM version eventually but it won't be right away.
 
wooo just realized you can use windows 2k pro for the previous install. Finally I'll be able to put that all but dead serial to use!
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
What happens if you get a new computer, and you restore said image, and it asks you to re-activate? Then you're hosed. At least with Vista you could do a clean install on a brand new machine with the workaround.
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IF it came to that then would it really be such a big deal to reinstall the qualifying product on the new rig in preparedness, first time you bunged an OS on it? I'd contend that it's not. I also know damned well that all the doom and gloom fear about previous install key codes stopping working is a complete pile of horseshit! The only mechanism Microsoft have in place which could stop your install key code from working forever after is the explicit 'exclude' list which gets checked against during Validation. Even if the use of an upgrade install key causes the qualifying install key to be reset to 'zero' activations left, that's just a temporary situation which exists only until the activation counter is next reset, will only impact on automatic activation attempts, and can be overcome by using manual telephone activation.



BUT......

guppy said:
rah, rah, rah...
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I've done a bit of reading here since returning from illness and hospitalisation recently, and noticed that there's a fair bit of this 'doom and gloom' wailing going on. and that you're about the loudest of the doom and gloom protagonists keeping it going.


Let me state it unequivocally:

THIS IS A LOAD OF HORSESHIT! IT AIN'T HAPPENING! IT'S A PILE OF FUD BASED UPON AN EMAIL MESSAGE SENT BY SOME UPSTART JERK PROCLAIMING HIMSELF AS BELONGING TO 'MICROSOFT'!


Got that? This is about the worst pile of FUD I've seen in a long time. It's possible, but it's improbable to the nth degree! Why on Earth would Microsoft issue an upgrade product with included mechanisms which rendered the thing useless after the first usage of the bloody thing. Do you people REALLY think that they're so stupid? I don't. I instead think that the people falling victim to the ponderings are the ones with intellectual problems!


That email message, from 'ChrisP' of Microsoft, was sent to Paul Thurrot and mentioned on his website. Now, behind me (and maybe Joe Average) Paul is about the smartest/most astute bloke in the entire internetties regarding such considerations, and I'm in complete agreement with his assessment of that email message:

"I'll believe it when I see it!"



Mixrosoft won't fuck too far with the Retail Upgrade provisions because, within the overall gamut of 'standalone' Windows sales Retail Upgrade (particularly of the 'home' versions) is almost the entirety of sales!

The overwhelming majority of windows licenses ever obtained are obtained either as pre-installations on prebuilts or as volume licensing contracts.

The overwhelming majority of Windows license replacements are obtained along with machine replacements, not as standalone purchases.

Within all the various forms of standalone Windows license sales (versions, OEM system builder package v Retail package etc etc) the overwhelming majority of all sales are the Retail Upgrade 'Home' version packages. So much so that it outsells all the rest put together!


Microsoft knows damned well that a proportion of people buying it are doing so to get a license more cheaply. Do you people really, seriously think that they care? Get real! You won't find them ever publically uttering anything but 'party line spin', but in reality they'd far prefer to see people buying and using a retail upgrade package than pirating and paying fuck-all! They ain't about to go 'destroying' that upgrade package, because it's their standalone profitability!


The full implications of the doom and gloom FUD-spreading going on about this would effectively have the Upgrade package product as a 'one use only' item for a helluva lot of people, and that just plain ain't gonna happen. It's nonsensical to think that it would.




Biggest trouble here started back in the XP era, with the explosive rise of the techie blogosphere and forum world. Tech talk turned into celebrity-style gossipings, and the mainstream IT media fell into tune with that. Sensationalism in 'reporting' became the norm, and both accuracy of information and commonsense/responsibility in opinion suffered. By the time Vista came along we saw a damned good product damned near destroyed by the gossipings and misinformations. This time around nobody can find much in the product to scandal-monger about, so it's sideline intrigues being manufactured by the musings.



One thing remains true throughout it all, though.

Just as it always has been, a Retail Upgrade package is a more sensible purchase decision than a standalone OEM system Builder pack! Why? Because it's a transferrable license. Both practically and legally!
 
I don't know what he said because after the first line only I could see it was going to be a waste of my time reading the rest.
 
guppy said:
..after the first line only I could see it was going to be a waste of my time reading the rest.
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Pleased you didn't bother because posts like that aren't aimed at people like you! Ultimately, it doesn't really matter if people prone to spouting nonsensical ponderings continue on doing so or not. Instead, it matters that reasonable and responsible information is made available to counter those ponderings, for the benefit of others reading who are genuinely seeking to be advised and informed.

:D
 
I missed out on the pre-order deal, whats the cheapest way I can get it?

I was thinking just buying vista OEM from newegg with a free windows 7 upgrade.
 
All this and we still do not actually know if an activated install is really going to be required for Win 7 upgrade. I might as well pull, "it is going have exactly the same behavior as Vista upgrade", out of my ass. It would be no less credible than the rumor we have now.
 
GORANKAR said:
All this and we still do not actually know if an activated install is really going to be required for Win 7 upgrade.
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What we DO have though, GORANKAR, when we cut down through all the musings to get to the actual source of the crap, is the understanding that the ONLY place such a claim has come from is one dude from inside an organisation (rather than a formal announcement from that organisation) making a statement in the exact same way we've previously seen misinformation come out and fuel rumour, for the releases of Vista and of XP before it.

So, ultimately, we have no real reason to think that it WILL require such a thing. All we have is a comment from some dropkick who's probably big-noting about stuff he doesn't properly understand. History has shown us that happening pre-release on numerous occasions in the past, It pretty much always comes from some juniorish insider feeling important and making comment, whilst misunderstanding the company 'spin' for actual reality.
 
GORANKAR said:
All this and we still do not actually know if an activated install is really going to be required for Win 7 upgrade. I might as well pull, "it is going have exactly the same behavior as Vista upgrade", out of my ass. It would be no less credible than the rumor we have now.
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Exactly. And this is why I ignored da weazle's post. He has no more credibility than MaximumPC's article. He's talking out of his rear just like they are.
 
Any way, I did not cancel my pre orders, and even if this rumor is true, which my own common sense forces me to doubt given the lack of any really credible source, I will be fine. I will be updating two legit machines and know how to use Acronis. Two Home Premium licenses for $100 is still not a bad deal even if this rumor holds true.
 
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