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hardware pet peeve.

Originally posted by fugu
oh, and my #1 pet peeve is when someone tries to show me something on the screen and TOUCHES MY MONITOR!!!!

i really hate that, i mean at least touch it with the back of your fingernail if you're going to touch it, but don't leave marks all over the screen....

omg i didn't know if i was going to spontaneously combust or rip a girls hand off for this. The interaction went something like this:

Me: Check this out.

Her: hey cool, but what about XYZ? (touching XYZ on the screen)

Me: I don't know, but please don't touch my laptop screen.

her: (touching screen again) why?

me: I'd prefer it if you didn't

her: (touching screen a THIRD F'ING TIME AND DRAGING HER FINGER ALL OVER IT) but it makes cool colors and doesn't hurt it.

me: (silently praying the color swirls on my LAPTOP fade away...they did)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

My only other one is the hardcore increase in heat output these days. . .I remember how crazy we thought it was to put a FAN on a P90 :p Sheesh, Intel even sent us some after we had some stablity problems. Now I seriously don't need a space heater in my room these days. . . .and sumer is coming. ugh.
 
I'm getting tired of people that come to Lan parties with computers that wont boot, get on the network, or play games. I'm the tech-ho of our lan group so I usually spend the first hour or two that other people are gaming going around fixing peoples comps so they're not just wasting space and a power outlet. Grrr.

Also people that hand out your name to fix stuff. I swear half the calls I get on my cell phone are like "Hi, my name is Suzy and I heard you can fix my computer! Can you come by tonight?" ... I'll explain to them that I have a full time job and am also a full time student, my extra time is in very short supply, right before they guilt me into coming and doing it anyway. Nothing beats driving around B.F. Nowhere in the middle of the night looking for some house occupied by people you've never met so you can try to ressurect their e-machine. More Grrr.
 
resurect eh? more like salvage

i just hate it when people buy and amazing video card and have a p1 800 with 64 mb of ram and a 9800xt, and go, why won't it run fast?

or when people think they know everything but when i talk to them, they are like whats that? then i have to explain what ram is or some gay shit like that.

its funny tho when i call it a mobo and people are like, wtf is that?
 
what do you mean i have a p100 and 32megs and have a 9800xt

i can play cs:)

how do people with 9800xt get such high scores in 3d mark 2001?

i only get like 300????
 
that people think that a new video card will make there games run smother when they have like 128mb of ram

also I hate people that think that there premod case is better than mine, and people that buy that fugly (imo) cheiftech/antec server case that everyone and there mom has, and call it a modded'
 
Originally posted by accidentalsuccess
omg i didn't know if i was going to spontaneously combust or rip a girls hand off for this. The interaction went something like this:

Me: Check this out.

Her: hey cool, but what about XYZ? (touching XYZ on the screen)

Me: I don't know, but please don't touch my laptop screen.

her: (touching screen again) why?

me: I'd prefer it if you didn't

her: (touching screen a THIRD F'ING TIME AND DRAGING HER FINGER ALL OVER IT) but it makes cool colors and doesn't hurt it.

me: (silently praying the color swirls on my LAPTOP fade away...they did)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

My only other one is the hardcore increase in heat output these days. . .I remember how crazy we thought it was to put a FAN on a P90 :p Sheesh, Intel even sent us some after we had some stablity problems. Now I seriously don't need a space heater in my room these days. . . .and sumer is coming. ugh.


dude you dont "silently pray" you say "it does hurt it, and if you do it again, im going to break your finger"
 
Floppy drives.

I dont think ive ever gotten one to work right the first time. I seem to always miss a pin or two, get something backwards on it.. or the floppy I put in there just plain doesnt work. I seem to have compatibility problems with them between one pc to another. Or the media just goes bad randomly. Floppy's suck.
 
Originally posted by Filter
here is a classic example of a pet peeve

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=750561

OMG BIOS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VIDEO CARD YOU GUYS ARE WRONG AND ILL SPEND MORE ENERGY TRYING TO MAKE INVALID POINTS THAT I CANT BACK UP RATHER THAN JUST DOING IT


thats another one of my pet peeves, people who you go out of your way to help and then tell YOU that youre wrong. yeh buddy, if youre right, why do you need help?
 
Originally posted by pistola
I didn't mean "frying" in the literal sense. I meant killing the proc.


ok then. you cant kill your proc from OCing, unless you a) mount the heatsink wrong/dont plug in the fan/other assorted errors or b) set an intels voltage too high; strange enough AMD's just wont post with too high voltage but it wont kill them
 
Originally posted by Kaizer
Floppy drives.

I dont think ive ever gotten one to work right the first time. I seem to always miss a pin or two, get something backwards on it.. or the floppy I put in there just plain doesnt work. I seem to have compatibility problems with them between one pc to another. Or the media just goes bad randomly. Floppy's suck.

I've not used floppies since 1997. :D
 
Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham
I've not used floppies since 1997. :D

I haven't used them since Apple stopped using them. Can't recall what year that was :).

I'm the fellow who made the thread titled 'how many don't use floppies?' where people kept implying (or directly stating that) those of us who don't use floppies were just 'trying to act cool' :).

Erik
 
man this thread kicks ass.

I hate it when a customer comes in, asking questions about buying a computer and refer to the entire case as "the hard drive" or "the cpu". then they go on thinking they know more about computers than i do. the second tip off that they dont, is when they think select a computer strictly on size of the "hard drive" and when they think the 160GB computer is faster than the 80GB computer.
 
Originally posted by Filter
still trying to break my GF of the finger on the screen thing.

God yes. I hate it when my fiance does that.

The other thing I hate is people that think they know everything about PC's even though they don't know what Ram is. As soon as they open their mouth you just want to slap that shit out of them. I know I do not know everything and the things I don't know I try to learn to better myself. But some people really need a good kick in the nuts. :D
 
Originally posted by Dem
I haven't used them since Apple stopped using them. Can't recall what year that was :).

They stopped shipping floppies in 1998, with the iMac and blue/white PowerMacs... but we got a real network at school in 1996 and internet at home in 1996 or '97, so I decided to stop losing hours of work to failing floppies and simply stopped using them. Another year or two later, I decided to stop losing work to MS Word failures, and started writing everything in WordPad. It's not like I ever needed anything more advanced than that anyway. :D

And the few times I've needed a "real" word app, AppleWorks usually did the job and crashed less, heheh.


I talked to someone who wanted me to send over some mp3s... I asked her what kind of internet connection and such she had, to see if it would even work. She said her computer was big, so it would probably fit... I never really knew if she meant the hard drive was big or the case itself. :p
 
the Benchmark Elitists are the ones that irrate me most. I knew a guy who did NOTHING else with his computer but run benchmarks. He spent thousands of dollars buying the latest and greatest just so he could brag about his benchmark scores.

It was so pathetic because he would fire up Quake or UT just to show off his framerates, he actually had very little experience playing the game itself.

geesh.. talk about missing the point!
 
Originally posted by maw
the Benchmark Elitists are the ones that irrate me most. I knew a guy who did NOTHING else with his computer but run benchmarks. He spent thousands of dollars buying the latest and greatest just so he could brag about his benchmark scores.

It was so pathetic because he would fire up Quake or UT just to show off his framerates, he actually had very little experience playing the game itself.

geesh.. talk about missing the point!

I agree! Those people really annoy me...
 
Mines onboard video advertised as "accelerators" My last onboard video horror story:
A guy with a via 733 processor, onboard video asks why his computer wont play games well (hes just into older games) I told him he needs an accelerator.
"Well, what should i get?" I said "Hmm if you're playing older games, i would suggest something like a radeon 9000" So i tell him my price. Mine happen to be cheaper than another place. Does that matter? No, he pays the higher price. But guess what? He brings it back to me anyways.

Over the phone he says "So how do i install this thing?" (as though after the previous display im going to be his tech support, he had come in previously getting free information and basically using me heh) My reply was "Usually with video cards theres adequete instruction on installing them. You may want to read the manual" So...2 days later he brings it. I open the case to install it And he has no AGP slot. I said "Sir this wont work, you have no AGP slot" He whips out the manual and starts arguing with me telling me that the AGP card can go into either slot according to the picture in the manual.

Ugh...
 
Yeah, there's no fun like convincing people that no, square pegs don't go in round holes, even if there's some detail in some documentation that might be constructed to say they do.

I mean, you can see that it won't work, but the facts are nowhere near as interesting as whatever strange ideas they've decided are true.
One thing is holding on to your meanings, but to continue in face of cold, hard, facts is... a bit much.
 
Originally posted by Wixard
Mines onboard video advertised as "accelerators" My last onboard video horror story:
A guy with a via 733 processor, onboard video asks why his computer wont play games well (hes just into older games) I told him he needs an accelerator.
"Well, what should i get?" I said "Hmm if you're playing older games, i would suggest something like a radeon 9000" So i tell him my price. Mine happen to be cheaper than another place. Does that matter? No, he pays the higher price. But guess what? He brings it back to me anyways.

Over the phone he says "So how do i install this thing?" (as though after the previous display im going to be his tech support, he had come in previously getting free information and basically using me heh) My reply was "Usually with video cards theres adequete instruction on installing them. You may want to read the manual" So...2 days later he brings it. I open the case to install it And he has no AGP slot. I said "Sir this wont work, you have no AGP slot" He whips out the manual and starts arguing with me telling me that the AGP card can go into either slot according to the picture in the manual.

Ugh...

EXACTLY. Is it elitist to be pissed off when people youre trying to help try to tell YOU how to do it? Seriously when I'm doing something for someone and they argue, I just put it down and say "ok you can do it" and walk away. Unless its on a job, in which case I say "Let me do it PLEASE"
 
Originally posted by kronchev
EXACTLY. Is it elitist to be pissed off when people youre trying to help try to tell YOU how to do it? Seriously when I'm doing something for someone and they argue, I just put it down and say "ok you can do it" and walk away. Unless its on a job, in which case I say "Let me do it PLEASE"

Well i didnt yell at him or anything, because hes a customer, i just thought "ugh" heh... I told him there was nothing anyone could do, you know i was being pretty cool with him, this dude got on my nerves though.

I explained to him why it didnt work, and why it wouldnt work, and why maybe getting a new processor/motherboard may be a good option. He didnt really care though heh.
 
Originally posted by Wixard
Well i didnt yell at him or anything, because hes a customer, i just thought "ugh" heh... I told him there was nothing anyone could do, you know i was being pretty cool with him, this dude got on my nerves though.

thats a problem, i have little tolerence for idiots. im the kind of guy whod charge him to install it if he bought it from someplace else when I showed him clearly that I could get it cheaper. luckly thats never happened...
 
Originally posted by kronchev
thats a problem, i have little tolerence for idiots. im the kind of guy whod charge him to install it if he bought it from someplace else when I showed him clearly that I could get it cheaper. luckly thats never happened...

If he had he had an AGP slot i woulda charged, i mean we cant be charity all the time, or we'll be the ones needing the charity :D

I advised him to put the money into a new board and processor. Did he argue? Of course hehe. Did he get a new board and processor? No. He took it somewhere else. LOL
 
Originally posted by AchTuNG!
Took me a while a few years ago to convice a mate of mine that his duron 800 sucked ass compared to my pIII 700.

...

Eh? If you were doing a general comparison between just the CPUs at stock settings, then your friend was right to resist, as there are tradeoffs between the two:

PIII -- had SSE and more cache
Duron -- 14% faster clockspeed and cost much less cash (also, what cache there was was exclusive (meaning that the same data wasn't duplicated in different cache levels) rather than inclusive, as, IIRC, the PIII was and the P4 is)

At around that time, the Athlon was better than the PIII of the same speed, with the exception of the lack of SSE. I have both an Duron and an Athlon, and back when I swapped them through the same system at the same speed (both were unlocked), it didn't really make all THAT much of a difference.

Of course, depending on the metrics of the comparison, each can fairly be said to "suck ass" compared to the other. It all depends on what one values and to what degree.
 
Originally posted by Cardboard Hammer
Eh? If you were doing a general comparison between just the CPUs at stock settings, then your friend was right to resist, as there are tradeoffs between the two:

PIII -- had SSE and more cache
Duron -- 14% faster clockspeed and cost much less cash (also, what cache there was was exclusive (meaning that the same data wasn't duplicated in different cache levels) rather than inclusive, as, IIRC, the PIII was and the P4 is)

At around that time, the Athlon was better than the PIII of the same speed, with the exception of the lack of SSE. I have both an Duron and an Athlon, and back when I swapped them through the same system at the same speed (both were unlocked), it didn't really make all THAT much of a difference.

Of course, depending on the metrics of the comparison, each can fairly be said to "suck ass" compared to the other. It all depends on what one values and to what degree.

Is the Duron the same core as the Athlon (minus the SSE, of course)? If it is, I don't think it would be all that much slower... The Athlon (and possibly the Duron, too) are less dependant on cache than Intel processors. And yeah, different processors are good at different things.

Also, this could be interesting...
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/cpu_charts-22.html
 
Originally posted by Wixard
If he had he had an AGP slot i woulda charged, i mean we cant be charity all the time, or we'll be the ones needing the charity :D

I advised him to put the money into a new board and processor. Did he argue? Of course hehe. Did he get a new board and processor? No. He took it somewhere else. LOL

For the Charity tell them this. "Do you pay your mechnic to fix your car (labour).. Well its the same thing with computers".

I read something similar to this today at RB Computing in Ottawa.

Cheers,
 
Originally posted by Eigtball
For the Charity tell them this. "Do you pay your mechnic to fix your car (labour).. Well its the same thing with computers".

I read something similar to this today at RB Computing in Ottawa.

Cheers,

If i can help people out i do, im not out to make a million, but i am out to pay the bills.

And yea i use car analogies pretty often with customers. That was just a remark i think i heard at some point somewhere.
 
I hate 4 pin molex connectors.

They plug in so nice and easy but my obese ass can hang on to one trying to unplug and I could throw my system up into the ceiling fan and grab hold and I'd spin around the room but that damn molex connector just won't disconnect.
 
Originally posted by Eigtball
For the Charity tell them this. "Do you pay your mechnic to fix your car (labour).. Well its the same thing with computers".


At my old work we had an even gloomier sign at the front desk. "Whether the patient lives or dies, the doctor must be paid." and then something alluding to Windows being a schizophrenic heart-patient missing a kidney.

it always made me smile :D
 
Originally posted by auswipe
I hate 4 pin molex connectors.

They plug in so nice and easy but my obese ass can hang on to one trying to unplug and I could throw my system up into the ceiling fan and grab hold and I'd spin around the room but that damn molex connector just won't disconnect.


LOl
 
Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham
Is the Duron the same core as the Athlon (minus the SSE, of course)? If it is, I don't think it would be all that much slower... The Athlon (and possibly the Duron, too) are less dependant on cache than Intel processors. And yeah, different processors are good at different things.

Also, this could be interesting...
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/cpu_charts-22.html

Yes, the functional difference between the Athlon and the Duron (of that vintage) was just in the cache. Neither the Thunderbird nor Spitfire cores ever had SSE, though T-birds were eventually officially moved to 133MHz FSB, while the Spitfires never were.
 
Originally posted by auswipe
I hate 4 pin molex connectors.

They plug in so nice and easy but my obese ass can hang on to one trying to unplug and I could throw my system up into the ceiling fan and grab hold and I'd spin around the room but that damn molex connector just won't disconnect.


wow I thought it was just my CD drive. i hate those bastards
 
Originally posted by Cardboard Hammer
Yes, the functional difference between the Athlon and the Duron (of that vintage) was just in the cache. Neither the Thunderbird nor Spitfire cores ever had SSE, though T-birds were eventually officially moved to 133MHz FSB, while the Spitfires never were.


athlons most certainly have SSE, but not SSE2 (bartons have that I believe?) and A64 has SSE3
 
Durons at 1.4 i think started using the new cores, which is n athlon xp with the cache disabled.

Durons are the best bang for the buck imo by far. (40 smackers for a 1.8 proc that isnt much slower than an axp to begin with, plus they overclock like mad hamsters on crack. and to top it off its possible to enable the l2 cache making it a full athlon. )
 
Originally posted by accidentalsuccess

her: (touching screen a THIRD F'ING TIME AND DRAGING HER FINGER ALL OVER IT) but it makes cool colors and doesn't hurt it.

me: (silently praying the color swirls on my LAPTOP fade away...they did)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
that when you grab her finger and growl "It DOES hurt it, and if you TOUCH my screen once more you're buying me a brand new one."

If she touches it once more, go to dell.com, select the biggest LCD they have, and demand her credit card.
 
Originally posted by auswipe
I hate 4 pin molex connectors.

They plug in so nice and easy but my obese ass can hang on to one trying to unplug and I could throw my system up into the ceiling fan and grab hold and I'd spin around the room but that damn molex connector just won't disconnect.

And after (if) you do disconnect it, it often doesn't connect as well the next time... eventually leading to all manner of weird behavior due to lousy connections.

Must have been designed by the same people who made cars easy to assemble... once... and fuck anyone who needs to repair/replace part of it.
 
Originally posted by kronchev
athlons most certainly have SSE, but not SSE2 (bartons have that I believe?) and A64 has SSE3

Bzzzt. Wrong.

Athlon XPs have SSE (Palamino/Thoroughbred/ EDIT: and Barton/Thorton).
Athlons do not (Thunderbird and whatever they called the predecessor).
SSE2 is found in the Athlon 64, but not SSE3.
 
Originally posted by Wixard
Durons at 1.4 i think started using the new cores, which is n athlon xp with the cache disabled.

Durons are the best bang for the buck imo by far. (40 smackers for a 1.8 proc that isnt much slower than an axp to begin with, plus they overclock like mad hamsters on crack. and to top it off its possible to enable the l2 cache making it a full athlon. )

There was also another Duron core between the two: Morgan. It went from 1.1GHz (maybe as low as 1GHz, I don't know for sure whether there was overlap, as Spitfire did go up to 1GHz) to 1.3GHz and still used a 100MHz FSB. They did have SSE, as the Morgon core was based off of the Palamino core.
 
Originally posted by auswipe
I hate 4 pin molex connectors.

They plug in so nice and easy but my obese ass can hang on to one trying to unplug and I could throw my system up into the ceiling fan and grab hold and I'd spin around the room but that damn molex connector just won't disconnect.

I found out today that if you can put a really wide flathead screwdriver between the plug and the thing it plugs into, and twist, it might come loose. If, of course, the molex plug and receptacle have suitable parts sticking out.
 
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